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originally posted by: Cynic
To the UN Spin masters out there:
The science was indisputable in the 1970's when many of these same scientists, now professors, concluded there was a coming Ice Age early in the 21st century. Just look how that turned out. That the climate is changing, we can agree. But simply blindly believing that we can stop it is arrogant at best and specious at worst.
No doubt your spend happy band of social engineers are salivating at the possibility of hammering us with a Carbon Tax but please be honest about it. Your great grand children will thank you for taxing them into the Stone Age.
originally posted by: jrod
This thread is already being derailed by anti science rhetoric.
Educated people understand the reality of AGW and human induced climate change, as do uneducated people who are capable of looking at the actual science and data.
What is crazier to believe: scientists from alll over the world are in cahoots to push AGW in order to fulfill some 'liberal agenda' hyperbole OR the big fossil industry is actively trying to dismiss science and research that will hurt their profits?
Those who think AGW is a hoax, do not back their opinions with good science, instead use political rhetoric, hyperbole arguments, and resort to insults to make their point.
The science and data suggest human activity is indeed changing the climate and causing a warming effect.
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Cynic
The science was indisputable in the 1970's when many of these same scientists, now professors, concluded there was a coming Ice Age early in the 21st century.
It was in fact disputed. It's not scientists fault that media ran off the rails on it.
The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus
Thomas C. Peterson
NOAA/National Climatic Data Center, Asheville, North Carolina
William M. Connolley
British Antarctic Survey, National Environment Research Council, Cambridge, United Kingdom
Albuquerque Journal, Albuquerque, New Mexico
Climate science as we know it today did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s. The integrated enterprise embodied in the Nobel Prizewinning work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change existed then as separate threads of research pursued by isolated groups of scientists. Atmospheric chemists and modelers grappled with the measurement of changes in carbon dioxide and atmospheric gases, and the changes in climate that might result. Meanwhile, geologists and paleoclimate researchers tried to understand when Earth slipped into and out of ice ages, and why. An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.