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Murder exists, despite there being laws against murder. Therefore, government law is just an illusion. You can say that laws against murder prevent MORE murder from occurring, but since murder occurs, that just proves the law is powerless to stop murder, so the law preventing ANY murder is unfounded.
All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are.
You say that you don't see anarchism in the real world. Murder, rape, theft, political corruption, I guess those things don't exist in your world, you must live in a pretty good world! There are laws against all these things, yet all these things happen. As others have pointed out, law is simply reactionary, so even calling it a law is incorrect, it should just be called "reactionary force." A real law is like gravity, it is instantaneously reactionary and also prevailing, the reason why we are orbiting the sun. Government law on the other hand is purely an illusion that requires constant enforcement for it to exist.
See my argument about my lucky rabbit's foot. Saying a murder was prevented by the law is like proving a negative, it can't be done, so you say the law prevented that murder from happening, I say it was my lucky rabbit's foot. Or maybe, the law prevented a bad guy from murdering people because the law killed that bad guy, so dust off your hands and congratulate yourself that murder has been prevented (except of course having to murder the bad guy).
It's true there are no crimes without laws, that by definition means the law must create the crime in order to punish it, so without law, there would be no crime. So there you have it, with law always comes crime. This further proves that law can never eliminate crime.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
You're making a poor comparison based largely on ambiguity in language.
I'm not making the poor comparison based on ambiguity, I'm just using the terms other people use. The system of justice that we live under is universally called "The Law," I'm just pointing out that this isn't true, whereas gravity is more closely a real law. So I'm not the one playing word games, the "law-makers" are.
Ultimately it was your own individual choice that decided to not pursue the criminal in question that harmed your family. You were no doubt influenced by the threat of the law, but that was still your choice. Another person in the same situation may not have the same self-control. If you really wanted to do something, the law, as usual, could only react to your vigilantism, and not prevent you from doing it.
Plus, anecdotal evidence is never enough to disprove or prove a theory.
I am also a little confused by the semantic component of the thread.
I would simply say that nature and natural processes have shaped our bodies, cultures and societies. To that extent, our ethics and morals are best mated with legislation which can withstand natural ratiocinative inspection.
Social engineering laws are artificial, disruptive, unsustainable and unlawful.