Towns near Los Angeles already left with no running water at all

use to be the people in the community would get together to solve problems like this, as a group. now that gov has to micro manage everybody and everything, you have to wait for them to decide what they are going to do.

a reply to: Variable

If you think that's bad you should here about the cotton farm in Arazona that bascially waste water to keep the water rights.

Article Here

TLDR is that its absurd that people are trying to irrigate/farm in a Dessert when there is perfectly less water intensive places to farm. They also have received over 3 billion in subsidies to keep the farming going in the state (in some cases just to keep hold on to the water rights).

Sounds to me like its everyone's fault, the farmers not wanting to move and the state giving aid with a blind eye to keep business in the state.

What farmers are doing, polluting water with chemicals, should be a crime. Millions of gallons of water are used for fracking. What they are doing with perfectly good water should be a crime. You don't need petrol or food if you're dead from lack of water. The world's priorities are messed up.

double post.....my first

a reply to: Sovan
How utterly absurd to see the name "Nestle" on a water bottle.
Nestle Continues Stealing World's Water During Drought

originally posted by: ugmold
a reply to: Sovan
How utterly absurd to see the name "Nestle" on a water bottle.
Nestle Continues Stealing World's Water During Drought

Huge government failure.

Again.

originally posted by: alonzo730
The government could build desalination plants and use ocean water, it's expensive, but it's better than sitting on your hands.

en.wikipedia.org...

To build desalination plants we also need to build new nuclear plants to power them. That's pretty much the only thing that will supply enough energy to our power grid to cover it. No one wanted to build new nuclear plants before Fukushima, they sure as hell don't want to now.

a reply to: Aazadan



Why not? We just made that very thing easier for Iran and everybody says that's a great idea.

This town, considering where it is located, its not too much of a surprise. Its still a huge failure in every respect, but its not so much of a surprise.

There was a show on the History Channel a few years ago called Prophets of Doom. One of the speakers on the show was John Cronin, CEI of the Beacon Institute for Rivers and Estuaries. His area of expertise was water and the crisis we are in which is going to get much worse much faster than most people think. I clipped his segment of the show and posted it here. He did speak much more throughout the show which was 90 minutes long. This clip is about 10 minutes and is where he gives the basis for his belief that water is the biggest threat we are currently facing. All the guys on that show had some valid points, but none with as much immediate relevance as him.

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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Aazadan



Why not? We just made that very thing easier for Iran and everybody says that's a great idea.

I'm very pro nuclear, most of the country disagrees with that sentiment though. People are too terrified over what happens in the disasters (which are greatly reduced using a 4th generation plant).

originally posted by: alonzo730
The government could build desalination plants and use ocean water, it's expensive, but it's better than sitting on your hands.

en.wikipedia.org...

The previous governors had built new sufficient water reservoirs for just this occasion. Unfortunately they conflicted with several endangered or would endanger certain species of life . So it is better a "newt" has a chance at life rather than the population has water. Unbelievable...

My great great grandparents immigrated from Germany they settled on a plot and built a modest farm house. Obviously they didn't have running water. There was a well and an outhouse.

When my parents bought the farm 20 years ago it still just had the same well and an outhouse.

It took a couple years, but eventually my parents remodeled the old homestead. Now there's a fancy outhouse called a septic tank, which utilizes much less water than a sewer system and is much less expensive and maintain.

For you city folk, simply imagine your wastewater flows in to a buried porta-#ter, where the solids settle and the liquids float and slowly percolate in to the soil. After several years a truck comes and pumps out the solids for a modest fee and the cycle begins again.

IMO sewers are unnecessary, as most backyards are large enough to handle a septic system with no ill effects. The waste water also eventually makes its way down to the water table, being filtered mechanically by the soil and biologically by microbes, rather than being chemically cleaned by the sanitation department then discharged in to a river and sent to the ocean.

originally posted by: alonzo730
The government could build desalination plants and use ocean water, it's expensive, but it's better than sitting on your hands.

en.wikipedia.org...

They did build one after the last drought. But they decided to stop using it or take it down after

a reply to: Kuroodo

They shut it down, those things consume enormous amounts of electricity and aren't very efficient. They are typically considered a last resort.

.. They are in the process of bringing it back online since it is becoming a last resort now.

For this town, this plant won't be very useful since it's so far inland.. the plants need to be built on the coast.

originally posted by: undo
use to be the people in the community would get together to solve problems like this, as a group. now that gov has to micro manage everybody and everything, you have to wait for them to decide what they are going to do.

It IS the people in the community who are responding. It started with people in the neighborhood, then moved to the county level. In between are water districts and cities. Even at the local level, there still can be some confusion as to what help gets done.

It is only because of this local help that residents have access to water to either bring home or have delivered to tanks in their yard. No one waited for a gov to decide.

More information re water can be found at Community Water Center, a grass roots organization.