Canadian DOD guy: There WILL BE WW3, this is not doom porn

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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 01:17 AM
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originally posted by: RadiationAndCancer

If US keeps pushing Eastern European countries into NATO


That is the sentence that I can not agree with and which makes me really suspicious the guy is who he says himself to be.

Baltics is generally considered more towards Eastern Europe (by foreigners). I can say for sure, US did not need to push anything there, the countries themselves worked hard to get into NATO and any DOD analyst should know it . Russia has a large population compared to any previous Soviet Nation, as well as negative history and these are the reasons why small nations are still slightly worried about Russia and want strong allies, so that history would not repeat itself.

After the USSR collapsed, they managed to keep a few puppet governments in certain nations - ukraine, belarus, moldova etc. The corruption in these nations is extreme, as well as the life standards are significantly below other previous soviet-occupied nations. It is no wonder, when people want a change or direction towards Europe. When travelling around the difference of life standards is extreme and well, most people are not conspiracy theorists and choose their direction based on more successful models.

Most of the russians in these nations have not been there for more than a few generations - when soviet took over, they built huge industrial bases (one of such parts is Eastern Ukraine) and relocated massive amount of russians there. For example, in Estonia before Soviet union, the Russian % was under 9%, after it was 25%. Many locals were sent to Siberia in animal trains, while russians were brought in.

Currently Russia is the bad guy in this situation and finding a solution is not easy . Hopefully this will not lead to world war.
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 02:10 AM
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Fantastic post!


There was a reply stating how the UK cannot afford a war, this is spot on to!

If this does kick off, expect the UK to provide "What assistance it can", rather than throw everything at it. Also expect to see ALOT of US troops in the UK. We will welcome you with open arms of course
. (Politically wise)

(I would also be very happy to have you here on a personal level, not for security, but I genuinely really like the US, my father has lived there for 20+ plus years and is a citizen. I have been there many many times and have come to think of the US of A as my second home)



But back on point. I think this will kick off. My step-dad, who puts every tiny thing down we see on the MSM when it comes to conflict, he even thinks it will.

However, I think there is some higher sub-plot. It really is not rocket science that WW3 would do nothing but hurt all parties involved, unless of course, at the end of it all, when people who can make money have made it, and the others have lost it. Somebody decides it's time to push the reset button. Because WW3 "Hurt everyone real bad and we need to recover"



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 02:24 AM
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There is so little to gain by pushing Ukraine into NATO, and so much


But everything to lose from Russia ...


And this is exactly why what the OP wrote is utter rubbish, Russia is making all the aggressive moves, there is absolutely no way on planet sane that the US or EU could ever ever ever influence such popular uprisings in Ukraine by "behind the scenes bank deals and loans... what a load of utter rubbish

Absolutely laughable

The MASS country wide protests in Ukraine are REAL

The SMALL armed Russian backed groups are REAL

The fact Russia has violated a dozen international laws is REAL

Common will prevail
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 02:45 AM
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So Basically, reading over it, this guy is saying

Russia will win a war with NATO and the US by a nuclear war

Back off, back off, back off, NATO I'm a Canadian military advisor lol

HOAX BIN



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 02:45 AM
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a reply to: RadiationAndCancer

Just heard earlier on 04/24 that American troops are amassing in Poland. Supposedly, a routine military exercise. Hmmm..yeah right.


Kratos



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:00 AM
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Amassing?! 600 guys is amassing now *lol*

I don't think that the EU will march to war over the Ukraine. If the baltics or poland gets threatenend, then things will gear up a bit. Today, everything is still quiet and Germany sent 6 EURO-Fighters and a support freighter to the baltics, that's all.

But it is interesting to notice that german law got changed.
Our Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen approved that the recruiting age for soldiers can be under 18. That did slip under the radar here and was mentioned only breif in the media, but it means: Germany could have teensoldiers in the case of war (like in the End of WWII...).
What a depressing thought....
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:15 AM
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originally posted by: andr3w68
What you have said here has worried me since the whole thing started. Yet it seems more people care about Game of Thrones than do our earth.


well game of thrones is a good watch.....

This Ukraine thing is definitely a catalyst for somthing big, somthing scary.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 03:22 AM
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Well the apparent Albert Pike letter written in 1871 makes perfect sense!


"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."


The Three World Wars

But this goes on about Israel and the Middle East. Maybe the Russia confrontation is their Plan B!
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:08 AM
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originally posted by: projectbane

Great Britain can't afford a war right now. Cameron virtually has said so in the last budgetary meeting with his cabinet. Being forced into war is something that Great Britain would rather not do!!



I don't think that the UK will have a choice in the matter. Any opposition forces to the US will see the UK as a US-allied strategic component and seek to disable it at the earliest opportunity. Especially if the radioactive muck hits the fan...



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:22 AM
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People always look linear to a situation. AT this time when people are talking about Ukraine, let's not forget what's happening elsewhere

-Syria
-Iran ( think Israel planning it's military budget this year to attack Iran)
-Central Africa ( incase you forget, at this point there are alot of troops in CA, france, US, Germany )
- NK profiling itself
- China- Japan - Taiwan ( Senkaku islands )

IF one missile is fired, everyone will react and look at this like it's a go. Russia is showing the world don't fear the petrodollar And the petrodollar is a symbol for the US strengt as a superpower
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: brace22
Fantastic post!


There was a reply stating how the UK cannot afford a war, this is spot on to!





No it's not spot on, it's total drivel and reads like a beg for the world to turn a blind eye to another 1938 scenario

The article you read was nothing more than a conditioning, one of many more to come for a bigger military budget

But that is no secret, NATO has called on it members to increase military spending in recent weeks, so expect more news paper articles stating how we're inadequate and inferior with more carriers, and a complete upgrading and modernisation of the RN, the best 4.5 gens and 28 other country's military's combined on board is just ridiculous NATOs combined forces out number vastly and outclass what Russia has to offer vastly

It's just a campaign to get the public to support a larger military budget



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 06:32 AM
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Just need to find a way for Putin to die and this will end. No need to have a war. Just kill Putin somehow.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: Xeven

And let the west run rampant? Let's have this same conversation in 10 years, when everyone in your neighborhood lives in ghetto's out of work or either do # jobs payed below minimum wage.

Like it or not, the west needs its counterbalance. China/Russia provides this. Noone expects you to choose between them, but be glad their here.

Even if both parties act out of self-interest, remember if the west didn't have anyone serious to back down, we would be in Syria in Iran, in NK and den sum.

Its a necessary evil.
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 08:04 AM
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originally posted by: MessageforAll
a reply to: Xeven

And let the west run rampant? Let's have this same conversation in 10 years, when everyone in your neighborhood lives in ghetto's out of work or either do # jobs payed below minimum wage.

Like it or not, the west needs its counterbalance. China/Russia provides this. Noone expects you to choose between them, but be glad their here.

Even if both parties act out of self-interest, remember if the west didn't have anyone serious to back down, we would be in Syria in Iran, in NK and den sum.

Its a necessary evil.

I agree we need counterbalance in world but don't delude yourself US is NOT failing economically. Most of us are fine. The people who want to work are fine. Those who have worked and are currently unemployed are fine. Our poorest live better than most people on Earth with only a few exceptions where they brought on their own pain.

All this news about our economy is just Politics. They scream bloody murder to get attention to get elected. It's just louder in todays world. I am going boating today and so are a bunch of my friends. Our roads are clean, most people who are half brained half health insurance. DO we got problems? Yeah but not anything near an economic collapse happening up in here. You been misled by our Politics my friend.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 08:05 AM
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Chernobyl is in Ukraine. Just throwing it out there, seems like most people think it is in Russia. Not since back in the USSR days. IMO we should stay out of it. Are we going to stop another country, like Russia from taking Canada? Hell yes. Would we stop China from taking Mexico? ........Probably! Not surprising they aren't happy about us sticking our nose into Ukraine.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 08:11 AM
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There are many idiomatic and strange uses of language that make me suspect the quoted text in the original post wasn't written by a native English speaker, let alone one that wrote English for a living.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 08:17 AM
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This guys is an idiot. To begin with he does not know that the Canadian Defense Department does not exist and is called the Department of National Defence. He also makes the same silly 800 military base claim. Any with any back ground in the Defense or Intelligence world would know better.

He would never count and unmanned radar station, a couple of guys in Brazil who arrange to purchase supplies for visiting US ships, or an airfield the US has landing rights on but no US personel as a base. They would also no that well over 95% of US active forces are always on US territory.

He would also know that nobody has been pushing Easter European nations into NATO. In fact for a long time the debate in NATO has been if they should let them in.

He would also know that people in both the US intelligence agencies and State Department have been getting reamed for not being able to for see what was happening in Ukraine leaving the US and the EU scrambling to react to events instead of being on top of them.

He would also know that 5 years ago Russia started up a dual suppy system so that anything that the military depended on Ukraine for was now also made in Russia.

He would also never bring up the urban legend of Obama replacing all the high ranking officers which anybody with the ability to read could debunk.

In the end this guy is simply tossing a bunch of conspiracy site stuff all together and then declaring he is an expert source when in reality he is either an idiot or a troll having a good laugh at any who buys it.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: MrSpad

In the end this guy is simply tossing a bunch of conspiracy site stuff all together and then declaring he is an expert source when in reality he is either an idiot or a troll having a good laugh at any who buys it.





My thoughts exactly

To add he's also probably Russian, it's no different to the baseless and blatant lies we hear on here

TO THE HOAX/BS BIN
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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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Lets just hope that if America & Russia get into a war, that the regime in Washington DC and their families will be bombed by Russia the same way that they bomb other people("terrorists") and their families. It's probably the only way to get a regime change in America, sadly. No one wants war, especially of this magnitude, AND FOR WHAT? What is it that the Zionists in DC, willing to risk WW3 for in Ukraine? What is it??
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