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originally posted by: Nechash
a reply to: orangetom1999
No. Any church can preach whatever it wants to whomever will listen, but if they choose to do that, they pay taxes just like any other for-profit business. If; however, they want to be considered a charity and they want to avoid paying taxes, then they must follow certain guidelines among which are separation of church and state policies. This is almost never enforced. How many preachers from tax exempt organizations have you seen speaking out against laws and government policies? This is basically designed to prevent a church from being turned into a campaigning mechanism for someone's political ambitions as has been done in so many other countries, generally by wanna be dictators.
I'd like to see any situation where a church has been threatened by government for its interpretation of biblical passages.
What you're pointing out is a bit of abstract theorising which makes no practical difference.
Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.
originally posted by: orangetom1999
Coming out of the Houston Mayor's fiasco and attempt to censor a church/churches and Ministers...comes this little nugget.
I was surprised about this article because I knew that the 501 c 3 tax exempt status for Churches was a phony. It is merely a way to get around separation of church and state on the part of government.
What has been done for years and years now it that Churches file for a tax number under the government issued 501 c 3 status.
What this means at law..is that this church with this number...the church is now a state created corporation..a creature of the state. Being now a creature of the state..these churches can now be controlled and regulated as any other corporation.
If a church teaches and preaches something government does not like or of which government does not approve they can be censored, audited as a threat...or control measure and forced into compliance.
This means that a Church can be controlled in what they teach and preach and are not going to be allowed to teach and preach the Whole Council of God.
This......is not separation of church and state. ..it is control and censorship.
The author in this article does not go sufficiently far in their explaination..but does mention that churches should not have 501 c 3 status.
Churches should be tax immune ..not tax exempt. Churches should never be a creature of the state. A state corporation.
Here is the link...
This is one of the few times I have ever seen an article even mentioning this line of thought.
If you give money in church and the minute you file that statement for claiming it as charity on your part and you get it back from the government, that means you have not separated that church from the state and are using the government to control what the church teaches.
Are churches really tax exempt? Not when they are required for tax purposes to accommodate people getting tax returns Not only that, pastors are paid income from churches and are required to pay taxes on that income. So there is no true separation of church and state, because the state still takes his money.
If it were true that churches should not teach or preach about certain things because it is political, then churches would never be able to say anything because everything is political.
Do people want politically correct churches or do they want to allow freedom of speech and religious expression?
I believe the true motive is separation of church and society, and if that is really what it is about then who is doing the lobbying to accomplish that? We could go the way of the USSR, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and China, if that's what you want. But then you would have to be living in a society that doesn't allow you to speak or express any views whatsoever.