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What actually Happened?

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posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 12:32 PM
What happened at the Area 51 facility for it to be shut down?? If it is shut down then why is the Area S4 facility still open??

the government has disclosed the fact that the area 51 test facility has been closed, but if it has then why is the area s4 facility still open as the two bases are in distance of each other?

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 02:37 PM
it never was shut down, it was just never there, and now the gov. says it is, but they never talk about it. also there is no hard proof that s4 even exists and if anything it is not open. personaly i think s4 is a load of um, beep.

[edit on 17-12-2004 by Velvet1717]

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 02:42 PM
Area 51 basically just tests out UCAV tech (publically known vehicles), being they have a new facility from which to "play" around at (that tests out publically 'unknown vehicles').


posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 03:45 PM
The Area 51 facility has been known for years, even thou the government says its not there, we all have photos to prove its existance and other methods. Also Area S4 does exist

supposibly inside Hangar 18 there is a huge elevator leading underground.

Rumours has it that area 51 is a base for traveling into the centre of the earth, via shuttles.

The area 51 facility has recently closed according to a source and moved to utah califonia. If it has moved then why is there still a huge millitary presence at the nervada test facility???

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 04:04 PM
Ummm... a few things, easily found in the public record:

1.) Rather than Area 51, it would be wiser to say "The Ranch" or Groom Lake, or Dreamland (air space R-4808E). It could very well be that "Area 51" does not exist, because it's not named "Area 51", but rather something involving Dream or Ranch, or Groom.

2.) The dry lake bed would be a terrible place to put an elevator, considering the nature of the soil and shifting earth. A much more reasonable place to put the downward elevator (assuming it even exists) would be in Groom Mine, (owned by the Sheahan family). The Sheahan family lease it to the DoD, and are only allowed to visit it during pre-approved and scheduled times, leaving plenty of time to hide it.

3.) It is well known publicly that the place is in use, and can even be witnessed in the Nova special "The Battle of the X-Planes" which was a documentary on the competition between Boeing and Lockheed to win the contract that eventually turned into the JSF. Testing was done at Groom Lake, and Nova was allowed a rare on-site filming.


posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 06:25 PM
Area 51 has never been closed. It youst have been bigger whit new taxi ways and whater thanks... The goverment doent say that it dosent exist but they doent like talking about it. Area 51 Is Not secret. What they do there is secret or classified... And it aint something about alien, It is a base where they make new planes.

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 07:19 PM
No one can say it holds or doesn't hold alien/advanced technology, because no one ahs ever been close enough to know! I think tunnels underground go a long way around and hold things that we know nothing of...

posted on Dec, 18 2004 @ 03:31 PM
groom lake is just for testing out new aircraft. that's it. S4 is not real. there is one picture of a black dot on it. that's all there is to prove that it is there. the gov. knows it's there they just never talk about it. I don't think there is any alien tech. there. and there is no elevator there. Bio Bob just red the "travler to the hollow earth" and belved it. the one that talks about the 8 foot tall people that drive you there and it's 800 miles deep. the radius of the earth is 3963.1 miles. so that's pretty much out. Hanger 18 can't hold aircraft because it has no root top ventlation.

posted on Dec, 18 2004 @ 03:45 PM
With all the talk of ares 51 or dreamland or groom lake going on, could it not, or would it not, be the time to keep the base in use for uva's etc but move the really black aircraft to the new site?

posted on Dec, 18 2004 @ 04:21 PM

Originally posted by Xon
Area 51 has never been closed.

Not closed but moved to White Sands in Utah?? Popular Mechanics say other wise... Link

posted on Dec, 19 2004 @ 07:19 AM
where did we hear that it was moved in the first place?


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