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(CNN) -- A federal judge struck down Oregon's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage Monday.
"Because Oregon's marriage laws discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation without a rational relationship to any legitimate government interest, the laws violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution," U.S. District Judge Michael McShane said in his ruling.
Oregon voters passed Measure 36 in 2004, which amended the state's Constitution to define marriage as between one man and a woman.
In February, the state's attorney general said she would not defend the ban in court because it would not stand up to a federal constitutional challenge.
originally posted by: camain
That said, I absolutely think that homosexuals should be allowed to enter into same sex unions, and have all the rights, privileges, and circumstances that a married heterosexual couple has.
originally posted by: camain
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
right but why do they marry when they don't believe in God?
? in the Judeo-Christian environment Marriage is a Union between a man and a woman, let the Buddhist and Hindus have there Union just as let the homosexuals have there's. there all different unions and they should all be the same, BUT allowed to be different.
Christians get upset with homosexuals getting "married" because the bible is clear, homosexual behavior is a sin.
Most Christians however think that there is nothing wrong with civil unions.
thats because the people have, over decades...been skillfully manipulated into accepting ideas that were unnacceptable only a few decades ago. People only think its the result of some magical mass awakening of people, but in reality they are just acting out whatever was injected into their heads, through non-stop media programming and celebrity endorsement....this has created a false notion that people who believe ''marriage'' is between a man and a woman are bigots. Also, I'm not an American, but I must say its interesting to see an entire nation destroy itself morally and socially and actually are convinced that they are ''progressing'' while everybody else who disagrees are stuck in the past. Its funny and sad at the same time.
originally posted by: LDragonFire
10 years ago 0 states allowed same sex marriage today 17 states and the District of Columbia have same sex marriage now you can add Oregon to that list....
originally posted by: camain
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
right but why do they marry when they don't believe in God? Just like why do Buddhist or Hindus marry?
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
thats because the people have, over decades...been skillfully manipulated into accepting ideas that were unnacceptable only a few decades ago.
this has created a false notion that people who believe ''marriage'' is between a man and a woman are bigots.
Also, I'm not an American,
its more than just ''softening'' up society. There is a very real bias in the way the media reports things. Some time back, I posted a youtube video of gay activists beating up a christian for holding up a sign....in full public view. Imagine if it were the other way round....if christians beat up a gay dude wth a sign. The media would be all over it. There is a BIAS at work.
originally posted by: shapur
Whatever people do in their privacy if it doesn't bother the others is OK and should be legal...But it seems like the media is intentionally softening up the society for a greater agenda....Consume more, be selfish,live the moment,fulfill your sexual desires,loosen up,be an individual,etc,,,all are not necessarily a bad thing but promoting it so much seems a little odd to me.
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
Gays being allowed to marry are a recent development. As the op said 0 states allowed it 10 years ago....and now 17 states allow it. How did that happen?
Evidence exists that same-sex marriages were tolerated in parts of Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt. Artifacts from Egypt, for example, show that same-sex relationships not only existed, but the discovery of a pharaonic tomb for such a couple shows their union was recognized by the kingdom.
How did that change happen? I'd say it was engineered ....peoples perceptions were shaped , as evidence shows.
Its the usual techique used to silence the opposition....basically ''I stand for love and civil rights and equality, and you dont''.