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originally posted by: Kusinjo
a reply to: Tangerine
I think you want to convert. You have been asking me to convince you to convert all the while accusing me and pointing your finger. But you don't just simply walk away. I think you want someone to say something you can't argue with. I think the real battle is inside your self.
I am new here at ATS and I knew I would run into you. And I will run into others like you. You are not offended by me, you need me. If you were offended you would have just walked on by. That's what I do when I smell something that stinks. Guess what, Tangerine. God loves you whether you accept it or not. But I will admit this one thing. You did succeed in knocking me off topic. Now I will get back to it.
These babies are us. It is a simile of what we go through on a day to day basis. I have talk to non-believers that have said their piece and kindly asked that the subject be dropped. I responded with my side and respectively dropped the subject. Others will go on and on with me, heated at times and laughing at others. Those are the discussions I find entertaining and fulfilling. Not the ones where one side calls me stupid and irrelevant and offensive. If anyone here finds anything I have said truly and personally offensive, than I invite you to walk away. Tangerine I didn't ask you to join my discussion so you could rile me or others up. But if that is what you want to do, fine. But I am going to have to change my position to suit what you want.
Here is what you accuse me of. Make no mistake. I don't need to be covert about it.
As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;
In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.
For the director of music. Of David. The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
Remember how the enemy has mocked you, LORD, how foolish people have reviled your name.
Rise up, O God, and defend your cause; remember how fools mock you all day long.
And then in Proverbs:
22How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
The proud and arrogant person--"Mocker" is his name-- behaves with insolent fury.
There now you can be offended for real. I think I would prefer to go back to simple discussion about perspective and spiritualism but look what you made me do. You made me thump the Bible. Thanks for that LMBO
originally posted by: Tangerine
No, before they're born, they're fetuses. After they're born they're babies. Chickens are eggs before they hatch. Now you're claiming that women who have abortions don't want to have abortions. How in hell could you possibly know what all women who've had abortions wanted? The notion that you can speak for women is ridiculous. If you are one, you can speak for only one. If you're not one, you can't speak for any. I didn't bring up abortion, you did.
originally posted by: okyouwin
First it starts out, it’s sad that you don’t think like I do. Then, it’s bad that you don’t think like I do, there must be something wrong with you. Then it’s, you had better start thinking like I do or bad things are going to happen to you. I’m only doing God’s work here, he don’t want people like you around, sorry you can’t see the light. And then you cut off their heads.
So don’t give me this sappy religious sh*t. “You’re not complete without God. You’re inferior without God. You’re less than me.” We appreciate your interest,but you’re not really concerned, you just want to be smug in your considered superiority.
You guys might do better to approach this with an open mind. You could start out with the question to yourself, “How does one survive without the peace that comes with believing.” Explore that question without fear and you may learn something. You may learn why you believe. You may learn that other’s lack of belief is not really a threat to you. That faith is truly like a mustard seed. A small tiny reality tucked deep in your mind, safe from all that would want to take it away from you. A rock, impervious to all outside influence, existing only through your own personal understanding. Nurtured not by how many people you can convert, shame, or destroy, but by the blessings that come from knowing.
Oh that fetus story, so they are about to undergo transformation after delivery. That mean they are not really people yet? I think some of you friends are not going to like that concept.
I don’t want to flame you, but sometimes Christians are like homosexuals. I’m not one, leave my ass alone.
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
the story tells me: All we know is that we don't know nothing. Same with the fetuses.
Believing in something other than here is one thing. Believing in a specific religion is quite another, especially given most of their historical track records. Men really do crazy # in the name of religion. Why is that?
Personally, the story is insulting to me. It seems often religion likes wrap the true mysteries in doublespeak and offers only the most laymen of knowledge to their followers. Why is that?