Alert: Patriot Act 2 on Verge of Passing Says Ron Paul, page 1
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Topic started on 8-12-2004 @ 05:46 PM by TrueAmerican
www.prisonplanet.com...


At approximately 3:30pm today, Ron Paul's press secretary Jeff Deist called Alex Jones to warn him that the legislation that encompasses the national ID card and Patriot Act 2 provisions was on the verge of passing the House tonight.

Deist stated that the bill and what it means for America could be described in a word as 'tyranny'.

Deist's tone was the most concerned that Alex had ever known in his years of communication with Ron Paul's office. Alex made it clear how upset Desit was and that the situation reminded him of a 'war room atmosphere'. Deist and Ron Paul are desperate to mobilize the alternative media before the bill reaches the Senate tomorrow.


This appears to be exclusive, from prisonplanet.


reply posted on 8-12-2004 @ 07:15 PM by Bleys
From your link TA:

The bill is S 2845 or 'intelligence reform' and the sub-section with the national ID card provisions is 7212.


The bill that prison planet identifies is the National Intelligence Director bill and not the Patriot Act II which is identified as the
Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003. And I think the National Intelligence Bill was passed yesterday after some serious negotiations with republicans who were against certain military provisions.

The second thing is S2845 is a senate bill and not a house bill.

And finally - there is no section 7212 in S2845.

I checked the Congressional website and the Patriot Act II is not even out of committe let alone ready for a vote.


B.

Senate Bill 2845



[edit on 12/8/04 by Bleys]


reply posted on 8-12-2004 @ 07:19 PM by TrueAmerican
bleys, it is a secretive bill, according to what prisonplanet's website is saying:

www.infowars.com...

It is important to note that no member of Congress was
allowed to see the first Patriot Act before its
passage, and that no debate was tolerated by the House
and Senate leadership. The intentions of the White
House and Speaker Hastert concerning Patriot Act II
appear to be a carbon copy replay of the events that
led to the unprecedented passage of the first Patriot
Act.

There are two glaring areas that need to be looked at
concerning this new legislation:

1. The secretive tactics being used by the White House
and Speaker Hastert to keep even the existence of this
legislation secret would be more at home in Communist
China than in the United States. The fact that Dick
Cheney publicly managed the steamroller passage of the
first Patriot Act, insuring that no one was allowed to
read it and publicly threatening members of Congress
that if they didn?t vote in favor of it that they
would be blamed for the next terrorist attack, is by
the White House?' own definition terrorism. The move
to clandestinely craft and then bully passage of any
legislation by the Executive Branch is clearly an
impeachable offence.

2. The second Patriot Act is a mirror image of powers
that Julius Caesar and Adolf Hitler gave themselves.
Whereas the First Patriot Act only gutted the First,
Third, Fourth and Fifth Amendments, and seriously
damaged the Seventh and the Tenth, the Second Patriot
Act reorganizes the entire Federal government as well
as many areas of state government under the
dictatorial control of the Justice Department, the
Office of Homeland Security and the FEMA NORTHCOM
military command. The Domestic Security Enhancement
Act 2003, also known as the Second Patriot Act is by
its very structure the definition of dictatorship.


Read the link, there is plenty more.

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