a reply to: Xcathdra
US didn't share anything but their own propaganda.
1. we have proof but we can't show it yet
2. we have proof but yeah, you've guessed it, we can't show it yet
3. here is TEH PROOF! look at those state of the art photos on our twitter! certainly no high school kid was involved in creating those!
to all willing to call me pro russian (i'm from poland, and i just happen to agree with the way putin handles the situation with ukraine, more or
less - he at least deserves some respect, imho), i challenge you: show me a proof, backed by experts and independent investigation, that russians shot
down that malaysian boeing.
afaik, there is none. kiev started blaiming russia and rebels from day zero (or day -1, according to youtube), there were tons of contradicting
reports and blaming each other (the west saying international investigators couldn't get to the crash site right after the crash and that rebels are
to blame, right after that said investigators denied such thing - the amount of lies about how rebels acted on site, being spewed by the west - and
debunked by independent officials that were on site - shows who's spreading propaganda here), and the whole thing is so far a propaganda war. thas
facebook account could have been hacked - just like the account of that rebel posting about a plane being shot down, could have been hacked - or he
could get paid by the west. when it comes to such thing as social media, you can never know for sure.
because, lets face it. the west is involved in ukraine, and that is a fact. cia is involved, they were involved from the very beginning, and that is
also a fact. this whole mess wouldn't happen without the usa sponsoring it, so when your country throws tons of cash at ukraine to create a mess,
then screams that that fascist kiev junta is 'people's will' (how many percent of ukraine citizens really supports them?) and that it is the duty
of the west to support them, don't be surprised when people call their 'evidence' a blatant propaganda. with all the money involved and with all
the high tech crap they have, they could do better - but they don't even care about properly faking the evidence, because they consider people a
bunch of sleeping sheeps that won't care and will believe in any BS thrown at them.
if russians would be to blame, we would see the evidence that cannot be disputed at all a long time ago, because usa has the tech advanced enough that
they would have such evidence. instead, all we see is a public drama around social media - it's a show for sheeple, because sheeple use such media,
so that's why they're using them as well to spread their fairytales.
the west is doing their worst to demonize russia, but i'm afraid putin's patience isn't infinite. it's interesting to see double standards in
action though, not only around the world, but here, on ats. when usa destroyed iraq, libya and other countries, it was all fine. when putin decided to
protect russians living in crimea and take back what was russian anyway, he was painted as an aggressor. kiev junta willing to outlaw russian language
(they've backed off though), killing civilians, using criminals and fascists (right sector, amongst others) as their military force, is fine, right?
but rebels willing to live in peace and with dignity, are terrorists?
'pro russians this, pro russians that' - i'm feeling like i'll vomit every time i see such crap. like the intelligent people with their own
opinion have to be putin's lapdogs. i am polish, and as one of our politicians said, i love russia, the more the further it is. so not at all,
actually. i'm not biased when it comes to ukrainians either, i even worked with two. one was a great man, intelligent, compassionate, very nice. the
other one was a complete asshole, and as it turned out, probably a criminal. i don't even give a damn that they've acted like animals when murdering
polish people during the WWII - it is history. it's not history though that the descendants of those murderers are alive and kicking there now, and
they are in charge. and the history likes to repeat itself.
usa wants war. lets just admit it and be done with it. your economy is collapsing and you won't survive another year without some huge changes - and
because the politicians have no answer to the mess they've created, they want war, because that always works. same goes with eu i guess, but we have
far more time than you do until we hit the bottom line. so far you're just pissing off russia and hurting eu - because noone really needs this
conflict and all those sanctions, because doing business with russians is good for everyone. of course, unless they want war with russia instead.
and every monkey with half of a brain will see just that. usa wants war and eu wants war. a war with russia. a world war. because if they wouldn't,
they wouldn't give a damn about ukraine and they wouldn't throw millions of dollars to overthrow legally elected president by force (they did break
the constitution then) and install openly fascist puppet regime. at the beginning, i was thinking they just want to screw ukrainians up and take their
money, just like they did in poland - but no. this is far greater than that and constant demonizing of russia in western media only confirms it.
people are waking up though. if you would visit any polish news portal with an online translator, you would see how many people are commenting under
every single news article about ukraine and russia, articulating their hatred towards the eu, the usa and our politicians and what they're doing with
our country. and they know we're screwed, because when the war comes, russians will hit us first.
so stick your propaganda where you should stick your nose up, usa, because noone here is willing to die because of your lies. and if people will die,
you'll earn a neverending hatred from nation that really has a problem to learn how to forgive. we were screwed up by the west already during the
last war, we won't just move along this time.