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Mon1k3r
reply to post by orangetom1999
Awesome post.
Those are things I did not know about submarines. I'm more with you than against you on the idea, I guess I'm about 80/20 on the it's a bunch of crap side, but still, I would not be surprised. Truth has been stranger than fiction, at least for me, for a long time now.
whitewave
reply to post by RedFunfzhen
Still, no matter what power cabal is operating behind the scenes, there can be no doubt that the benefits to the American people have been significantly reduced of late.
I've been a CT "nutjob" since I was a teen proclaiming even then that, should we continue on our current path, we would see many of the very things that we currently see and was told year after year, "It'll never happen. The people won't allow it". Apparently the people WILL allow it.
There has been a serious uptick in looting the treasures (or shifting them from communal pockets into private pockets) since corporations were given the same rights and recognition of individual sovereignty as the American citizen.
There are a few videos online from the former director of the IRS (a woman whose name escapes me at this late hour) claiming that 100% of our income tax goes somewhere other than into the American coffers. I believe the stats were 40% to British bankers (not to Britain but to the bankers) and that 60% goes to the Vatican.
RedFunfzhen
And that is by design. For me, the key to stopping Them lies in digging up the past ...
With two thirds of everyone’s personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the federal debt and by federal government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services [that] taxpayers expect from their government
■The American Civil War was engineered and financed by the European elite in an effort to gain control of America's gold supply and her economic, therefore political, sovereignty.
■The 'Organization', in existence for millennia, created an alliance with both Confedereate Underground and influential UNionists in 1863 in order to begin collecting and securing the nation's gold supply.
■The 'Organization's' members include America's most capable and influential people - political, military, financial, industrial, scientific, religious, Masonic, etc.
■The Organization operates complertely autonomously from the elected United States government.
■The Organization relies on bloodline, blood oath and loyalty to maintain complete secrecy and support a belief system and objectives that outlive their members.
■The Organization's members, particularly on the lower levels, are unaware of the actions of those above them or parallel to them.
th3dudeabides
reply to post by whitewave
I'm not sure about this from what I've read.
From what I've read about this situation, some guy just bought California and is dividing it up. Almost sounds like a corporate take-over and then selling off the company for parts.
What basis do you have for asserting California was bought up and is being sold off piecemeal.
Bringing up the election controversy again, the president said, ''By the time it was over, our candidate had won the popular vote, and the only way they could win the election was to stop the voting in Florida.''
orangetom1999
For it is not much taught in public schools compared to the sanitized and authorized version of Lincoln.
There appears to be a dual Occult or hidden system at work here...a system for insiders and a system for the rest of us. But we are to think there is only one 'system in operation. A dual system is a system of Royalty..Feudalism...and we are back to England and the Continental system of doing business. The Royals, the Priesthood, and the serfs.
I have heard the same thing about Adolph Hitler..that he too excaped and
lived out his live until the late 1970s where he died on one of the Indonesian
Islands where he was carrying on as a doctor.
Very interesting what one learns when one works outside the official releases or versions of history...from the Egyptians to the Greeks and Romans unto today.
whitewave
If I'm understanding everyone correctly...there was never any need for a coup as such because we the people never really had any say in our government to start with.
Orangetom mentions that this pattern of subtlety has been ongoing for millennia, always increasing steps towards a predetermined goal and RedFunfzhen points out evidence of this pattern. The lack of ensuring our freedoms (which is the stated function of our government) and the increasing loss of liberties seem to indicate that the end goal is rapidly approaching. Is it even possible to stop this tyrannical march toward global enslavement?
Mon1k3r
I agree, and would like to discuss later, thank you.
whitewave
If I'm understanding everyone correctly...there was never any need for a coup as such because we the people never really had any say in our government to start with.
Orangetom mentions that this pattern of subtlety has been ongoing for millennia, always increasing steps towards a predetermined goal and RedFunfzhen points out evidence of this pattern. The lack of ensuring our freedoms (which is the stated function of our government) and the increasing loss of liberties seem to indicate that the end goal is rapidly approaching. Is it even possible to stop this tyrannical march toward global enslavement?
The American Public Education system is a joke. And that is by design. Folks like the Rockefellers have seen to that. That topic is a pretty big one, as well as part of The Plan. We don't educate and create critical thinkers. Rather, it is training. Job skills/social skills training/social & political indoctrination, not true education. The US outspends everyone, yet ranks poorly for those expenditures.
The simple truth is that a plan to dumb-down the American people was hatched in 1898 by John Dewey, the socialist educator, who persuaded his fellow socialists that the only way to change America from an individualistic society to a collectivist one was to dumb-down the American people. The easiest way to do it was to change the way reading is taught in our schools. Their plan was to get rid of the traditional phonics method that produces high literacy and replace it with a whole-word method that teaches American children to read English as if it were Chinese
Funny how the skeptics seem to want to hold me and others to a higher standard than other contemplative disciplines. We are not allowed to extrapolate, or provide circumstantial evidence, etc. While the skeptic uses such mechanisms in constructing their perception of reality and worldview, they'll deny folks like me those same mechanisms if my conclusions differ from theirs. It's quite the double standard. Like many other things, that is by design, as well - societies ingrained reaction to somebody suggesting things aren't quite what they seem and there may be no small amount of hanky-panky going on behind the scenes. Namely that they are a Conspiracy Theorist, a nutjob, a quack, etc.
Operation Paperclip was a real operation. The Vatican had its hands all over it and it involved smuggling out the top Nazi scientists, including folks like Werhner von Braun, who helped found NASA. von Braun was whitewashed and sold to the American public. The dude was a hardcore Nazi, as well as deeply steeped in the occult. The whole Nazi thing was bathed in Saturnalia.
Further, when the CIA was born out the WWII OSS, it was Prescott Bush, father and grandfather of the Bush Presidents, and the Dulles brothers who set it up. They consulted high ranking Gestapo folks for how to set up an effective intelligence agency. In addition, what is a fact and not debatable, is that during WWII, Prescott Bush got in trouble with FDR for violating the Trading With The Enemies Act, by setting up financing for Hitler through Union Bank.
Hitler was financed out of New York and London. Germany was devestated, economically, by WWI and the Treaty of Versaille. Yet, somehow, a few short years later, he had an incredible and incredibly expensive war machine built. The current Queen of England has the throne because her uncle abdicated around WWII. The lie foisted upon the public was that he gave up the throne for love, but the real reason was to get him out of the spotlight, as he was a supporter of Hitler. The Bilderberg group was started by Prince Bernhard - who was a member of the Nazi Party.
I'm longwinded and can talk about this stuff all day. And it is ALL related. Everything I have mentioned, plus whitewave's question she pose for discussion. Sorry if I am just wasting space in people's monitors with a bunch of long posts ...
I consider the subject (a full understanding and critical review of 'official' History) of utmost importance for anyone who has come to conclusions similar to mine - namely that there is something going on. Like, really going on. And it is large, well entrenched, well established and operated by people who have centuries, at the very least, of experience of knowing how to screw with us.
I know of a guy who is actively seeking those treasures of which you speak. I think one could devote a life
time to the effort and never be rewarded but I guess it's a lifestyle thing.
If I'm understanding everyone correctly...there was never any need for a coup as such because we the people never really had any say in our government to start with.
I too have come to this conclusion...that this group or groups have been around for a long time..perhapsed going back to the first great civilizatations in the Middle East and North Africa.
I do know that the KGC worked both sides of the Civil War..on the North as well as the South. There appear to be other groups and organizations who worked with them..
inside and outside the Americas.
There appeared to be lots of European interference
in the American Civil war. but much of this informations seems to be
missing from most public education today.
This too was a surprise for me to discover. My first inclination that this was true was a book by a fellow most think was crazy and the media seemed to take great efforts
to paint him so..but when I saw in his books how many interconnecting families
there were here in American and Canada..I felt that the author was on to
something. His name was Lyndon LaRouche.
Agree with this assessment and also will add that the Organization on occasion seems
to be able to give marching orders to the US Government and the Government is their
boot lacky to do their bidding and protect their international investments when they go bad..like in Iraq.
I too am noting this and it goes way back into history...the secrecy and blood family ties..internationally. Like Whitewave..I believe their is a spiritual side to this and that it is a secret and devout/zealous religious belief system and very olde.
Thanks,
Orangetom