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Originally posted by Schrödinger
Originally posted by IslandMason
Originally posted by Schrödinger
reply to post by IslandMason
You have to change your tone, if you want any form of discourse with me.
I will not "change my tone" until you do the same. You offer no proof, only wild accusation. I am a Mason, and if you're going to lie about me, I WILL defend myself. I asked you to provide evidence. If being called out and asked to prove your assertions somehow hurts your feelings, too fricking bad.
Where in your extreme fantasy, have I addressed you?
I have never tried to nor do i intend on engaging you in discourse.
You are the one that keeps addressing me!
I owe you nothing!
I have not made a single wild accusation!
I simply claimed that secret societies (and the persons inhabiting them) hold more power than the average man.
My mental state is irrelevant in this discussion.
Originally posted by Schrödinger
reply to post by wiggy
...They have indeed power, and they are using it on a daily basis all over the world. To state otherwise is either deliberately misleading or at the worst outright lying.
In Denmark, most if not all prominent figures, in business and politics are tied to different lodges. Some are not directly free-masonic in their name, but have the same esoteric teachings and symbolism.
While business and politics are probably not discussed in the lodge, it surely is elsewhere.
Originally posted by Schrödinger
Keep derailing the thread!
You are doing exactly as expected.
Ridicule any criticism, then turn the thread into a circle-jerk of back padding masons!
Originally posted by Schrödinger
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
I see your point, I however do not see your ethical prerogative.
Stating that; "someone else started" is no argument at all.
Also there is over a page of you picking it up, and continuing the derailment.
I wrote quite a paper on it, I know you read it
The masonic influence and all that
Originally posted by Schrödinger
Your point is illogical.
It is not about finding it humorous. It is simply about how you, Ksig, Network and Intrepid (pro-masonic moderator) are using bullying tactics on a forum, about secret societies, where we are to defy ignorance.
Stating that masons have no power, or to underplay the importance of power they have, is a fallacy or a lie.
Continuing to derail the thread with jokes, and aggressive bullying, internal ridiculing is only adding to my case.
Anyone can skim back and read the pages, its there for everyone to see.
Keep denying and shifting blame. It will not help.
Originally posted by Schrödinger
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
You = the homogeneous mass of Freemasons on the board of ATS.
Originally posted by Schrödinger
The free-masonic institutions have power and they use it.
Stating that this power is the same as the one the average man holds, is a lie.
I am not saying you are devil worshipers, I am not saying you are misusing this power collectevely. I am just stating that it is there.
And it is obvious that it is there. I have been in several lodges, I have several people in my network who are in lodges. They all hold positions of power, they all use their network. (Same as everyone else would do, difference being the size and magnitude of the network)edit on 10-5-2013 by Schrödinger because: grammar
Originally posted by Schrödinger
reply to post by KSigMason
Have you heard the term; "the vocal minority"?
I do not care to speculate, postulate or document on how they misuse their power.
And if you read my statement, I never said anything about misusing it.
But *your* (Read: Masons) involvement in this thread, is an obvious example of how it can be misused.
Asking someone to self-medicate because they show emotional instability is a bullying tactic, yes!
(It is also a fallacy, but you already know that)
I have acknowledged that Lexus started. I have also made the argument that it was an invalid method of reasoning.
The top members of secret societies, that I had in mind was danish people in power. (I am not from the US)
But I know of several influential and powerful foreign ones as well !
I never said anything about them being evil.
I said explicitly:
I am not saying you are devil worshipers, I am not saying you are misusing this power collectevely. I am just stating that it is there.
What I am stating; "is there", is their power.
I do not care to speculate, postulate or document on how they misuse their power.
And if you read my statement, I never said anything about misusing it.
But *your* (Read: Masons) involvement in this thread, is an obvious example of how it can be misused.
I have acknowledged that Lexus started. I have also made the argument that it was an invalid method of reasoning.
The top members of secret societies, that I had in mind was danish people in power.
I never said anything about them being evil.
I was talking in general about humans and specifically about you, network and augustus.
And I do not feel like reporting anyone.
I need to start where I live, and yes many if not most people in power here are in a secret society and they surely all have been knighted by the Queen. That is the way it is over here.
(And NO I am not saying that the US or any other international or national (except the danish that I specifically mention) secret society is being run by Danes.)
Originally posted by Panic2k11
As I said there are always benefits to do voluntary work, it can go from tax breaks, recognition, reinforcing the curriculum to several non-material personal gains.
It continues to be a type of trade that is done ultimately in self interest.
In the particular case you presented a soup kitchen, is considered a charity, the problem with charities is that there is no obligations, including being fair and consistent in treatment, and often creates (and depends on ) a relation of dependency.
Originally posted by Schrödinger
Yes Luxus made a joke, it was perhaps even funny, I don't know, I don't care.
However you surely did pick the ball up fast, and continued to play with it for over 1 page.
Originally posted by Schrödinger
Humor is subjective, and irrelevant. This is not a site for humor, this is a site for discourse.
I did exaggerate, I will give you that.
But you should know why i overreacted.
I have seen this tactics used by *you* for over 10 years on this site.
And it is really like waving a red cloth in front of me.
Combine that with the actual respect i have for you and network dude.
I just get emotionally unstable when you cross the fine line.
Because I do hold you to higher standards.