The best UFO pic I've ever seen!

Sorry but i agree with mazon, he prolly said it just to be contraversial but if u inspect the pics closely you can see that the lights are infront of some of the twigs of the branches, and how can this be so if it is behind them? it's not a great fake, if i were the one ho made them i would have tried harder

had wondered about that but was n`t sure if the photography had produced this effect, light can do some funny things in photos

Actually, I think the faking here is pretty impressive (assuming that they are fake, which is about 99% likely. )

If you look at the twig on the red light, it is clearly in front of it but only on the edge of the bright area. When a twig goes through the centre of a light source it's entirely occluded. On normal film this is due to light "bleeding" across the edge of the twig. This does occur with digital cameras to a lesser extent. To test it, try taking a photo of a phone line with the sun behind it. Either side of the sun you'll see the line, in the middle it'll be "covered" by the light from the sun.

So that first pick is technically very good if it's faked. The only slight dubiousness is why the JPEG artifacts are so much greater on the side twigs, compared to the twig that reaches in front of the saucer...

The analyst of the photos mentioned the light in front of the branch and IMO a hoaxer this good wouldnt have made such a mistake. I opened the magnified image in Microsoft paint and decided to try putting the branch in.

Here is my picture


The branch is obviously fake but someone with more time (I did it in a minute) and better software (Microsoft Paint) would make it a lot better.

When I opened it and magnified it


I found that you could see the branch through the dimmer edge of the light.

This is not a hoax, and it would be very intelligent for the aliens to use airplane style lights as camoflage.

XAOS

I was just abot to say what Xaos did, really, you should all read what information is given, instead of seeing a picture and jumping at the first possibility you imagine.


Mazon, that was an extremely irratating and quite stupid post, as everybody here has said, you cannot claim to have proof and expect us all to think "ohh, he says he has proof, never said what it is but it doesnt matter, lets believe him anyway" It seems that most on this board are more intelligent than that and like to think for themselves. Lets hear your proof, if not i think you will find it very hard to be taken seriously again on here..


Cassini, I'm really sorry to bring this up mate but its been bugging me for months now. I like you, I think you are a great poster but please stop with the "was n't". I have no right at all commenting on anyones spelling or grammer as I am completely ignorant of it all, but it is either "will not" or "won't", the one you type "will n't" makes no sense at all! Unless you just don't like the letter "O"

I hope you see that this isn't a dig, just a bit of fun.

Cheers mate.

"Cassini, I'm really sorry to bring this up mate but its been bugging me for months now. I like you, I think you are a great poster but please stop with the "was n't". I have no right at all commenting on anyones spelling or grammer as I am completely ignorant of it all, but it is either "will not" or "won't", the one you type "will n't" makes no sense at all! Unless you just don't like the letter "O""

a proper spanking for me hey! I shall try to amend my ways

The pictures are good ,but I have a nagging concern when the person who takes them can't be contacted or refuses futher information?

they normally don`t because as you see from here this stuff is widely discussed and telling everyone who you are would undoubtedly lead to much hassling

Just a quick question/observation...

Where are the 'aircraft anti-collision lights' everyone keeps talking about??? I see three large white lights on the UNDERSIDE of the craft and one smaller red one towards its port(?) side.

Real aircraft lights are red, white, and green... they are not all the same color.... and, most importantly, they would never all be put on the underside of a craft. Anti-collision lights are ALWAYS put on the edges of the craft, as having them tucked into the body does not give an observer a sense of dimension/size at night.

To me, it seems that these lights are involved in the propulsion, somehow. They're just simply too large, and in the wrong place, to be navigation or anti-collision devices. Why put anti-collision lights on the BOTTOM of your craft... how would that prevent a cessna from barrelling into you?

I admit, though, that I have no idea what the red light is. As its off-set from the rest of the craft's symmetry, my hunch is that it's some type of 'addon' sensor or equipment pod.

And, as for X craft, there was a lot of work in lenticular aircraft in the 50s.. still, the ones we know about all had either jet or piston propulsion.

Jim

IMO They are real and not a hoax. These type of UFO's have become more common in sightings. Firstly they were mostly seen at night and people thought that they were in the flying Triangles class but after a few day time sighting they can be seen to be saucer shape. They are good clear images of a UFO but with most of the photos that show a good clear image people instantly say FAKE because they are used to seeing blury out of focus images.

And, as for X craft, there was a lot of work in lenticular aircraft in the 50s.. still, the ones we know about all had either jet or piston propulsion. Posted by Onlyinmydreams

That is very true, that the ones we DID know about were essentially conventional propulsion systems used in an attempt to come up with a VTOL/STOL capability.

They were also used as a cover for the development of MHD/EG propulsion aircraft associated with Project Winterhaven.

www.geocities.com...

The Pearl Harbor Demonstration. Around 1953, Brown conducted a demonstration for top brass from the military. He flew a pair of 3 foot diameter discs around a 50 foot course tethered to a central pole. Energized with 150,000 volts and emitting ions from their leading edge, they attained speeds of several hundred miles per hour. The subject was thereafter classified.

Project Winterhaven. Brown submitted a proposal to the Pentagon for the development of a Mach 3 disc shaped electrogravitic fighter craft. Drawings of its basic design are shown in one of his patents. They are essentially large scale versions of his tethered test discs.

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Wow nice find. That sounds very Tesla-like to me, in terms of the technology. It seems right with the time period as well.

Originally posted by xaos
The analyst of the photos mentioned the light in front of the branch and IMO a hoaxer this good wouldnt have made such a mistake.The branch is obviously fake but someone with more time (I did it in a minute) and better software (Microsoft Paint) would make it a lot better.

XAOS

I can explain the branch thing (the analyser on the site explained it already): If you take a stick or something thin and hold it up to the light, it'll look like it is cut in two peaces...common basic physics!

well......cassini was saying that thier were 3 lights on the first pic and 4 on the bottom...thiers 4 in the first..including the red..i could be wrong though...maybe they can change colors..white to red...to whatever..

Whoever posted about the physics of light (I forgot!) is right.

When bright lights are placed behind a solid object in the foreground, such as a branch/twig in this case, the light can "envelope" the object causing it to look like the light is infront of it.

Have a look at the 2nd picture and note the TOP light on the UFO. Do you notice how the branch sorta "disappears" as it moves infront of the light?

I wouldnt call this fake based on Xaos's observation. Im not saying it's real either. But his reasoning (however obvious and probably appropriate) is not really enough to discount this as fake.

Keep questioning though. Thats the best we can do.

Cheers

[Edited on 7-6-2003 by cargo]

the branch thing is pretty irrelevant, as if it was fake, the branch could have been removed or not included, the point is that i bet you, i could make a fake ufo pic and it would look just as genuine as any of the suppossed real ones that i have seen.

It is too easy to fake photographs like this today, i'd have to see it first hand to swallow it.

Stalking Panther is right about the branch thing...If you hold a thin object up to a bright light it kinda disappears.
I don't know what the red light is though...
NC

The first picture a fake? I don't think so, due to an experience I had 6 months ago. I saw a black triangle ufo with lights like this but had 4 white lights, a light in each corner of the triangle, one in the middle and a red light next to the middle white light. I wouldn't say it's the TR-3B plane the gov't has, it's different that this. More streamlined and went from a extremely excellerated speed to hardly moving at all. Anyway I can't tell you locations because I've gotten into enough trouble and wasn't anywhere near where I'm at for the moment. Wish I had a photo to post showing all of you.
Thought I would tell you about this anyway.
So who knows if these similar designed craft are gov't owned with alien technology or is fully alien, I don't really know but would guess it's the first ,considering the location I saw it.

I am very interested to find out the validity of this picture as well. In the summer of 1994 I had a sighting which involved two objects apparently interacting with one another. One of them closely resembled the object in this picture. It was spherical, translucent, and internal luminated.

I hope to learn more on this.

Valhall

Did the two UFOs you observed have the same light pattern as the one in the first pic, 3 white lights with a red next to one of them? If this is a new kind of gov't design, they seem to be using the same pattern with different shaped craft. I'm not sure about the origins of this craft but I saw this triangle on the West coast in a dessert location 6 months ago. I wish I could poke around more for additional information but the last time I did it landed me in lots of trouble so can't say to much about it. But I would bet the TR-3B's partial design has a lot to do with it, maybe even your ufo design.