originally posted by: MrSpad
China finds Russia to be useful at picking away at US global domination. China finds the US to be useful as its largest trade partner, to keep ocean
trade free and flowing and at keeping the rest of Asia inline and from getting trigger happy.
Your assessment here is wrong, although I agree on most of what you say.
First of all, let us take Russia and it's future. Russia not taking on NATO, over Ukraine is a Russian tactical military error. They're stupid, not
to do it ... because their backs are no longer covered. NATO is moving in, on the other side. Russia has no imperial interests despite US/EU booming
this, as Russia just sold it's only aircraft carrier. A carrier, it never finished building. Without an aircraft carrier, Russia has no ability to
support it's troops outside of Russia and it's territories.
Russia is controlled by its ogliarchy, which is a criminal institution with close ties to the west. Remember, the US used the mafia in WWII. And has
been allowing them to traffic opium ever since.
India and Pakistan, are two nations that have no relevance. India's populace is huge, but it's vital factor in the world is close to none. The only
party here, that has any "powder" in it, is Iran. Now, Iran with Pakistan is a threat to India. This makes India a country that has enemies on all
it's borders, including Russia. In a conflict, India will chose China, because China is the only country that can provide it with any border
Beyond Iran, you have Japan. Japan is a very stragedic country. It has a lot to offer, and it's ties with the US, makes an imbalance in Asia. The
question here, about China's future ... is how they handle Japan. This will require a very subtle balance between threats and support. Japan, is
also a key for China. This is where the battle will be fought ... if China can win over Japan, it's bye bye US ... go home Yankee.
So, Japan is the key to Asia ... all other nations, are proxies and not important. A war with them, isn't even of interest. Neither on the short
term, or long term. Without Japan, the US will run out of real foothold in Asia. Japan, not Korea, is the anchor for the US. Ousting the US out of
the rest of Asia, and sinking their little Island in the Indian ocean is a peace of cake after that.
The question is, weather China is actually on par with any such role. And I say "no" it isn't.
My take on things, is the following ... the US, Britain, France, Russia and China make up the five arms of the Pentagram, which the Pentagon is the
center of. The nuclear technology was shared with these nations, on purpose by the US. And these nations, despite their "apparent" conflicts, never
truly engage. They engage by proxy, but my take is that this engagement is restricted out of purpose.
Take Russia as an example. Such an idiotic mistake, not to take on NATO over Ukraine. Russia would win a jiffie, and it would mean a total collapse
of Europe. Russia would have stood out as a victorer ... valiant. Instead, Putin comes along and STEALS the presidential elections. Followed by a
new "Soviet" era of politics, of backing down against the US. Despite the "obvious" conflict of interest against Russia itself ... but the outright
action taken by Putin, will most likely result in a "Russia collapse", in the end.
China is the same way ... it's a real question, weather China will ever go against the US. I seriously doubt it, I consider all these 5 nations, being
backed up by the same financial interest group. They are 5 arms, of the same center ... and they're there to fool the rest of us. Because no matter
what nations we belong to, we have different interests. And those who do not follow US interests, will chose Russian, for example. They're just
unaware, that they are choosing the same side ... just with a different face.
And I take Ukraine as complete proof of my logic. There is no sane reason, why Russia should back down in Ukraine. None, what so ever. And there is
no sane reason, why just prior to the Ukraine conflict, Putin steals the presidency. And we can all see with our bare eyes, the outright dislike
amongst the Russian military and public over the decision, to let it go. A decision, that goes straight into the face of the Russians. That now have
hundreds of thousands of refugees passing their borders, tens of thousands of dead ... and it's all downplayed as collateral damage in the west.
If this was happening against any other nation, but Russia and Putin ... it would be all out war.
And I say Russia is using the SCO, as a ruse for the "angry" Russian part. To direct them towards China, unaware that they are embracing a party that
never will amount to anti-NATO or anti-US policy.
The big question in this, is China ... does it have the guts, to claim glory? does it have the intellectual capacity, to plan ahead for a victory?
Or will China, just be another Soviet Union ... a focal point for dissidents, while the world is being taken away from under their feet.
That is what I wonder.
edit on 27/8/2014 by bjarneorn because: (no reason given)