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The Peace Mission-2014 drill, being conducted from August 24 to 29 in China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, was declared open by Deputy Chief of Chinese People's Liberation Army's General Staff Wang Ning, who is supervising the military training.
The war games have attracted a record number of troops and military hardware, never previously gathered in one place before by the SCO member states.
from infantry troops and special forces, the international task force has been strengthened with air defense systems, radio-electronic warfare units and aviation.
The Russian army has come to China with a tactical group of the 36th Motor Rifle Brigade from the Eastern Military District and an aviation wing of the third Command of Air Force and Air Defense Troops.
The Russian contingent at Peace Mission-2014 consists of 1,000 plus servicemen, 60 armored vehicles, (including 40 BMP-2 fully amphibious crawling traction infantry combat vehicles), 13 main T-72 battle tanks, more than 20 artillery and missile systems, such as self-propelled artillery SAU 2S3M guns, multiple BM-21 rocket launch systems, more than 60 vehicles of different assignments, 8 Mi-8 AMTSh helicopter gunships, 4 Sukhoi Su-25 assault jets and two Il-76 military transport airplanes.
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India, Pakistan, Iran and Mongolia to join SCO
At present, the SCO has started to counterbalance NATO’s role in Asia. Consequently, these countries want to take part in the SCO in the capacity of safeguard of their interests. At present, the SCO is strengthening because the American policy towards Asia has been excessively tough and is aimed at suppressing their interests. The American policy contradicts the interests of Asian countries. In this sense, it’s quite natural that India, Pakistan, Iran and Mongolia expressed desire to join the SCO. There is another aspect that has to be taken into account. The growing role of China in the world shows that many countries are afraid of directly cooperating with it without outside backing. In this context, SCO enters in the capacity of guarantor that China will honour the interests of these countries in the framework of the existing SCO guidelines,” Maslov said.
India also wanted to diversify its arms suppliers as Moscow was proving to be an unreliable provider with extended delivery deadlines, exponential cost increases, and hurdles in transferring technology
In response to India looking beyond Moscow for arms, Russia is considering an attack helicopter sale to India’s regional rival Pakistan.
So today we find these two great powers, Russia and China, recently driven into one another’s arms by the endless crusades of the West to undermine them. Together they constitute a great power center outside the control of the U.S. Empire. Bent on global domination, the U.S. cannot tolerate such a defiant and alternative center of power. The reason is that such a center provides an alternative for others who would gain their independence from the West. Such an organization as BRICS would not exist, or if it did would not mean much, without the “R” and the “C.”
But the battle against colonialism has not ended. Certainly India, most of Latin America, much of East Asia and most of Africa have yet to break free of the West and develop their full economic potential. (They certainly have not escaped underdevelopment while in the embrace of the West.) In some places governments defiant of the U.S. have emerged as in Bolivia, Venezuela and Ecuador. Where once the U.S. fought battles against insurgent liberation movements, now it fights to bring down defiant governments or leaders, another insight of Bricmont. That is also a feature of neo-imperialism. Some, like Mossadegh, Allende and Chavez, were genuine democrats who wished to bring their people out of poverty. Others have not been so democracy minded, but defiance of the West has been the common denominator for those whom the West seeks to destroy. As the world knows by now, “democracy” and “human rights” have nothing to do with U.S. neo-imperial strategy. The two cross paths only by accident.
originally posted by: MrSpad
China finds Russia to be useful at picking away at US global domination. China finds the US to be useful as its largest trade partner, to keep ocean trade free and flowing and at keeping the rest of Asia inline and from getting trigger happy.
originally posted by: bjarneorn
originally posted by: MrSpad
China finds Russia to be useful at picking away at US global domination. China finds the US to be useful as its largest trade partner, to keep ocean trade free and flowing and at keeping the rest of Asia inline and from getting trigger happy.
Your assessment here is wrong, although I agree on most of what you say.
First of all, let us take Russia and it's future. Russia not taking on NATO, over Ukraine is a Russian tactical military error. They're stupid, not to do it ... because their backs are no longer covered. NATO is moving in, on the other side. Russia has no imperial interests despite US/EU booming this, as Russia just sold it's only aircraft carrier. A carrier, it never finished building. Without an aircraft carrier, Russia has no ability to support it's troops outside of Russia and it's territories.
Russia is controlled by its ogliarchy, which is a criminal institution with close ties to the west. Remember, the US used the mafia in WWII. And has been allowing them to traffic opium ever since.
India and Pakistan, are two nations that have no relevance. India's populace is huge, but it's vital factor in the world is close to none. The only party here, that has any "powder" in it, is Iran. Now, Iran with Pakistan is a threat to India. This makes India a country that has enemies on all it's borders, including Russia. In a conflict, India will chose China, because China is the only country that can provide it with any border security.
Beyond Iran, you have Japan. Japan is a very stragedic country. It has a lot to offer, and it's ties with the US, makes an imbalance in Asia. The question here, about China's future ... is how they handle Japan. This will require a very subtle balance between threats and support. Japan, is also a key for China. This is where the battle will be fought ... if China can win over Japan, it's bye bye US ... go home Yankee.
So, Japan is the key to Asia ... all other nations, are proxies and not important. A war with them, isn't even of interest. Neither on the short term, or long term. Without Japan, the US will run out of real foothold in Asia. Japan, not Korea, is the anchor for the US. Ousting the US out of the rest of Asia, and sinking their little Island in the Indian ocean is a peace of cake after that.
The question is, weather China is actually on par with any such role. And I say "no" it isn't.
My take on things, is the following ... the US, Britain, France, Russia and China make up the five arms of the Pentagram, which the Pentagon is the center of. The nuclear technology was shared with these nations, on purpose by the US. And these nations, despite their "apparent" conflicts, never truly engage. They engage by proxy, but my take is that this engagement is restricted out of purpose.
Take Russia as an example. Such an idiotic mistake, not to take on NATO over Ukraine. Russia would win a jiffie, and it would mean a total collapse of Europe. Russia would have stood out as a victorer ... valiant. Instead, Putin comes along and STEALS the presidential elections. Followed by a new "Soviet" era of politics, of backing down against the US. Despite the "obvious" conflict of interest against Russia itself ... but the outright action taken by Putin, will most likely result in a "Russia collapse", in the end.
China is the same way ... it's a real question, weather China will ever go against the US. I seriously doubt it, I consider all these 5 nations, being backed up by the same financial interest group. They are 5 arms, of the same center ... and they're there to fool the rest of us. Because no matter what nations we belong to, we have different interests. And those who do not follow US interests, will chose Russian, for example. They're just unaware, that they are choosing the same side ... just with a different face.
And I take Ukraine as complete proof of my logic. There is no sane reason, why Russia should back down in Ukraine. None, what so ever. And there is no sane reason, why just prior to the Ukraine conflict, Putin steals the presidency. And we can all see with our bare eyes, the outright dislike amongst the Russian military and public over the decision, to let it go. A decision, that goes straight into the face of the Russians. That now have hundreds of thousands of refugees passing their borders, tens of thousands of dead ... and it's all downplayed as collateral damage in the west.
If this was happening against any other nation, but Russia and Putin ... it would be all out war.
And I say Russia is using the SCO, as a ruse for the "angry" Russian part. To direct them towards China, unaware that they are embracing a party that never will amount to anti-NATO or anti-US policy.
The big question in this, is China ... does it have the guts, to claim glory? does it have the intellectual capacity, to plan ahead for a victory?
Or will China, just be another Soviet Union ... a focal point for dissidents, while the world is being taken away from under their feet.
That is what I wonder.