anti grav theory

They would need to create an electromagnetic pulse field I would guess. There would also need to be a shell for the ions to form on to make a shield.

I don't know how you would accomplish all that though. The field could be way outside of the shell, sort of like a high voltage forms a ring around a power wire.

originally posted by: kloejen
Nice thought. But magnets have a lifespam, and they need to be "charged". Otherwise it would probably work?
magnets

Hey, umm, where in you supplied link does it actually say that magnets need to be "charged"?

a reply to: muckleduck

All im saying is take no answer as truth. All i have done is giving a gut-feeling, about my "weird" personal beliefs.
If you really REALLY want to know, do the research, because nobody can just give you the answers.
You are gonna be disappointed on the way, and many times feel vindicated.. but you have to stay with the truth, not wishful thinking.

The truth shall set you free

originally posted by: SpunGCake
a reply to: muckleduck

3 rings 1 inside the other 2 for the gravity and the third for x,y,z
forgot to add the word gyroscopic.

that may work for forward motion and sideways but what abot every other direction? imagine a cube and put a large ring of magnets on each face, then another smaller ring of magnets inside each ring, opposing eachother, it would still need some form of motor to send eletricicty do different rings as needed for direction and speed to slow down u would just turn off the rear rings and activate the front ones, in theory anyways , would somehow have to make it so that one set of rings wasnt physically touching the craft though on each face, to provide some sort of thrusting motion of the craft, if u were to pulse the magnets in bursts with electricity u could slowly build up the momentum of the discs till they hit peak rotation speeds, i dont see how this relates to a gyroscope though as thats more to do with pendulums and shifting centre of gravity isnt it?

a reply to: kloejen

Why don't you heed your own advice and do do a bit of research, as opposed to expressing your 'gut-feeling' and "weird" personal beliefs when responding to, and by default, dismissing others input and most likely 'qualified' opinions?

wrap tin foil around a rubber band and stick it under a bar magnet for 5 minutes then flick it across the room and if it goes up there you have it.

originally posted by: kloejen
a reply to: muckleduck

All im saying is take no answer as truth. All i have done is giving a gut-feeling, about my "weird" personal beliefs.

If you really REALLY want to know, do the research, because nobody can just give you the answers.
You are gonna be disappointed on the way, and many times feel vindicated.. but you have to stay with the truth, not wishful thinking.

The truth shall set you free

for sure to be succesful in this life in any aspect u must first learn to fail and learn from it and move forward, id rather be proved wrong than believe im right about something if it is incorrect.

ive sort of just accepted that i will never have a full understanding on the earths history or how everything works, no matter how hard i try.

im gonna try and cram as much info into this brain before it ends up in a ditch though :p wish i had time to visit all these places to actually have a good look around and see if theres truth to the claims though.

we certainly live in interesting times, just wish humans would learn to share info rather than keep it for themselves just to further their own agendas.

if every nation had a single space prog to work on then there would be no qualms about budgets etc.

humans are too greedy by nature though and tend to want everything for ourselves, which only leads to history repeating itself, whatever reason that all that ancient knowledge no longer is with us today is bound to repeat itself.

everything we think we know could infact be wrong.

quantum physics i know not much about but what i do know i wish i didnt lol, the holographic universe theory is a wierd one for sure.

but if energy doesnt die and only changes then by definition we are surrounded by the stuff, we just need to find a way to use it lol.

i just hope its in my lifetime that we make some better way of producing energy than fossil fuels, solar wind and wave are good but not for transport, the panels we have at the moment arent good enough to power a decent sized vehicle but maybe in 50 years or so who knows where it will lead.


have u heard of thorium? apparently its a cleanversion of nuclear material but cant produce weapons grade with it so studies were scrapped.

wonder what else they brushed under the rug, they certainly arent doing it for the benifit of mankind.

originally posted by: AthlonSavage
wrap tin foil around a rubber band and stick it under a bar magnet for 5 minutes then flick it across the room and if it goes up there you have it.

not even remotely close to anything discussed in this thread, not sure if sarcasm.

considering tinfoil holds next to no magnetic qualities i dont see what point your trying to make.

originally posted by: muckleduck
for sure to be succesful in this life in any aspect u must first learn to fail and learn from it and move forward, id rather be proved wrong than believe im right about something if it is incorrect.

ive sort of just accepted that i will never have a full understanding on the earths history or how everything works, no matter how hard i try.

im gonna try and cram as much info into this brain before it ends up in a ditch though :p wish i had time to visit all these places to actually have a good look around and see if theres truth to the claims though.

A wise man once said "i now know so much, that i have realized, i don't know anything" - he was right you know
A good friend told me "Always improve on yourself, but do never ever get so arrogant, that you belive you achieved perfectness. " - he was drunk, but i consider it correct

originally posted by: muckleduck
we certainly live in interesting times, just wish humans would learn to share info rather than keep it for themselves just to further their own agendas.

if every nation had a single space prog to work on then there would be no qualms about budgets etc.

What if the whole world worked together in the same spirit ? OMG that would be communism?
What if we all worked to eradicate hunger in Africa? COMMUNISM! lol

Because the only way you can define "rich", is by having "poor". So by definition we keep Africa poor, so we can go about being rich. We wouldn't have them to go compete with our markets now, would "we" ?
Apparently we have enough trouble laboring Asia for peanuts these days...
China believed in working hard and honest, why shouldn't they be compensated? Ohh crap ... what if all of Asia got their own home and a car like the folks in the US .. global warming? lol

originally posted by: muckleduck
humans are too greedy by nature though and tend to want everything for ourselves, which only leads to history repeating itself, whatever reason that all that ancient knowledge no longer is with us today is bound to repeat itself.

everything we think we know could infact be wrong.

All we need to do if change our mindset. I dont need a million pieces of paper to be happy.

originally posted by: muckleduck
quantum physics i know not much about but what i do know i wish i didnt lol, the holographic universe theory is a wierd one for sure.

I keep telling myself its not a holographic universe, its pornographic. Afterall it started with a huge bang, and the sole purpose is to reproduce/survive...

originally posted by: muckleduck
but if energy doesnt die and only changes then by definition we are surrounded by the stuff, we just need to find a way to use it lol.

i just hope its in my lifetime that we make some better way of producing energy than fossil fuels, solar wind and wave are good but not for transport, the panels we have at the moment arent good enough to power a decent sized vehicle but maybe in 50 years or so who knows where it will lead.

have u heard of thorium? apparently its a cleanversion of nuclear material but cant produce weapons grade with it so studies were scrapped.

wonder what else they brushed under the rug, they certainly arent doing it for the benifit of mankind.

This is again based on what we know. Thorium and other elements that can only exist in a fraction of a second, like leptons, if you wish. Dark matter/energy is still to be explored... yea, alot we still need to know.

originally posted by: muckleduck

originally posted by: PrinceRupertsDog
a reply to: muckleduck


That violates the conservation of momentum law.

which part? the counterweighting of the dynamo or the magnets?

on a side not would 2 discs of magnets set side by side but tilted at a slight angle away from eachother would this not cause both discs to spin against eachother thus creating a free form of motor? wouldnt be very powerfull, maybe enough to keep a few lightbulbs going if u turned it into a generator, the only way it would stop is by deteroeration or by physically stopping it.

I don't think magnetism is the source of anti-gravity propulsion. If that were the case, then there would be random magnets floating around the planet at any given time. There is another explanation. Probably one equally as simple. That information just hasn't been leaked to the public yet.

a reply to: muckleduck
You never heard of John Hutchinson?

Check out his experiments on video.. .he has had this happening for over 20 years

just woke up, was watchin vids on youtube last night and no1 has made what im talking about in my posts, im gonna ggonna try draw it out so everyone can try understand what i see in my head, not a great artist though so dont expect much lol

originally posted by: muckleduck
ive always kinda thought that magnets would be the obvious answer to this, or electro magnets, have 2 cirlces of magnets spinn them in opposite directions, 1 smaller ring of magnets on the inside of a large circle of magnets, spinning these against eachother would cause a sort of lift wouldnt it?

No. No, it wouldn't. Unless you shape them just right so that the magnets act as fan blades, and cause an updraft of air. THAT might lift something very low density, like a piece of tissue.

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: muckleduck
ive always kinda thought that magnets would be the obvious answer to this, or electro magnets, have 2 cirlces of magnets spinn them in opposite directions, 1 smaller ring of magnets on the inside of a large circle of magnets, spinning these against eachother would cause a sort of lift wouldnt it?

No. No, it wouldn't. Unless you shape them just right so that the magnets act as fan blades, and cause an updraft of air. THAT might lift something very low density, like a piece of tissue.

yea that does make sense, without actual magnets infront of me im just doin it all in my head, did think there would need to be some sort of magnet outside the craft to repel the magnets inside to desired location, even if my idea was just to spark someone elses interest and they figuire it out id be pleased lol, someonw out there has this knowledge tucked in their head and probably dont even know it

sorry but magnets and gravity are Not the same at all.
yes earth has a magnetic field.
try this get a small precise scales.
put a powerful magnet on it.
then turn it over. no differences!

they dont rely know what gravity IS!
they know what it does.
makes apples Fall!

a reply to: muckleduck


I like this one better. youtu.be... Make this bigger and strap a alternator or generator to it and you got yourself a gravity spin wheel generator.

originally posted by: greenday1978

originally posted by: muckleduck

originally posted by: PrinceRupertsDog

a reply to: muckleduck





That violates the conservation of momentum law.

which part? the counterweighting of the dynamo or the magnets?



on a side not would 2 discs of magnets set side by side but tilted at a slight angle away from eachother would this not cause both discs to spin against eachother thus creating a free form of motor? wouldnt be very powerfull, maybe enough to keep a few lightbulbs going if u turned it into a generator, the only way it would stop is by deteroeration or by physically stopping it.

I don't think magnetism is the source of anti-gravity propulsion. If that were the case, then there would be random magnets floating around the planet at any given time. There is another explanation. Probably one equally as simple. That information just hasn't been leaked to the public yet.

hint: when you go outside at night you see it every day. Every day.

originally posted by: pseudoless
a reply to: kloejen

Why don't you heed your own advice and do do a bit of research, as opposed to expressing your 'gut-feeling' and "weird" personal beliefs when responding to, and by default, dismissing others input and most likely 'qualified' opinions?

If only there were textbooks filled to the brim with equations that describe how magnets work. Then we wouldn't need to do all of this speculating!

originally posted by: buddha
sorry but magnets and gravity are Not the same at all.
yes earth has a magnetic field.
try this get a small precise scales.
put a powerful magnet on it.
then turn it over. no differences!

they dont rely know what gravity IS!
they know what it does.
makes apples Fall!

we do know what gravity is, defying it is what we dont know though

due to the xmas season doesnt look like ill have access to go buy some materials and mess bout with a few experiments for a week or so.

if our minds can concieve the notion of anti gravity it should be possible, we just need to fill the blanks in

Try this Exsperiment: Blow up a balloon, put a string on it, wind up string, rub ballon across your hair while you standing on cardboard,let string unwind and put the balloon next to the small paper squares, next to round punch outs and see the differences. What do they do? Did you know you can bend water with static electricity. What happens when you have a rotating static charge? What does static charge have to do with hutchingson effects? What does frequency have to do with this? Put them all to gether and then what happens. A rotating static charge at a high frequency causes a separation or deformation of materials, each different materials vibrating at different speeds. causes all the hutchingson effects. Also a magnetic "effect" occurrs. Ask hutchingson if he ever felt a vibrational buzz before and an attraction or repulsion effect. I do not know how to exsplain the feeling ,so i will say a vibrational buzz on your body. I know this by exsperience, just before getting struck by lightning.
A true story: Me and this kid went to observe the oncomming storm clouds and walked to the end of the driveway. we were there for a good 5 min. about watching the lightning flashes and the cool breeze of air. We turned around to walk back to the house when i felt my hair stand up and hers too. Then i felt a buzz vibration on my body. Then a flash of light and a Very,Very loud BOOM. We both saw these little orbs flying around about the size of a marble. I was scared to death to move and then we ran up the drive into the house. I said her hair stood up and my skin and body was buzzing. She asked if i seen the balls of light. INTERESTING.