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originally posted by: Voyaging
Very true. I completely agree with that philosophy; I'ts actually the way I tend to look at the death sentence as well. If we were to judge killing based solely on societal norms and values, it would be considered extremely wrong. So, then why is it a form of punishment. Same philosophy in my opinion.
originally posted by: ketsuko
I'll ask you this:
If there were a way to take all the horrific memories straight from the victim and put them into the rapist, would you go for it?
originally posted by: ketsuko
I'll ask you this:
If there were a way to take all the horrific memories straight from the victim and put them into the rapist, would you go for it?
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: FyreByrd
The point isn't so much about making the perpetrator suffer. It's about wanting them to understand what they did and make them empathize to realize it was wrong because I think most right-minded people can't understand how anyone could do that to another human being.
So the logical following thought is that if the person who did it really understood, truly empathized they wouldn't be able to do it or they would feel real remorse for what they'd done.
originally posted by: Entreri06
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: FyreByrd
The point isn't so much about making the perpetrator suffer. It's about wanting them to understand what they did and make them empathize to realize it was wrong because I think most right-minded people can't understand how anyone could do that to another human being.
So the logical following thought is that if the person who did it really understood, truly empathized they wouldn't be able to do it or they would feel real remorse for what they'd done.
I understand the desire for vengence; but it has no place in our hearts. For the truly psychopathic and the like we separate them from society but we don't torture them - they will have to live with what they've done.
Truly we've all done horrible things, in this life or another, but through the example of worthier beings we learned not to treat others as objects and have compassion.
Be grateful that you aren't that rapist.
People know how wrong rape and torture is the just find a way to justify it. I don't think it helps.
originally posted by: FyreByrd
originally posted by: Entreri06
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: FyreByrd
The point isn't so much about making the perpetrator suffer. It's about wanting them to understand what they did and make them empathize to realize it was wrong because I think most right-minded people can't understand how anyone could do that to another human being.
So the logical following thought is that if the person who did it really understood, truly empathized they wouldn't be able to do it or they would feel real remorse for what they'd done.
I understand the desire for vengence; but it has no place in our hearts. For the truly psychopathic and the like we separate them from society but we don't torture them - they will have to live with what they've done.
Truly we've all done horrible things, in this life or another, but through the example of worthier beings we learned not to treat others as objects and have compassion.
Be grateful that you aren't that rapist.
People know how wrong rape and torture is the just find a way to justify it. I don't think it helps.
It's not a justificaton in any way - it is compassion.
As it is said "an eye for an eye" just makes everyone blind. And it the real world, just escalates the conflict and proides no means of healing for the victim and just reinforces to the perpertrator that Force is the only way.