Iraqi Air Force evacuating besieged American contractors

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: jacobe001

Give a a rest already.

Since the entire financial, and banking system in this country is controlled by the US government.

And how many of these politicians come from the heads of Large Corporations and Banks?
One big happy family.

I take it, you are in agreement to bar Heads of Corporations and Banks from serving in politics yes?

They sure as hell do not come from the hard working man like Joe the Plumber.
I can read your thoughts.
We would not want Joe the Plumber running the country.

Ahhh, well, I would say we cannot do any worse with Dubya and Obama running it.

a reply to: PLAYERONE01

and i say again...so much for "mission accomplished".

we've wasted tons of money over there to "liberate and secure" the country, we lost a s**tload of good men and women doing it, and now it's all for naught, because everything we wasted our money on over there, is going up in smoke...

so we spent all that money, and lost all those people for absolutely nothing.....it would have been a more productive use of the money to give it to the american people to wipe their asses with...

i'm genuinely pissed about this.

now, i know the war was started by bush, and he's the retard who called "mission accomplished" when it was anything but...and i think he's a scumbag for getting us mixed up in that mess....but obama kept us there, and wasted more money, and being there cost MORE people their lives...after he PROMISED to get them the hell out of there during his first term....so that lying bastard is just as guilty as bush, when it comes to the iraq mess, in terms of wasting money, and costing lives...

our entire government is on it's goddamn head...why in the hell can't people see this?

a reply to: BobAthome

it seems to be perfectly ok with the U.N. when Israel does it...

seriously though, of course ISIS isn't recognized by the UN as anything but a problem...but then again, i don't really give a toss what the U.N. thinks..

a reply to: neo96

is it really?

i'm sorry NEO, but this feels like scare-mongering, doom porn, or hyperbole....

a reply to: St Udio

i dunno, you make a point, but my thing is, scumbag contractors or not, they're still U.S. citizens...if they're in danger of being killed, then the military should be used to cover their evacuation.

a reply to: neo96

they're BOTH wrong, because we had no business being there in the first place.

how about that?

a reply to: pirhanna

yeah, the larger agenda probably has something to do with pictures of dead americans on every major network, for the next 6 months, while they work the mostly dumb public into a froth, so they'll support MORE loss of freedom here, MORE unnecessary military spending, for adventurism in the middle east, and all manner of other sinister crap.

i could see a MASSIVE invasion of the middle east, reinstatement of the draft, World War f**king Three....

could be that, or it could be that there is no bigger plan, and the general public is just being led around by the nose, by a bunch of idiots, who hope nobody notices how stupid they actually are, before their terms are up, and the gravy train shuts off...

a reply to: InvisibleOwl

Berghdal stopped being a soldier when he abandoned his unit, and walked off post, to go play nice with the enemy.

that being said, he's still a citizen...just like the contractors..

now yes, the contractors should be getting their men out, and i'm sure they're working the problem...the issue is that they don't have fighters, and attack helicopters, and tanks, and A-10s, and AC-130s, and all the other stuff you need, to provide proper support, or cover, or even really, and effective rescue, against a literal f**king ARMY with heavy guns, RPG's, machine guns, and all that...sure, they don't have tanks, and the like either....but it's possible they might capture such things...but even if they don't have them, you still need significant support, firepower, and hardware, to ensure that as few lives as possible on your side are lost...

i'm not saying re-invade....i'm saying send a couple of specters, some A-10s, and maybe even a few drones, and give them the cover they need, to get out safe...

originally posted by: buster2010
Did the government make these people go work in a war zone? It was their choice and if anything happens to them they only have themselves to blame.

ok, how about a group of american tourists? a vacation is even MORE useless than a JOB......

does being a tourist, or a contractor suddenly make you any less an american citizen?

this kind of "they have only themselves to blame" crap, is the same kind of nonsense you hear out of some rapists..."well, she was just dressed too sexy, she had only herself to blame"

c'mon, man...

OMG it is inhumane to expect the Iraqi air force to DO THEIR JOB. We trained then gave them money and weapons they are supposed to do that.

we trained them, and gave them money to defend IRAQ.....not to cover our people, and ferry them out of harm's way, because the current administration is either too chickens**t, or too uncaring to do it themselves....

a reply to: neo96

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

wouldn't that be goddamn hilarious?

i seriously might poo myself if something like that were to happen.

Well while I don't like what it has been done to Iraq since the Saddam years, I find disturbing that a president that excused himself from scrutiny claiming that US doesn't leave Americans behind, can seat back and allow American personnel in Iraq be harm because his lack of commitment to a nation that our government help destroy, regardless of which president was in power at time the deed was done.

Still allow terrorist take over the Iraqi nation like is no his fault or he was not the president responsible for their demise.

a reply to: marg6043

Still allow terrorist take over the Iraqi nation like is no his fault or he was not the president responsible for their demise.

What ?

Yeah he is.

The 'war is over' cut, bait and ran. which has created another Afghanistan that will become a safe haven, and terrorist training ground.

Which they will strike out against other countries, and work there way here again.

It is his fault.

Because when a person thinks that a group of people like those radical islamo fascists, clinging to their guns, and religion doesn't have 'imperial' aspirations.

Hasn't been paying attention to modern, and recent world history.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: marg6043



Because when a person thinks that a group of people like those radical islamo fascists, clinging to their guns, and religion doesn't have 'imperial' aspirations.

Hasn't been paying attention to modern, and recent world history.

Actually to me shows that Obama is a Islamic fundamentalist sympathizer.

originally posted by: Wrabbit2000

Even Captain Picard can see this isn't logical.

I know we're having budget cuts and all...but this goes just one little step beyond humiliating in my thinking.

The source is WND, I wouldn't believe it unless someone more credible can confirm.

a reply to: marg6043

Actually to me shows that Obama is a Islamic fundamentalist sympathizer.

His actions lately have said as much.

But that is expected from a guy who went to school at a madrassa in Indonesia.

He sure the hell doesn't want to fight them.

He sure the hell loves to talk to them, and send them to places like this:

nypost.com...

ETA:

Then add the whole Bergdhal White House rose garden deal.

originally posted by: marg6043

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: marg6043



Because when a person thinks that a group of people like those radical islamo fascists, clinging to their guns, and religion doesn't have 'imperial' aspirations.

Hasn't been paying attention to modern, and recent world history.

Actually to me shows that Obama is a Islamic fundamentalist sympathizer.

I'm still wondering why I'm hearing that the admin was "caught off guard"! Why hasn't anyone caught on to the timing of all this??

Looks to me like they got the big go-ahead here...

a reply to: Aazadan

Well, given that the truth of the matter has been explained in the thread, and they got it fundamentally correct by what I've now read OUTSIDE wnd...

it seems source wasn't an issue here. Perhaps....it's an issue a lot less than people make it. At least, it usually is in my experience with places that kinda....pay the bills by things like base credibility. No credibility means the owners of WND get VERY hungry and VERY unemployed, faster than they'd likely believe it could happen. Who needs fabricators?

Just an note...for a difference between source spin and source fabrication.

(WND spins like a child's top...but who doesn't? I've never seen them outright fabricate a story)

a reply to: CornShucker

I always feel that is nothing done under the government of the US that doesn't have the word agenda written all over it.

I guess that is the way you get when you no longer trust your for the people government.

To be fair to Obama, you can't really expect him to know and react to every event(and probably wouldn't know about this, if it weren't posted here), on a moment's notice. The cities have only been taken a couple of days ago.

originally posted by: Destinyone
a reply to: SevenThunders

I fully expect with the way things are going. Instead of tax refunds next year, we'll all be getting a prayer rug instead.

Just wanted to post and say:

That was funny!

But I guess I have to contribute something...

When I saw the Headlines yesterday, I thought about posts I've seen on ATS saying 'problem... solution' .