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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: _Del_
Law after law? Just to force the Pres. to veto? Just to make him look bad?
What does that accomplish, exactly?
It's really not too late for these idiots, other wise known as the Democrats, and Republicans; to start to work together for the benefit of the nation as whole...
originally posted by: _Del_
The graphic showing the 249-179 House majority didn't last long on the screen. Heard a lot about the Senate yesterday and some about the Governors, but I didn't realize how big the gains in the House were.
Maybe Congress will actually pass a budget the next two years. They need to just pass law after law through House and Senate and let Obama veto them all. No more not letting bills come to vote so Obama doesn't have to veto them, and the Dems in the Senate didn't have to publicly support or reject them.
I suspect, however, that the Republicans will completely drop the ball, attempt endlessly to reach compromise with a President unwilling to compromise, accomplish virtually nothing on their own other than finger pointing, self-destruct on lightning rod issues instead of governing and then throw up their hands in 2016 and say, "Well, we tried". And then they'll be surprised when the public doesn't particularly care why they didn't accomplish anything, only that they didn't.
Sufficiently cynical?
originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
you know i kinda half way expected him to come out and say "shame on you voters that placed the U.S. in Republicans hands."
instead he implied that the 2/3 that didn't vote are at fault.
originally posted by: loam
a reply to: HUMBLEONE
One of the longest Q&A sessions he's ever given. Evidence he knows he's screwed the pooch, imo.
Now he's playing the elder statesman, knowing full well he plans to be the best autocrat he can possibly be.
Nauseating.
ETA:
"It doesn't make me mopey. It makes me feel energized."
So now they know that the SLAVES are pissed off and tired of this institutionalized parasitism... so now they'll act all concerned....yada...yada..blah.. blah..blah.. still operating out of the same old tired playbook. It does usually work though...
Remember these closing words.
His comments that he isn't running for President again, they have an under-handed feeling of "I won't have to run, I'm staying in this office, by decree, or by design".
originally posted by: loam
Straight from the horse's mouth. He'll generously use his veto power and move forward unilaterally.
Strap on the seat belts. This is going to be ugly.
Live Link
originally posted by: loam
WOW.
MSNBC pundits criticizing Obama and calling Boehner and McConnell deal makers.
Did I just wake up in alternate universe??
originally posted by: Lyxdeslic
I mean... If the republicans keep him from doing anything and he uses executive orders to make things happen, I can't be mad. .
originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
you know i kinda half way expected him to come out and say "shame on you voters that placed the U.S. in Republicans hands."
originally posted by: FlyersFan
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
originally posted by: Lyxdeslic
I mean... If the republicans keep him from doing anything and he uses executive orders to make things happen, I can't be mad. .
So if a Republican was in the Oval Office and he/she used his/her executive order to 'make things happen', would you be mad then?
That's the problem with moving forward unilaterally.
When a dem does it, the dems applaud but the republicans complain.
When a republican does it, the republicans applaud but the dems complain.
No one should rule by executive order. That's not how the system is supposed to work.As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.