Over 80 Percent of Dark-Web Visits Relate to Pedophilia, Study Finds

WHAT has been all this stuff I've been reading lately about pedophiles. Are there REALLY that many people out there that do this??? It's completely disgusting and unacceptable. I don't care who you are or how much power you have. There's a lot more people into it than i thought i guess. Something i will never understand and must be something terribly wrong with these scumbags. Children are innocent. how can someone scar and innocent little person like this? i will never understand.

a reply to: miss_sky

I did not know any such thing happened until I was in my 30's and I read an article in a magazine. I got very upset and angry.

Unfortunately... there are more of those horrible people than many of us thought.

I have come to understand that there are people in this world who are truly evil...and doing evil deeds is what they enjoy... they enjoy trying to destroy good people...many of them are cunning and good actors...many of them are physically attractive and seem to be charming...but they are truly evil.

If I had the power to save all the children on this planet...I surely would...as I know many, many other people would too.

a reply to: Floydshayvious

Lots of insight in your post. Yes, your 'ramblings' make sense. Here are some questions your post brought to my mind...

1. Even if they cracked down on the Internet, would that really effect the dark net? (They already circumvent established laws / social mores.)

2. In terms of cracking down on the Internet... who gets to decide? That's the biggy for me. Besides the fact that the US Gov would use the power to tailor-make it to suit their own goals (not that of the common man) ...can any one country really crack down on another country's Internet?

(#2 just made me think of how the US screams bloody murder when 'evil dictators' limit Internet (and other media) their citizens can access. A leader of one country can hardly justify condemning another leader for his/her censorship choices, just because their ideals/beliefs on the matter differ.)

All that said, why the heck can't Anon work it's magic and expose contact info on all visitors to dark net child porn sites? Everybody knows 'knowledge is power' ...not rules. People break rules. But people hide in the dark (net), the things they do not want known, because they know it would ruin them. So shine a light on the perpetrators. Anybody potential visitors to those sites would run the other way and the whole online child porn industry would crumble. Problem solved. (Except for the damage already done to precious young souls.)

Here is a fun fact.. There is another program besides torr that uses the internet.. This is supposedly mainly of people trying to organize protests and such.. Supposedly the Egypt uprising was because of this program and alot of people who do protests supposedly use this other program to coordinate things for a protest..

Link talking about my point.

On the other hand, governments have also used the Deep Web for surveillance and tracking, with Tor openly admitting to allowing US field agents and law enforcement officers to seek out and contain piracy, illegal trafficking and leaks without leaving a trail of their own. Simultaneously, it is accessed by opponents of the state, such as environmental and animal rights activists, terrorist groups, and ‘hacktivists’ such as ‘Anonymous’, being particularly pivotal during uprisings in Egypt and Iran.

So ya there is that part...

Here is a vid I seen awhile ago that talks about the dark net..



But the guy says its really bad there but some good comes out of it I suppose.. for the reason I mentioned above...

I didnt give the name of the program cause I cant remember what it is called... If I figure the name I will add it here later..

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
a reply to: rockpaperhammock

When I lived in a different country it was not that odd to see a 15 yr old girl dating an older man...perhaps even 30....some women stopped school at 15 and were looking for security...and found that in older men. It wasn't looked highly upon but no one really cared either.

They should care.
Its exploitation pure and simple, what could a 30 year old man possibly have in common or see in a 15 yo child other than view them as a sex toy.
If they really had the girls best interests at heart why not provide security by means of sponsoring their education, when the girl has finished school and is financially independant, educated and a bit older and wiser, if she still wants to be with a dirty old man then thats fine, somehow I dont think it would be the case.

Ive lived in SE Asia for awhile so I know exactly what your talking about, sadly Ive become desensitised when I see it on the streets, not 15 year olds thank god but girls 18-25 with fat old white men 50+. Absolutely disgusting and the only thing that makes it acceptable in these places is the extreme poverty

I've seen it all the time when I was living in Manila. The DOM (dirty old man) was a common sight there, and the girls willingly want to be with them, for multiple reasons.

There is also a rather large religion out there that has no problem with arranged marriages of underage young girls to older men. You don't see any of them going to jail, or any news report continually condemning it for what it is.

a reply to: andy06shake

um! they Made it!
but if they are the only ones using it.
it would all be good stuff for USSR to code brake.
so they let it get used by all.

so now thier is a lot of rubbish on it.
so any one trying to code brake it
will have a lot of stuff that is no good to them!

Here is an idea:

Forget the war on drugs and adult consenting prostitution and put those resources into creating millions of honey pot sting operations on the darkweb, just like they did to bring down Silk Road.

Oh yeah I forgot, reality is run by a bunch of scum bags who have their priorities all messed up and this would never happen. There is no place for common sense when you have corruption.

a reply to: eisegesis

i really thought that drugs would conquer but this really shows the sick world we are living in.

They said the same about Email encryption, P2P services like Napster, Kazaa. Until the corporations brought in their own music download services like iTunes.

The "I don't believe it" posts are amusing. Why don't you believe it.. because it doesn't suit your predisposed notions and wild theories?

While Tor can be used by whistleblowers, and can be used to securely browse with privacy, of COURSE it is being used by lawbreakers as well. It's a known fact it's used for the most highly illegal activities, including child abuse. Ignoring the problem because changing it wouldn't make you happy is not the right answer. Something has to be done.. opposing any proposed fix because you think that the privacy aspect outweighs the level of child abuse or other illicit activities is just WRONG.

People want no limits on what they can do on the Internet.. no regulations or control, but they expect their governments to keep it secure and safe. They want the ability to have utter privacy, yet turn a blind eye to the underbelly of the issue. They want it all, with no sacrifice. And it's sad to me, that they are willing to sacrifice the safety of children by ignoring the issue, because it might impede on the levels of freedom they want and fully expect.

a reply to: eisegesis

I would imagine those nefarious purposes include exchanging child pornography. There are some sick bastards in high places.

Exactly. Now you know why it's 80%.

But for the public. Anonymity=Pedophilia. You want anonymity? You must be a perv.

a reply to: Klassified

I think that is the angle they are going with this story. They want the public to perceive those who browse the web anonymously to be labeled pedophiles, illegal drug traders, assassins, credit card number thieves, ect.. I have no idea about the accuracy of this statistic, it seems more like fear mongering.

It appears the main reason why there is not a much larger effort by the internet police to take down child porn and those who manufacturer and distribute it is because there is not a lot of money to made in seizures and forfeitures while the drug trade has fortunes in money, assets, and drugs when a bust happens.

I use TOR frequently and when I post on other forums about it, the thread instantly becomes infected with trolls who insist that anyone who uses TOR is either a perv, in the drug trade, or somehow up to no good. Without a doubt in my mind there is a strong push to make browsing the internet anonymously to be perceived by the general public as something shameful using the old "if you don't do anything illegal then why worry about be watched" line.

I began using TOR because after installing Lightbeam on Mozilla I was alarmed by how much my browsing activities were tracked by 3rd parties. TOR elimates that. It is also essential for whisleblowers and others who wish to do good to have an outlet where they can do what needs to be done without being tracked.

Only an IDIOT would belive that
slamming down a service/internet
would actually save the victims...

Wishful thinking....

Dont missunderstand now....
Something HAS to be done...
But i SERIOUSLY doubt this
is the way to save the kids.

That IS what were talking about right????

a reply to: Miccey

This was a problem before TOR was created, this was a problem before the internet was created. If laws are made against this 'study' then it will not be for the benefit of anyone except the mega-corporations that wish to control the internet.

My opinion is law enforcement does not go after pedophile rings like they do drug rings simply because they money is not there when a bust was make. A good drug bust is worth much more than the investigation cost. A pedophile/child porn(CP is the acronym) ring bust will cost a lot of money with little if any to be recovered in asset forfeiture when a bust is made.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Klassified

I think that is the angle they are going with this story. They want the public to perceive those who browse the web anonymously to be labeled pedophiles, illegal drug traders, assassins, credit card number thieves, ect.. I have no idea about the accuracy of this statistic, it seems more like fear mongering.

It appears the main reason why there is not a much larger effort by the internet police to take down child porn and those who manufacturer and distribute it is because there is not a lot of money to made in seizures and forfeitures while the drug trade has fortunes in money, assets, and drugs when a bust happens.

I use TOR frequently and when I post on other forums about it, the thread instantly becomes infected with trolls who insist that anyone who uses TOR is either a perv, in the drug trade, or somehow up to no good. Without a doubt in my mind there is a strong push to make browsing the internet anonymously to be perceived by the general public as something shameful using the old "if you don't do anything illegal then why worry about be watched" line.

I began using TOR because after installing Lightbeam on Mozilla I was alarmed by how much my browsing activities were tracked by 3rd parties. TOR elimates that. It is also essential for whisleblowers and others who wish to do good to have an outlet where they can do what needs to be done without being tracked.

Agreed. Except I would add that law enforcement doesn't go after pedo rings because they have been told not to cross a certain line, that would lead their investigation right to the top of the food chain.

The life cycle of Empires. I'm pretty sure we're at number six.

1. The age of outburst (or pioneers).

2. The age of conquests.

3. The age of commerce.

4. The age of affluence.

5. The age of intellect.

6. The age of decadence.

7. The age of decline and collapse.

originally posted by: jrod
They want the public to perceive those who browse the web anonymously to be labeled pedophiles, illegal drug traders, assassins, credit card number thieves, ect..

Except the article in the OP isn't about browsing anonymously , it's about using the dark web and while you do one to do the other they are not the same.

I guarantee you I could browse anonymously without using TOR and you would never know about it even if I gave you information to help find those packets.

I also guarantee you I could point you to just about every portal into the dark web and you will find everything you listed just on the first nodes you hit.

Anyone claiming that a large portion of the dark web doesn't contain illicit, horrible , terrible scams-crime-drugs-porn-warez-cc numbers-other has never been there. That isn't me saying it is the only thing there but it's a large percentage of it.

originally posted by: AnIntellectualRedneck
I am calling b.s. on the whole thing. It's just an attempt to make people morally outraged enough to let authorities clamp down and take control of the Internet. That's it and that's all.

My exact thought when I saw the title. They used Ped because most people would believe that it is bad and needs to be stopped. I really doubt ti is 80%. I think more computer savy people are doing more of other dealing.

originally posted by: Baddogma
Agreed as to an ulterior motive for creating outrage.

Just because scummy people use the sewer system, shall we stop indoor plumbing?

Nothing like using Pedophilia as scapegoat to bypass terror or unjust internet bills. When it comes down the issue of Pedophilia our leaders and politicians are hiding their darkest secrets from all of us on this issue while they target the common folk for it.