Court to probe UK Iraq abuse claims

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An initial investigation into claims that UK forces abused Iraqi detainees is to be opened by the International Criminal Court.

The preliminary examination will analyse alleged crimes attributed to UK armed forces deployed in Iraq between 2003 and 2008.

Attorney General Dominic Grieve said the government completely rejected allegations of abuse.

This will be the first time the UK has been the subject of an ICC probe.

The head of the military prosecution body in the UK, Andrew Cayley, said it would co-operate.

But he said he believed it was unlikely that the ICC would push for a full, formal investigation, as the British government was already investigating claims of abuse in Iraq.

Without a doubt abuse happened in Iraq. Abuse that has already been well documented and made public, American abuse but are we to believe the UK had no part as well? War is hell and abuse comes with that territory.

Interesting this is the first time the UK has ever been under investigation but really, what has the ICC done, ever? Does it matter, says here they won't even do a formal investigation because the accused is also doing an investigation on themselves... k.

Either way, with the American abuse alone what was done about it? What will be done to prevent it? Not much, we already have the Geneva Conventions but still there are black sites all over the world and open torture, so what's the point?

Poor Iraq, over a decade later and they are literally in Hell. Constant terrorist attacks are only on the rise killing thousands upon thousands of innocent people monthly. Iraq was truly better off under Saddam's rule.

Another false war brought to you by lying politicians, intelligence, and military leaders.

a reply to: Swills

All well and good,but Its the likes of Tony Blair and Jack Straw who should be in court for war crimes-getting us into a war under false pretexts(weapons of mass destruction could hit the UK in 45 mins)and lying about britain being involved in rendition,and subsequent involvement in torture.

If the soldiers are getting investigated,then so should the politicians involved in leading us into war illegally IMO.

Problem being most of these cases have been thrown out and proven to be false, there seems to be an influx of them since the news of big potential payouts

There are however a number of pictures concerning so idlers posing with dead enemy troops... But that'll just go to a military discharge or quart martial

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I agree but we all know the politicians who follow the agenda never get in trouble. Nothin will be done whether they're American or British.

Yeah a quart marshall will take care of it............
The whole things a sham for the bleeding hearts....the rerst of us hardly give it a thought....it wasn't us now, was it...........
Blah blah blah..............let me out of here...............rant mode off...

Least the UK is holding investigations into abuse.

Dont see the high and almighty USA doing anything about there system of black prisons and toture camps....

a reply to: crazyewok - Registered: 21-12-2012 Location: UK

Dig a little deeper. back in 08, 09, 2010 etc, there were plenty of stories and threads posted about the US doing investigations about the situation in Iraq abuse, illegal killings etc.

Some bogus, while many others did raise legitimate concerns.

originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: crazyewok - Registered: 21-12-2012 Location: UK

Dig a little deeper. back in 08, 09, 2010 etc, there were plenty of stories and threads posted about the US doing investigations about the situation in Iraq abuse, illegal killings etc.

Some bogus, while many others did raise legitimate concerns.

Did they act of them though?

Which I guess will be the queation with the UK of will we act on the findings.

a reply to: crazyewok

Yes, some were prosecuted, not all claims were legitimate though.

Investigating claims is one thing,

Anybody can make a claim,

as i recall at abu garaib(sp) they jailed some low level order followers
who were following orders
guess the corporate immunity created by presidential decree didn't extend to them

The United States Department of Defense removed seventeen soldiers and officers from duty, and eleven soldiers were charged with dereliction of duty, maltreatment, aggravated assault and battery. Between May 2004 and March 2006, eleven soldiers were convicted in courts-martial, sentenced to military prison, and dishonorably discharged from service. Two soldiers, Specialist Charles Graner, and his former fiancée, Specialist Lynndie England, were sentenced to ten years and three years in prison, respectively, in trials ending on January 14, 2005 and September 26, 2005. The commanding officer of all Iraq detention facilities, Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, was reprimanded for dereliction of duty and demoted to the rank of Colonel on May 5, 2005. Col. Karpinski has denied knowledge of the abuses, claiming that the interrogations were authorized by her superiors and performed by subcontractors, and that she was not allowed entry into the interrogation rooms.

en.wikipedia.org...

no heads will role
only "tails" will get pinned....