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Is the US responsible for the creation of Al Qaeda and ISIS?

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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 06:06 PM
Funny that.Myself and others here have been pointing out this fact for years, but nobody wanted to listen.Now all of a sudden it's obvious and everyone's on board.

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 06:06 PM
Its still a lot of deep dark secrets we don’t really know only suspect how long this support for fundamentalist lunacy by the US secret boys has gone on.

Some say this goes back to the US and the Muslim brotherhood who is supposed to be co-opted by the CIA.

Also it seems they did support the Mujahidin in Afghanistan just to lure the Russians into the fight

Also what has to be looked at is the sinister side of Saudi Arabia in all of this, since their Wahhabi heresy is pertinent

Though Pakistan and Afghanistan has their own version of religious lunatics in abundance.

It all probably goes back to the late Carter administration and Brzezinski who was the first US honcho to begin indoctrinating the fundamentalists into violence against then the communist.

The US then had a great interest in creating the Jihadi Frankenstein for then geo-political chicanery against Russia

The great question is relative to 911 and how they pulled that off:


Before that then was the Gulf war( 93-94) of the first Bush which incited some religious nuts but not many.

If the sinister neocons really wanted a viable enemy for the 21st century the religious lunatics that the Gulf War incited wasn’t nearly enough.

Remember what they were pissed off about?

The American troops left in Saudi where the two holy cities, Mecca and Medina, were.

This was before 911. This didn’t create enough religious nuts; but 911 and then the ignominious IRAQ invasion was the mother lode from 911 that the secret boys used to create a viable jihadi enemy for the 21sy century the neo cons wanted

Then came ISIS

edit on 15-10-2015 by Willtell because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 06:35 PM
a reply to: ancap4liberty

It's been going on a long time. Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground didn't bomb the Pentagon, destroy classified records, then get away free as birds and guilty as hell without a lot of help from the federal government.

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 06:44 PM
a reply to: ancap4liberty
Definitely Yes

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 06:55 PM

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 07:48 PM

originally posted by: InnerPeace2012

originally posted by: Moresby
The answer is "yes".

But the real question is: Was it a matter of unintended consequences or was the whole thing deliberate?

Deliberate Moresby, deliberate, it was planned all alone...


“We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran” –

General Wesley Clark. Retired 4-star U.S. Army general, Supreme Allied
Commander of NATO during the 1999 War on Yugoslavia .

Gen. Wesley Clark Weighs Presidential Bid: “I Think About It Everyday”

This video is all the proof that should be needed to convict the American leaders of international war crimes. Doesn't get more obvious than this.

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 07:50 PM

originally posted by: Xeven

originally posted by: Willtell
Thos that have unleashed this monster have a big knuckle sandwich waiting for them


Nah I want to punish them here.

Some life in prison terms should be nice. These war criminals don't deserve the easy way out. No death penalty, give them time to think about the genocide they are responsible for.
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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 08:09 PM
a reply to: Isurrender73

You’re absolutely right but the only thing is that there is nobody with the authority or strength to indict the US war criminals.

The UN always looks the other way when the US does their dirty deeds

They rule the EU and the rest of the world is trying to just get along with the Greta Satan

The mad are running the mad house

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 08:09 PM

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 08:17 PM
This episode with Syria is the straw that reveals the US as the great Satan!

There’s no way to overstate the Obama administration’s destructive and nihilistic role in Syria. Along with its Gulf allies, the US has funded, armed and trained the bulk of the jihadi hoodlums that have ripped the state apart and killed nearly one quarter of a million people. Now that Putin has decided to put an end to Washington’s savage proxy war, the administration is planning to add more fuel to the fire by air-dropping pallets of ammunition and weapons to their fighters in central and eastern Syria. The editors of the New York Times derided the program as “hallucinatory.” Here’s an excerpt from the article:

“…the White House on Friday unveiled a plan that is even more incoherent and fraught with risk.

The Pentagon will stop putting rebel fighters through training in neighboring countries, a program that was designed to ensure that fighters were properly vetted before they could get their hands on American weapons and ammunition. The new plan will simply funnel weapons through rebel leaders who are already in the fight and appear to be making some headway…..

Washington’s experience in Syria and other recent wars shows that proxy fighters are usually fickle and that weapons thrust into a war with no real oversight often end up having disastrous effects……..The initial plan was dubious. The new one is hallucinatory.” (“An Incoherent Syria War Strategy“, New York Times editorial Board)

The above is a great link on the present situation in Syria

Its clear the US is now just throwing gasoline on a fire.

This is the absolute proof of the ABSOLUTE EVIL of America

They are now on a par with the Nazis, Stalin, Genghis Khan, and all other all time evil forces on the planet

What makes America particularly evil is that while it does its dirt it so sanctimoniously claims to be so good and pure.

It is now PURE EVIL!

posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 08:35 PM
Middle East political science:

radical group A gets unruly and starts being a bother to US interests in the area

US funds and trains radical group B to stand against group A

group B beats group A

group B gets unruly and starts being a bother to US interests in the area

Rinse and repeat....

posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:59 AM

originally posted by: Moresby
The answer is "yes".

But the real question is: Was it a matter of unintended consequences or was the whole thing deliberate?

That's the same question I ask myself.

Part of me thinks that it was deliberate and planned out... but then the other part of me thinks they are just a bunch of fools and fail to take history and unintended consequences into account.

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