Mark Passio uploads UFO video… of snow geese.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: sweord

Hopefully someone comes along with a plausible scientific explanation.



I don't think its CGI...

You can tell that, by the way it comes into focus when he moves the camera away & then back towards the phenomena.

I'm in shock that people know so little about the outdoors anymore, and are such poor observers of it, that they would not recognize something as common as this. No wonder that everybody lets industry mow down habitat at a rate of 40% of the worlds forests in the last 50 years.

Enjoy it. In 25 years these will be a myth.

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: Chadwickus

they do seem to not really go anywhere though don't they?

25 minutes of flying nowhere...is that normal? honest question.

Its due to strong headwinds.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

Having watched the first video on my iPhone it wasn't exactly hi definition.


All I could see was objects in the sky that weren't moving.




Guess that just means I will no longer watch these types of videos on my phone.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

I'll go with that... migratory birdies caught in a heckuva headwind.

Hope the poor guys make it!

a reply to: Phage

Yeah that makes more sense.

This guy will be a UFO expert now

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Newb = new

I've been around a bit too long to be a troll, although some may still think it, usually it's disinfo agent though, so it seems I've gotten a bit rusty in my hiatus.

I'll endeaver to get better.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

how fast was the wind going?

what would be considered strong?

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: CraftBuilder

how fast was the wind going?

what would be considered strong?

Snow Geese average about 80kph and up to 95kph, so I would guess somewhere in there.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

so the wind in philly at that time was 80kph+?

should be easy to check.

I thought you already had because you were talking so definitvely

its 6kph now.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Newb = new

I've been around a bit too long to be a troll, although some may still think it, usually it's disinfo agent though, so it seems I've gotten a bit rusty in my hiatus.

I'll endeaver to get better.

He likes kitty cats Charlie. You can trust him.

Lol "Birds don't fly like that". So hilarious.

Congrats to each of you who posted images of birds to show that what's being recorded in the video is birds. People really do need to get out more away from their computers and phones and TV's and just take in the planet they live on around them.

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: CraftBuilder

so the wind in philly at that time was 80kph+?

should be easy to check.

I thought you already had because you were talking so definitvely

its 6kph now.

At some altitude. Do you not know that winds speed can change rapidly with altitude? How do you think hot air balloons steer?

I know definitevly what I am seeing in the video, just as certainly as I know what a car is.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

so do you know what the wind speed was at altitude or not?

Or are you just assuming it must be strong because the birds aren't going anywhere?

originally posted by: CraftBuilder

originally posted by: skunkape23
They don't appear to be any sort of birds I'm familiar with.

Well then I don't have to ask if you're an ornithologist, or even an average birder. These are very common birds.

Wiki - Snow Goose

My first thought was snow geese, I have seen plenty of them. I live near the goose hunting capital of the country.
I have never seen them hover in one area for so long. They generally seem to move across the sky.
Maybe some sort of flocking behavior that happens further north I've never observed.
I've also never seen geese look like "glitter" or "headlights" as some of the bystanders were describing.
I don't have the bonafides to call myself an ornithologist, but, as a hunter, I have spent some time observing nature.
I'm not saying it wasn't geese, but I'm not so quick to say that it was.

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: CraftBuilder

so do you know what the wind speed was at altitude or not?

Or are you just assuming it must be strong because the birds aren't going anywhere?

I am assuming it must be strong because the birds aren't going anywhere, because it is common knowlage. Do you assume a car is moving uphill because it is under power or because there is some magic involved?

Do you really have that little common sense that this is actually a serious conversation we're having?

a reply to: CraftBuilder

the point is when I assume something I use the words "i assume"

you don't.

heres some other words you might enjoy

maybe, perhaps, probably.

originally posted by: CraftBuilder

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: Chadwickus

they do seem to not really go anywhere though don't they?

25 minutes of flying nowhere...is that normal? honest question.

Its due to strong headwinds.

LOL Oh you were serious. Sorry.

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: CraftBuilder

the point is when I assume something I use the words "i assume"

you don't.

heres some other words you might enjoy

maybe, perhaps, probably.

Not in this case.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

It seems to me the only reason you are sure they are birds is because they look like birds that are flying into a head wind.

yet the only reason you think there is a head wind is because the assumed birds aren't moving.

isn't that circular reasoning?

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: CraftBuilder

It seems to me the only reason you are sure they are birds is because they look like birds that are flying into a head wind.

yet the only reason you think there is a head wind is because the assumed birds aren't moving.

isn't that circular reasoning?

The only reason I am sure I am in my house is because it looks like I am in my house.

If you think that is anything but birds then you are truly out of your league here.