Racisim - The Tool Of Fools

a reply to: BennyHavensOh

Of course blacks aren't really black, they are brown and whites aren't white they are beige so perhaps nobody here is really smart enough to figure it all out and put our heads together and stop this BS in the first place!

Insofar as determining worth in another human being, skin color is an invalid unit of measure. What skin color does tell us, however, is the color of the skin and that's about it.

The idea that skin color could possibly tell us more about a person, for instance their behaviour, is without any merit. What bothers me besides that sort of moronic racism are those who identify with the color of their own skin, self-racism, for instance, a white man identifying with whites, and thereby automatically lumping himself together with people like Hitler and Jeffry Dahmer, based on no meaningful connection save for faint similarities in pigment.

Racism is a method for idiots.

a reply to: phinubian

An excellent reply, thank you for taking the time to do so with such insight. Television, once called the idiot box by us old folk, has the ability to take a small incident, blow it out of proportion, and use the smoke and mirrors of the deception to sway the minds of the masses. But as you say, the internet has brought out conflicting information to the "show" and many more people may very well be awakening to the sham that is being purported upon us. A good reason that the Bolsheviks are determined to control it's availability. As long as we are still free, places like this will be the best way to share ideas and information.

a reply to: BennyHavensOh

I will concede I am racist. That does not mean I am stupid or easily misled. I have a doctorate and hold an elite professional position. My reasoning is I have been the victim of five criminal acts, each at the hands of a black male or group of black males. Again, I have lived a life of reletive peace, amongst people of every race, and the five worst acts against me have been performed by black males. Federal crime statistics indicate I am not an anomaly.

To me, life is a series of decisions. Most of the time, it is not possible to give every man a fair and just opportunity to avail themselves to me. Contrary claims are bs. Instead, we must judge and I do so based on my reasonable beliefs.

I do not claim every black male is a bad person, I am very aware thats not true. I do claim that it is in my best interest to avoid or at the least be extra judicious while interacting with black males. Metaphorically, the juice is not worth the squeeze.

I believe I am a minority in this regard, and certainly can not go public with my genuine and sincere intentions for fear of reprisal. To me that indicates racism is not acceptable in our society, contrary to what has been stated in this thread.

a reply to: mlemo

I say that you have earned the right to your opinion and that you have done it the hard way. I would not consider you to be racist as much as skeptical with cause.

a reply to: mlemo
I'll give you credit for exploring an uncomfortable theme without apology, we should all be more honest if we are to ever find and address the problems that create racism. Whether you are a racist or not would depend on one's definition of what racism is. By popular standards perhaps you are but you are also a member of a statistical group as a victim of crime. We all know the stats point to certain races being more likely to engage in x, y or z. So what? You react in order to keep yourself from becoming a repeat victim, something anyone of intelligence would do. That in itself does not make one racist IMO but the popular standard would likely say differently.

Like you I have been a repeat victim of theft, assault and vandalism - all by people I did not know. I will go out of my way to avoid certain groups and situations the same as you.
It's a catch-22, but in the end most people would rather be called racist than end up being repeat victims of crime. Sociologists and politicians can blame economic conditions and make excuses all they like but until every person of every race is held to the same standards such behavior will only continue to be encouraged and blamed on every one else but the perpetrator themselves.

I have gotten death threats from the klan for things I have written and protests I've organized yet I'm certain I would still be branded a racist by some for the things I mention above. TBH I don't believe certain groups want to solve racism. To them it's like an old familiar friend to bear the blame when things go wrong and alleviate them of guilt for wrongs they do others.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

I am a passionate proponent of this type of communication. I truly believe a sincere person of any race respects this type dialogue more than preposterous claims of whole hearted color blindness.

I will never ask for consensus acceptance of my beliefs, but I do sincerely appreciate the replies.

a reply to: BennyHavensOh

blacks aren't really black, they are brown and whites aren't white they are beige

This is where I've been all these years. I experience secret guilt over this blatant inaccuracy when I participate in discussions of racial issues.

I have to always try to explain that the issues are not really between people with different skin colors, rather between obsolete cultural ideas and the demand for human-rights observance equally for all.

a reply to: phinubian

quiet weapon,

and quiet war.

originally posted by: BennyHavensOh
a reply to: mlemo

I say that you have earned the right to your opinion and that you have done it the hard way. I would not consider you to be racist as much as skeptical with cause.

No. I think he knows himself quite well and he is quite accurate in his description of himself. His response in another thread, placed here for the convenience of all, clearly shows an individual that is not all that he claims.

posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:07 AM link originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Using your logic, "everyone "should go back to the home of their ancestors. I think they should be given free travel back. I will take a ticket to Arizona, since that is where the reservation, where my grandmother was born is located.

Thats fine with me, you all can live on your little plot and drink fire water all day. Im sure youll get along just fine without federal subsidies and casino revenue, like so many native communities do today. But youre going to have to make and sell some baskets or arrowheads to fund your own ticket, as this exchange means you can no longer be a dependent citizen. Later bro. Also, do not discount the goodwill of my gesture. As historically, to the victors went the spoils. And ethiopians nor natives can claim their lands as a result of victory, only pity for their victimization. Obviously, all Israelis leeching in ethiopia shall be the first to vacate. edit on 5-5-2015 by mlemo because: (no reason given)

mlemo never mentions why he has been victimized, repeatedly. He claims;

Again, I have lived a life of reletive peace, amongst people of every race, and the five worst acts against me have been performed by black males. Federal crime statistics indicate I am not an anomaly.

Yet his post does not reflect an honest, peaceful man. I do not know what he did, or said, if anything at all, to become the

victim of five criminal acts, each at the hands of a black male or group of black males.

but I doubt he was completely innocent and that he did nothing to encourage the attacks, if they even occurred at all.

I too will be honest. I do not trust mlemo. I do not believe anything he says. I will not engage mlemo. I have already said all I plan to ever say to him. I will not be used as a pawn in his twisted game.

I am sharing this information with you because I do not want you to be conned by an individual of such dubious character. All of you will have to make your decision about his honesty and character. I have made mine.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Do not conflate a street fight with my daily prayer.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

We all know they are playing games with us just to accentuate the fact that educated people can be controlled by words alone and I think it amuses them (TPTB). I worked in a warehouse a few years ago with a black guy that I became very friendly with who used to refer to me as nagger (can't believe I just did that), during the course of the conversation to which I responded that I was in fact a nagger because I got stuck with all the dirty jobs, but that was why I was there I guess. Well, he said, "Hey you just said nagger"! and I said "Well you said it too". Yeah, but I'm black, I can say it", he said. I told him "No your not, you are brown and I am still the nagger here"! "You're crazy", he replied. "Yes I am:, I said, but that is why he liked me, and I liked him too. If a tribe of sheet wearing cowards were taking my buddy off to hang him I would do whatever I had to do to make damned sure they did not succeed and would not be capable of doing such a thing again.

People are strange. They are smart at the same time they are stupid and they screw up constantly even as they do good, but if you don't take them one at a time on a case by case basis, then you are not doing it right.

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a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Posting here is not an issue of trust but a privilege.
If you have a complaint about someone's posts just hit the button and let staff address it please.
Reposting quotes in other threads is not allowed btw.

Who you trust is your prerogative but being a fairly new member they may not really understand our rules or take them as seriously as they should. We try to build community here on ATS so rather than taking a conflicting stance we've found it far more beneficial to point out the problems certain things may cause and remind them because we do value their opinion, and ask them to reign themselves in and refrain from making certain types of comments. What people need more than ever is to be open to views they may not personally hold. This is how we expand our horizons and open ourselves up to understanding others on a deeper level.

Cheers,
ATA
Forum Moderator

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Posting here is not an issue of trust but a privilege.
If you have a complaint about someone's posts just hit the button and let staff address it please.
Reposting quotes in other threads is not allowed btw.

Who you trust is your prerogative but being a fairly new member they may not really understand our rules or take them as seriously as they should. We try to build community here on ATS so rather than taking a conflicting stance we've found it far more beneficial to point out the problems certain things may cause and remind them because we do value their opinion, and ask them to reign themselves in and refrain from making certain types of comments. What people need more than ever is to be open to views they may not personally hold. This is how we expand our horizons and open ourselves up to understanding others on a deeper level.

Cheers,
ATA
Forum Moderator

I apologize to you and ATS if I have broken your rules.

I am afraid there are some things for which I have little or no tolerance. I find this new trend at ATS disturbing. I am usually very understanding and compassionate, but I see up close and very, very personally the results of racism and hatred.

When a person states the obvious, it does not mean they are being honest. It is nothing more than an deceitful ploy used to lull you into striking reach. If you accept their statement as honesty, then you give credibility to anything else they say. This is a big mistake, and they count on it. In fact, it is an old and quite effective tactic; from Eden to the present.

I have seen an increase in the number of new members that join to play their mind games. They have no interest in open views or expanding their horizons.

I have enjoyed my time at ATS, and I did once consider it an honor and a "privileged". I have reached the stage of life when retirement keeps whisperipng, "It is time." I think I will heed this call. I started as a lurker and had planned to return to the shadows, but, I don't think ATS is the place for me anymore. There has to be a place out there for the ones that have been put out to pasture. I think it is time for me to go roaming.

I will miss so many of you, but it "is" time.

Goodbye and thank you for the memories ATS.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Well I think this policy is an admirable one and am happy to operate under these guidelines. I find it far more valuable to discuss differences in opinions than to argue them and have found that the right words mayl make a person stop and think while the wrong or critical ones only harden the other person's stance. Keeping it civil should go a long way towards making ATS a valuable forum for the exchange of thoughts and ideas.

Though I am professionally trained by the US Army's finest in the dealing of violence and death to those whom our Masters deem worthy, my decades of experience have proven beyond a doubt to me that violence of any and all kinds simply creates more and bigger problems than non-violence. I have been banned from other sites for this belief when it countered the agendas of those who ruled. I understand that violence will never end, either sanctioned or criminal varieties and it is childish to think that it could, but perhaps that is what was meant by the statement that unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. There are many who call for violence. I choose to work for peace and call for any to join me that would.

a reply to: BennyHavensOh

Other than cross-posting everything else I said is not official policy but what I try to do as a staff member. I know from having 4 kids that communication works better than taking an oppositional stance. I was not aware of the past history of 2 posters in this thread bumping heads elsewhere but was only replying based on posts in this thread.

Here a black man that this old white guy would gladly gear up for and follow into battle any day:

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