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The Truth about Terrorism

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posted on Jan, 2 2005 @ 07:25 PM
I agree with most of you about the NWO i understand people who want to stop it,i also have those feelings but always end up at the same conclusion we are not supposed to stop it we could`nt if we tried anyway,the Bible writes and instructs to be aware of the signs and the mark of the beast,God has the power to throw Satan back to hell at his leisure,he allows Satan to rule this world to weed out his people to see who will stay strong and to allow others to want better and follow him.
I have wondered if OBL was not a terrorist but working with the NWO to give them power,there has been alot of dealings with the American Gov (or Bush`s)and the Bin laden family,and that is only 1 tentacle on a vast octopus.
You cant worry about the world so much(myself included)you only need to care for yourself if you really do care about yourself?then others can see Gods light through you and maybe come to the real light,not a false light from Lucifer the masons offer,read the forums when anybody gets close to the truth the masons or satanist`s come in to discredit them and not that they think they can change your view but to kill the seed for others that may grow to know the truth.

posted on Jan, 2 2005 @ 07:57 PM
"An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.
Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.
We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.
We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. our goal will be accomplished one drop at atime so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.
We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.
We will work together always and will remain bound to blood and secrecy.
Death will come to he who speaks.
We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.
We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.
We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, and also in the air.
They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.
The soft metalswill cause them to lose their minds. We will promise them to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.
The poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths, and they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.
From all of this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.
The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe, and wear.
We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.
We will teach them at the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.
Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.
They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.
When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them it's for their help.
We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love the most, sweet things.
When their teeth rot we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.
When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.
We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.
They will grow depressed, slow and obese; and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.
We will focus their attention to money and material things so they may never connect with their innerself. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.
Their minds will belong to us and they will do what we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.
We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.
We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.
They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.
Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood was always be pure, for it is the way.
We will make them kill eachother when it suits us.
We will keep them separated from the oneness with dogma and religion.
We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.
We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themsevles.
We will foment animosity between them through our factions.
When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.
We will make them rip each other'a hearts apart and kill their own children.
We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, and anger as our friend.
The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing eachother.
They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.
We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.
We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.
We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.
We will continue to make them live in fear and anger through images and sounds.
We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.
The tools will be provided by their labor.
We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.
We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!
They must never know that color is an illusion; they must always think they are not equal.
Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.
We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.
We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they have left.
We wil establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.
When they shall band together, we will accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own the all the media.
We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.
When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.
They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.
We will recruit some of theur own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not one of us.
The recruitswill be called "initiates" and will be indoctrined to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one of us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.
For their work will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.
They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. They will never know this.
The truth is hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until it's too late.
Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.
When all is in place, they realitly we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self- delusion.
When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.
Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.
But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. This they must never know.
If they ever find out that together they can vanguish us, they will take action.
They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.
This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.
This covenant must never, ever be known to exist. It must never, ever be written or spoken, for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the prime creator upon us, and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain their until the end time of infinity itself.
This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood- We, the ones who from heaven to earth came."

-Author, unknown

[edit on 1-2-2005 by Illmatic67]

posted on Jan, 2 2005 @ 08:36 PM
Arky, maybe you can sort through this stuff and make sense out of it.

Google has 124,000 entries about chem-trails. I have about ten.

Here's Google's first three:

Results 1 - 10 of about 124,000 for chemtrails. (0.04 seconds)

Chemtrails Data Page
... Chemtrails Over Albany, NY - Watching Planes Turn Spray On. Chemtrail Aerosols
Cover So. ... Chemtrails Over Germany And An Alabama Man's Conversion ... - 46k - Cached - Similar pages

An extensive website proving that chemtrails are a secret government conspiracy.
CIA and military coverup. - 3k - 1 Jan 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

Chemtrails, an Introduction
... If you are just beginning to learn about Chemtrails, the following ...
The overhead spraying of chemtrails has continued unabated for over three years ... - 54k - Cached - Similar pages

It's sort of like trying to take a drink out of a firehose. Ya know?

posted on Jan, 3 2005 @ 11:21 AM
I agree with many points made by Arkaleus and others, except a few key ones. First, we're not fighting "evil", because evil is subjective - our government(s) think it's for the best, that it's a "good" thing they are doing, by pretending they know what's best for us (which is a lie they tell themselves, but nevertheless, good is subjective). You can spend all the time in the world trying to argue what is evil and what is not, and you'd never reach agreement - because everyone will always have their view, ALWAYS. However, that's not the point. The point is to SEE who are the true "terrorists", meaning, who are the true oppressors, deceivers, liars, murderers, psychopaths, manipulators, who use fear (terror) to control entire populations, and to differenciate them from those who are simply defending their own lives, country, and people, but are LABELED terrorists to fool the ignorant, sleeping population.

The 2nd point is, there's nothing we can do about the way our world is. It is what it is for a good reason - that reason is our own basic nature, because we cannot say our governments are not like we are - they are, they are the representation of human nature itself - selfishness. And so, if you "beat" this government somehow, the next one will rise up and will do the exact same thing. I know this, and you know this - thousands of years of history have shown this is true, despite all attempts by people during those thousands of years to "change the world" with NO success - you CANNOT, because our world is the way it is because people are the way they are, and that's something YOU can never change. But what you CAN change is yourself, and perhaps inspire others to do the same. Consider how vast and powerful this system of control is, how many "levels" of controllers, secret societies, shadow governments, and other secretive and power-hungry groups of psychopaths there are. There is a possibility that you can GET OUT of this system alive, if you band together with like-minded and co-linear people, with the same goals and intentions. You cannot overthrow this system and change it, it will always be this way because it represents the basic nature of humans at its very core, but if you manage to change your nature by serious and constant work on yourself, you may become literally UNFIT for this world, and have a chance to escape. Where there is a will, there is a way.

Sadly, this situation in our world will get much worse before it gets better. Not just politically, but in terms of climate as well - because the energy of people and events in the world is reflected in the environment. And as the chaos, death, and other entropic aspects of our world grow, so does the chaos in our weather and other systems in the world. Entropy rules the world, and it pulsates, or cycles if you will. History inevitably repeats itself as a result. But the energy is not negative because of struggle and pain, because pain/struggle are essential aspects of learning. The "negativity" is the entropy itself, the willingness of humanity to be asleep, mechanical, self-centered, completely conditioned and programmed, and willing to manipulate/control others to get what they want. All are aspects of entropy. Pain and suffering are just elements of growth and change, they are always present as catalyst for growth to some degree even if entropy is not "the rule" - but because entropy IS the rule here, it results in cyclic chaos in many systems, as humanity "cycles" historically speaking, each time building up to the ultimate "entropic reality" of complete totalitarian world domination by a few shadowy elite, and complete passiveness and ignorance and helplessness of the rest of the humans as they become slaves of their own illusions and self-calming lies. And that system each time "resets" as it leads to the climax and the # hits the fan to destroy EVERYTHING and EVERYONE, and humanity starts over. This has been played out countless times on this planet, and we're "lucky" to be alive in one of the climaxes, when # just gets out of control and the grand cycle closes.

And countless of people naively hoped to change the world and tried their best to do it over millenia, and failed each time - because they failed to realise a key truth of this reality: the world is the way it is for a reason, it exists for us to come and LEARN, it is not in our power to change it, what is in our power is only to change ourselves and move on when we're ready. The world will always be the embodiment of the nature of the inhabitants of it, and you cannot force humanity to change its own nature anymore than you can force humans to stop eating food. But if you change yourself ENOUGH, you may simply find yourself in a new world, one that is fundementally different at the CORE, one in which you will fit. This world will forever remain just as a 3rd grade classroom will always remain, but the student just passes through and graduates.

But hey, as someone wise once said, "There are lessons to be learned, and humanity will learn them one way or another".

posted on Jan, 3 2005 @ 01:26 PM
Liblam, are you from India?

This is a very "Hindu" response to this issue.

Pacific. Passive. Pessimistic.

Our Constitution was written by people who were "activists," not "passivists."

Are the days of ordinary people taking political initiatives OVER?

I doubt it.

And at this point, I'll defer to Ark's eloquence.

[edit on 3-1-2005 by defrag99]

posted on Jan, 3 2005 @ 02:41 PM
Western minds have suffered for so long under darkness and oppression that they have lost sight of truth. They throw their hands up and say, things are as they are, we have no ability to change, let us just die and be buried.

I am going to kick this dog, because I tire of his barking and snarling.

There is such a thing as good and evil, and they did not begin on the earth. That is like saying that intelligence only exists on the earth, and everything is under human consideration. That is, of course, nonsense, and it is contrary to every holy philosophy and book ever written.

Where are you getting these new ideas? They seem to come from demons more than any kind of insight. They breed helplessness and apathy, which is the fruit of demons and evil spirits.

Have you read one single holy book? They are quite clear on the matter of good and evil. You seem to have rejected them. What can help you then?

The 2nd point is, there's nothing we can do about the way our world is

One day, mankind stepped out of the caves and planted a seed of maize in the field where there were once wild beasts and grasses. He Cultivated and improved his world. He could have said what you said, and thought it impossible to improve his lot, but fortunately for us he did not. He knew things could be better, and he achieved it.

There is no limitation to what we can accomplish. It is foolish to insult our potential and submit and become passive to the forces of this world. Grow your intellect and become a proper man.

Injustice and evil in this world do not belong here. Just because it's been here for a long time, doesnt' t mean its a legitimate resident. It's always been an alien, and an invader. It's not always been the devil's world, and we are not the devil's people. Down with the devil, and down with his people. Let justice be struck against his kingdom.

All people are not evil and selfish. Most of them are, but so what? Not everyone is. The typical human response to those of us who are not evil and selfish is rather silly. They can't handle it. They become angry, or jealous, and they do evil because that is the will of their father.

And as the chaos, death, and other entropic aspects of our world grow, so does the chaos in our weather and other systems in the world. Entropy rules the world...

Nonsense. Entropy has nothing to do with life. This whole universe demonstrates that entropy is not the law of the universe. Order forms out of chaos, not the other around. Entropy is a specific physical property of limited closed systems. It does not accurately model the universe. People abuse the concept of entropy all the time as a justification for chaos in human societies and thoughts. That is just plain ignorance.

If anything, our increased scientific knowledge has shown that life is abundant in the universe, and the systems of order can support it are common, widespread, and enduring. Update yourself and see the bounty of creation.

And countless of people naively hoped to change the world and tried their best to do it over millennia, and failed each time...

Do you live in America? Do you know our history? Are you saying that the American revolution was a failure? Are you saying that we did not throw off tyranny and codify an enlightened philosophy in our laws and government? I don't understand how you can be so hopeless.

You mentioned the great cycles, and this is true. But you do not allow for good, you do not think there is anything besides human life on earth. As such, you have no foundation or expectation for the future, and your philosophy is a helpless gasp at a universe that you cannot fathom. That is an insult to the wisdom that is easily available to you in books. Men have explored these things before, quite well actually, and the path is well lit for us. Why are you wandering around and making up new stuff?

Let us end human ignorance! Intelligence is not limited to us here on earth, and to think that it has not occurred elsewhere in the universe is foolish. Bring forth good things, bring forth great things, if a farmer can bring forth good things from his field through his thought and efforts, so can everyone else in their fields.


posted on Jan, 3 2005 @ 03:06 PM
ok, what are we going to do about it ?

posted on Jan, 3 2005 @ 03:49 PM
During the Reformation, Martin Luther published his critiques of the Roman Church and one man sparked a revolution.

Words and thoughts discussed freely are what give us our revolutions. It is a function of ripeness of times, and intellectual readiness to change.

I know for a fact that American people are intelligent and observant. They have been put to sleep and are ready to awaken.

I can read under your words when you say, "What do we do?" There is nothing we should do, except speak and write, and read, and converse with one another. That is how the energy we need to move the minds of men over to our cause is generated. Revolutions are like forest fires, and I don't go around setting them.

Revolution is inevitable, just as it was in 1776. But now, revolution is quite unpopular in America because oif the luxurious lifestyles people have -- They have fallen asleep. Very careless, if you ask me.

Remember that old Grateful Dead tune "Uncle John's band?" It goes: "When life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door."

I get the feeling that times are not yet ripe for popular revolution. It will be a little while before people start feeling the effect of the corruption and evil that has taken over the world's governments. They are still insulated by their TV's, their easy food, and their soft houses. When these things are disrupted or made more more difficult to attain, only then will the people start thinking again.

The intent of these new powers was to continue our present lifestyle because then we would not resist or even bother to think hard. That's their worst enemy: Thought and reason. You can't commit evil in borad daylight when the king sits on his throne, and that King is Human Reason and Truth.

So speak! Write! Take a lesson from Martin Luther and speak the truth until it catches fire.


posted on Jan, 3 2005 @ 04:13 PM
It also matter, to whom you speak and write.

Preaching to the choir incites no great flames.

You have to be willing to take on associations that are particularly vulnerable, exploited and unfamiliar to you.

I'm spending some time at a military site, lurking and asking a question now and then, to help clarify issues over there.

They're suspicious of me because my associations are not direct--I'm child of and parent of a soldier not a soldier myself--but they're settling down and my being there is less and less threatening.

I learning their point of view; and when I get a handle on it, then I'll know what to do next. Or say.

But if anybody is suffering from the current regime's poor decision-making skills, those guys are.

Very sincere people.

posted on Jan, 3 2005 @ 04:35 PM
I will write a book about it, if I can get it finished. We need artists, illustrators, and writers to express these things in a way the Western world can understand. Debates about good and evil and absrtact conepts will never be commuicated to the masses.

But honestly, things really won't change until we start to see changes in our lifestyle and environment from the weight of the corruptions and wrongs. Only then men will begin to say, it is worth it to change things.

Beware, because that kind of motivation is often very destructive and damaging to the cultures it occurs in. But how else will men wake up? Not until he shakes off his wine.


posted on Jan, 4 2005 @ 07:24 PM
it is wise to work in ways that dont channel or produce evil/negative energy, many many people are obviously in the pocket of this evil energy, and are ready producers and channels of evil energies.

it isnt a product of truth or the light but is a corruption or disease, you strive to live by the truth and light, whereas this evil corruption or disease feeds off energy and ultimatly corrupts and destroys peoples and planets.

it seems obvious that evil is trying to create a planet that is a ready channel of energy for it to live through and its chosen entities to live on this planet in physical bodies.

as the light needs no corruption, as the light has always existed and always will, light can cultivate and express itself, the light needs no other, as we are the souls who can live in this light and experience god we are obliged to live correctly so we will be able to continue to exist, this is the individuals responsibility as the individual is the one who damages or improves there soul, this is why it is important not to be decieved by evil.

it is obvious this planet has let itself be seduced and controlled by a evil or corruption and also helped create and cultivate this lie to a high degree, this lie technically doesnt exist, it is not eternal whereas the light is eternal, your soul can also be eternal if you stay with the light to some degree, though when you become lined up with evil and dark you can make yourself nonexistent, because evil things have no eternal values.

there are groups people and entities who are even wilfully planning and manipulating to have this planet as a big batterry for evil, through you being mindless drones, who will be triggered by events to create the desired negative energy that evil can exist through.

and also a system being created around you which will be a haven for negative energies and entities.

evil is very real.

now to get back to my original point, what works is to not act or live your life with the negative energies, you should aviod actions that create negative energies.

this can be easier said then done, but as i said you strive to live by the light, so you work to your fulliest within the light and free will.

you will find many who are turning away from free will and light and just doing as they like, doing as the negative energies and entities who have hold of them make them, and also doing what there self wants, they become selfish etc etc etc.

it is important not to fall into the trap of channeling the negative energies of evil like rage evil deception corruption etc, as then you are part of the problem.

you should look for truth justice liberty honesty goodness compassion etc, and aviod rage type emotions running through you, positive kind of actions and emotions makes it very difficult for negative energies and entities to work through and around you.

the majority in the world are working for lower energies this is apparent by what is happening, our first defense is to be above these negative evil energies.

that way we are not part of the problem, and you will start to get a clearer understanding when viewing these phenomena.

arkaleus makes the important point of research and writing and doing productive things, this way you are channeling forces that are more of good and creating good.

posted on Jan, 4 2005 @ 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Arkaleus
I will write a book about it, if I can get it finished. We need artists, illustrators, and writers to express these things in a way the Western world can understand. Debates about good and evil and absrtact conepts will never be commuicated to the masses.

But honestly, things really won't change until we start to see changes in our lifestyle and environment from the weight of the corruptions and wrongs. Only then men will begin to say, it is worth it to change things.

Beware, because that kind of motivation is often very destructive and damaging to the cultures it occurs in. But how else will men wake up? Not until he shakes off his wine.


i agree, it will probably seem like things are getting much worse before they get better, and or it will probably get much worse before it gets better.

posted on Jan, 7 2005 @ 02:04 PM
I think it's time for a book. I am going to work with an illustrator and make some really edgy cartoons about the NWO and its supporters.

It's anti-consumerism, anti-corporate government, anti NWO. I'm gonna smack the dragon right in its forehead. Help me out, brothers.


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