Michelle Obama arrives in China for official visit

(CNN) -- First lady Michelle Obama is in China for an official visit to expand Sino-American relations, but she will refrain from talking about political differences.

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Mrs. Obama, who flew Wednesday from Washington, D.C., is making a week-long trip to three Chinese cities and will speak with children at several schools about the importance of education and youth empowerment.

Is that right ?

'The importantance of education, and youth empowerment' !

I have a suggestion like letting them be born in to this world so they would have the opportunity to find out how 'awesome' communism is, and Mrs Obama is.

That's a start.

Although I can't figure out why Mrs Obama, and the kids wanted to go to China. The are living with a guy whose entire playbook is straight out of the communist manifesto.

Complete with Mao Christmas tree ornaments etc.

Oh never mind I can see why they went to China:

State ran 'internets'.
State ran media.
State ran healthcare.
State ran banks.
Guns are illegal to own.
Billions have been spent on infrastructure. That ghost cities sit around empty.

This is rich:

"I think they understand the significance as well of family and of three generations of family traveling together, which I think the Chinese will appreciate, and will appreciate the ties and the bonds that the Obama family have with one another across generations," said the first lady's chief of staff, Tina Tchen.

What a load of horsesnip.

The significance of family is that is none of governments business.

Both China, and the party Mrs. Obama are from have replaced the family with the state for 'mother,and father'.

Focusing on children eh?

Brainwash them while they are young, you will have them for life.

Government 'education' eh ?

Over the decades we have seen how well that has worked out.

For some odd reason some people think that throwing billions of dollars at kids( other peoples money BTW) 'has to make them smarter'.

I remember back in the day communist countries use to be banned from US traveling.

I guess when your political ideology has forced business out of this country, and has made it so expensive to do business here. They leave, and go to places like China.

And when they are your banker. I guess all 'morality' goes out the window.

So the 'Obamas' are in China!

Some people would say That China is that utopia that her husbands party wants to create here.

And they would be right.

I would have hoped that human rights violations would have been talked about.

But China is probably too polite to bring up the Obama's human rights violations.

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Man it would be so terrible for something to happen to her while over there doing "good deeds".....

I love the waste of money, oh well it isn't the Obama's money paying for the trip anyways so who cares?

Sorry my sarcasm meter is just going crazy today, even reading my post back to myself...

Obama is a Communist?

Who knew?

Might be good to post some exact, specific incidents of how he is using this communist playbook so we can all know.

Last I knew, presidential wives are basically ambassadors, spreading goodwill and American propaganda to other countries. Not a bad thing. Not their jobs to stir up international intrigue and cause more friction between countries. We have enough worthless politicians in place to do that already.

would be amusing if she does her normal "open mouth and spew forth insults".

i would just love to see the Chinese reaction to that, of course unlike normal people nothing would happen to her, but it would still be a good laugh. what moron decided letting her loose in China was a good idea.

but hey she is probably there to learn more of how a country should be run, since her hubby is working so hard to mirror places like China. she will likely bring home all sorts of good ideas for him to copy.

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Might be good to post some exact, specific incidents of how he is using this communist playbook so we can all know.

The EO's banning military weapon importants good enough ?

The EO closing the so called 'corporate' loophole' in one breath saying corporations aren't people, then turns around, and forces them to get 'background checks' that are for people good enough ?

The union baliouts good enough ?

Unions are the epitome of communist ideology. For those who don't know.

Class warfare within.

IF you don't have senority your nothing at all.

The union first the union only. Individual rights matter for nothing.

The minimum wage increase is another one.

Those bloody evil business keeping the common man down!

The rich should 'pay their fair' share.

Obama care ?

That state ran healthcare.

Yeah Obamas' rhetoric is straight out of the communist playbook.

How can some people ignore it be so willfully blind.

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You realize that if the right keeps demanding that those things are communist, the new generation is going to look favorably upon this version of communism.

oh muh gerd, the peoples are forming a union!!!

Give me Obama's "communism" verses the alternate mad max anarchy the current extreme right is wishing upon a civilized nation any day of the week, thank you.

You know your party is in trouble when your angry that the first lady is going to a foreign country and giving a message of hope and education to kids.
Keep going further to the right...the cliff is almost in sight.

You're totally slipping. You forgot to be horrified at how much this trip cost. Or hasn't Rush or Drudge gotten around to that yet?

The EO's banning military weapon importants good enough ? -----We've always had debates and bans on Military weapons for civilians. This is nothing new with just Obama.

The EO closing the so called 'corporate' loophole' in one breath saying corporations aren't people, then turns around, and forces them to get 'background checks' that are for people good enough ? ------What's wrong with background checks for purchasing weapons? We've always had them anyway.

The union baliouts good enough ? -------Bush started the bailout program...was he communist too?

Unions are the epitome of communist ideology. For those who don't know. ------Unions are turning that way, I agree with you but they didn't start out badly, they were put in place to protect workers and to stop things like child labor.

Class warfare within. -----There's no proof of that. If there is any class warfare it's coming from the Right.

IF you don't have senority your nothing at all. -----Depends on the job, and seniority isn't always a good thing. But this isn't communist or all Obama.

The union first the union only. Individual rights matter for nothing. Individual rights and freedoms are sacred but look at the NSA stuff and the patriot act. Those really take away our rights and the staunchest supporters are from the right...maybe the republicans are communists too then?

The minimum wage increase is another one. =====Minimum Wage increases are a good thing. see Henry Ford. He was not a communist.

Those bloody evil business keeping the common man down! ------Look at your Republican comrades about this too. Not just the left. Romney was big on Corporations. It would have been worse with him in office.

The rich should 'pay their fair' share. -----Yes they should.

Obama care ? -------Nothing wrong with Universal Healthcare when you can't afford healthcare, but I do agree that this implementation isn't quite right. needs to be fixed. Could be fixed to everyone's delight and benefit if Republicans and Democrats could learn to talk to each other and work together.

That state ran healthcare. -----See above.

Yeah Obamas' rhetoric is straight out of the communist playbook. =====not Communist at all. Have you been Listening to Rush Limbaugh? That guys not mentally all there. Not seeing any Communist playbook stuff here. I think you're mistaken.

How can some people ignore it be so willfully blind -----Not willfully blind here. How can you say that?

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You realize that if the right keeps demanding that those things are communist, the new generation is going to look favorably upon this version of communism.

Yep I am well aware that you can't teach intelligence. So the new generation will just parrot political ideology that says 'communism' is good.

oh muh gerd, the peoples are forming a union!!!

Considering I spent a decade of my life in a union.

They EARNED my contempt. In a myriad of ways.

You know your party is in trouble when your angry that the first lady is going to a foreign country and giving a message of hope and education to kids.

You know that some people have no real argument when they try to deflect like that.

My party ?

Keep going further to the right...the cliff is almost in sight.

Really thank you I had no idea that people who don't worship at the alter of statolatry was considered to be 'right'.

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hmm so she is not talking politics and stuff right? so should i assume that because this is NOT a political trip that SHE is going to PAY for it? i wonder how much THIS sightseeing trip will cost the taxpayers? especially when they cut military entitlements that were promised to them. that the non-affordable care act looks like it will be hit with huge cost increases. not extending unemployment benefits for those who can not find work. etc.

these people just seem to know how to blow needed tax payer money to have a good time. IT NEEDS TO STOP. how many vacations do most every day people get? not near as many as the obamas do. and then everyday people have to actually PAY for their trips. not have every luxury and heavy security provided free of charge on top of that. this is a good example of why we need to keep rich morons like this that have no clue about real life out of office.

~Lucidity
You're totally slipping. You forgot to be horrified at how much this trip cost. Or hasn't Rush or Drudge gotten around to that yet?

Care to quote where 'Rush or Drudge' was in that CNN link ?

Please by all means.

Yeah someone is slipping.

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Mine was a comment on your commentary, not about the contents of the carefully considered links you chose to launch your comments from.

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The EO's banning military weapon importants good enough ? -----We've always had debates and bans on Military weapons for civilians. This is nothing new with just Obama.

What was banned was decades old. Not carried by any modern military in the world.

The EO closing the so called 'corporate' loophole' in one breath saying corporations aren't people, then turns around, and forces them to get 'background checks' that are for people good enough ? ------What's wrong with background checks for purchasing weapons? We've always had them anyway.

Yeah well I don't think people need to ask government for permission to buy a gun. Hell when the OBamas throw a hissy fit asking for a person to show ID to vote.

he union baliouts good enough ? -------Bush started the bailout program...was he communist too?

Wonder why OBama took credit for it then eh?

Obama 'saved' the auto industry!.

Class warfare within. -----There's no proof of that. If there is any class warfare it's coming from the Right.

Yeah there is proof of that.

High senority people get the best jobs do the least amount of work, and the lower senority people get the worst jobs.

THAT IS A FACT.

The union first the union only. Individual rights matter for nothing. Individual rights and freedoms are sacred but look at the NSA stuff and the patriot act. Those really take away our rights and the staunchest supporters are from the right...maybe the republicans are communists too then?

The NSA has jacksnip to do with unions.

The minimum wage increase is another one. =====Minimum Wage increases are a good thing. see Henry Ford. He was not a communist.

Are they now ?

Considering the employer is paying half of the employees social security contributions, their medicare contributions. the employees unemployment insurance, and their worksmans comp insurance.

Increasing the wage increased all of the above ?

And that is good ?

OF course any wage increase is meanlingless since the rest of that if there is anything left is eaten up by taxes.

The rich should 'pay their fair' share. -----Yes they should.

Guess that constitution is a GD piece of paper where property rights don't mean a GD thing then eh?

Obama care ? -------Nothing wrong with Universal Healthcare when you can't afford healthcare, but I do agree that this implementation isn't quite right. needs to be fixed. Could be fixed to everyone's delight and benefit if Republicans and Democrats could learn to talk to each other and work togethe

Yeah there is being forced to buy a corporate product that if some people could afford they would already have it.

But then again look at that state ran dynamic duo of medicare, and medicaid that is a cluster EFF knew from the beginning what the epic failure that would be.

OBamacare was never designed to work anyways. As it's proponents' like Harry Reid was a 'stepping stone' to the state taking over control over the entire sector.

Oh and between medicare, and medicaid that accounts for over 100+ million Americans healthcare that should rightly be in the private sector.

Lots of things wrong with that stupidity.

Yeah Obamas' rhetoric is straight out of the communist playbook. =====not Communist at all.

Yeah it is.

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The politics you subscribe to have completely destroyed the concept of communism and socialism.
Communism doesn't allow for individuality, last I heard, you can go be what you want to be, no assigned jobs, no equal pay across the board regardless of task, etc. There is nothing communist about this country, or even northern Europe. You are destroying the word and corrupting the language intentionally.
Which means either even simple sharing will be viewed distastefully, or more likely, the people screaming the nonsense will be marginalized.

You do a disservice to the opposing party when all you do is punch holes in your own boat as a tactic. Reasonable discussions is what works, not sheer nonsense and drama queening every single perspective to absurdity.

As far as unions. corporations don't want unions, because they want to squeeze every single cent out of the workers. It stands to reason then that they spend vast sums to get into the minds that when people unite together to demand better, it is somehow a bad thing. No logical basis for the philosophy, so instead they target individual people who are corrupt and by that example suggest the philosophy itself is corrupt.

Let me ask you a question. How would you -improve- representation of the people and unions? try not to default answer "break em up"...a strong union = a strong middle class. This is why in regards to GDP, Wealth, and every other measure of prosperity, strong union states far exceed the non union states on average.

As far as intelligence being taught, well, a person is or isn't. They can however get facts straight.

Communism:
a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs

the second part is capitalism also. class war is not a progressive tax, it is a cap on wealth. We have no cap on wealth, we have billionares with sick amounts of money.
We are a capitalist corporate oligarchy....just as the founding fathers intended (not).

Not every far flung right idea is a bad idea..just the ones they are loudest about tend to be the worst. Its good to have a different opinion, that's how things progress for the better through compromise, but if the alternative opinion is to always just fly into the sun, then its not a difference of opinion verses a nihilistic stance on how the world must forever suck and be stuck in the 14th century.
unions are bad, poor people getting health insurance is bad, women are to be ignored, health should be ignored, literacy rates should be ignored, education should be equal with religion, etc etc etc. one bad idea after another...wave the flag as much as you want, but we have progressed as a society since 1776

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The politics you subscribe to have completely destroyed the concept of communism and socialism.

My politics aren't the GD topic.

My politics aren't destroying this country.

But hey make the topic about me there!!!

As far as unions. corporations don't want unions, because they want to squeeze every single cent out of the workers.

Funny unions want to 'squeeze' every cent out of them evil corporations.

Oh and look places like DETRIOT exist when they get their way.

Let me ask you a question.

Why wasn't aware that people actually gave a damn what I think.

How would you -improve- representation of the people and unions? try not to default answer "break em up"...a strong union = a strong middle class

That is Bullsnip.

So in order to have a 'strong middle class' they NEED unions ?

The middle class needs unions like they need another hole in their heads.

But hey who gives a eff.

For over 50 years the middle class had OPTIONS like the financial sector to raise their standard of living.

You know those investment vehicles, like stocks,bonds,mutual funds,money markets, and savings accounts, and cds.

The only two things left is stocks, and bonds, because the COMMUNISTS have destroyed any real rates of returns on those other vehicles.

But hey the GD corporations and 'wall street', and banks are bloody evil incarnate.

Never fear the GD union is here to 'save' the day! !

WHAT A GD joke.

As far as intelligence being taught, well, a person is or isn't. They can however get facts straight.

So you are saying for the last 6 years, and the last 100 years OBamas party has not pitted rich people against the middle class. and the poor ?

I do have my facts straight.

IT is because of that ideology is the reason middle class and poor investment opportunites all don't return jacksnip.

For the record that is the leading cause of 'income inequality'.

But hey who cares right !

Keep deflecting making it about the GD right, and me.

Not every far flung right idea is a bad idea..just the ones they are loudest about tend to be the worst

And that is intellectual dishonesty.

The right didn't create the federal reserve,expand it's powers under Frank Dodd or create the dependency state.

Because LEFTIST ideology doesn't make people smart, or successful.

What LEFTIST ideology does is use the state to 'give' them things they can't get on their own.,

Leftist, communsit's whatever they call themselves.

Hell really they need to do a better job distinguinshing themselves are their own worst enemy.

Because all they do is play to the persons ID.

The perpetual victimization complex.

Sure GO AHEAD, and blame the 'right'.

Doesn't make it true.

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I am just glad that her and her husband gave up their cellphone and cable so that she could afford this trip! /sarcasm

neo96
My politics aren't the GD topic.

The politics you subscribe to are indeed the topic. Michelle goes to china to give a thumbs up to education....communism!
This is the delusional subject going on you presented in ops.

My politics aren't destroying this country.

Trade laws as they sit are.

Funny unions want to 'squeeze' every cent out of them evil corporations.

Yes, its called negotiation. you ask for a dollar, they say a dime, and you meet in the middle. no unions saying a dollar, and the employees get left with just a dime or take a walk.

Oh and look places like DETRIOT exist when they get their way.

No, places like DETROIT exist when no penalties arise from foreign OUTSOURCING

So you are saying for the last 6 years, and the last 100 years OBamas party has not pitted rich people against the middle class. and the poor ?

Oh, the rich are definitely pitted against the middle and poor...and its obvious who is winning that battle.

Keep defending the richest of the rich and demanding there is class warfare. There is indeed, just by the opposite side of where your preaching from. When a leader steps up to try and fix even a small margain of this huge wealth disparity, your -side- immediately flips right the eff out and screams class warfare..meanwhile speaking out of your other mouth to bust unions and remove and/all net or support for people who need it.

I do have my facts straight.

Then it must be reality that is twisted, because your "facts" seem to clash with actual facts.

For the record that is the leading cause of 'income inequality'.

No, again, poor trade laws is the true reason. That is actually a bipartisan (and equally ignored on both side) understanding by economic professors. corporations will always be in it for the money..its their nature, it is actually a good thing. this invites competition, innovation, etc...that's good for the economy, what isn't is them not just able to pack up and move everything overseas for slave labor wages, but actually encouraged to do it.
Make it not profitable for them to do that and instead work from home and voila...you will have a strong middle class. This is an area that I think the left and right could work on..but it means giving the finger to the corporate entities and their desire for foreign slave labor.

The rest of your post is just to spouting platitudes of your political agenda. not significant in any actual discussion of whatever the hell the topic is here outside of a general rant.

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Enjoy.

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The politics you subscribe to are indeed the topic. Michelle goes to china to give a thumbs up to education....communism!

Yeah the state controls education in China.

The state controls education here.

What's the point ?

Yes, its called negotiation. you ask for a dollar, they say a dime, and you meet in the middle. no unions saying a dollar, and the employees get left with just a dime or take a walk.

Using thugs, and threats,cohersion , and intimidation is a 'negotiation' !

Ok then.

No, places like DETROIT exist when no penalties arise from foreign OUTSOURCING

That is hilarious.

Really.

Oh, the rich are definitely pitted against the middle and poor...and its obvious who is winning that battle

Yeah it is obvious who is winning there.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

online.wsj.com...

Hoorah!

Rob from the rich, give to the so called less fortunate so they can go out, and buy their 'made in China' stuff ! ! !

Keep defending the richest of the rich and demanding there is class warfare.

Yawn.

Household assets sit at 83 trillion dollars more than corporate assets.

over 2.2 trillion being spent on the big three, and the biggest beneficiaries are the poor, and the middle class.

Added up amount to over 128 trillion.

www.usdebtclock.org...

Then it must be reality that is twisted, because your "facts" seem to clash with actual facts.

Nope.

No, again, poor trade laws is the true reason

Nope.

That is financial regulation. and regulation.

With the addition of fiat currency.

A small part of that is 'trade laws', but not all of it.

Like someone is trying to place blame on.

The rest of your post is just to spouting platitudes of your political agenda. not significant in any actual discussion of whatever the hell the topic is here outside of a general rant.

If you say so that must make it so.

We done here ?

Or going to continue arguing agianst such a 'worthless' position ?

Your words.