DHS Insider Warns “Preparations Have Been Finalized To Respond To A Crisis Of Unprecedented Magnit

reply to post by Feltrick


That's a very narrow viewpoint you have there.

While on the surface it seems like a valid argument, when you start looking at the motivations of people... it falls flat on its face.

Under a controlled collapse where any banking institution is rendered inoperable and no money can flow, money becomes the furthest object in most peoples minds.

In your scenario, you say that when the money stops flowing, how will they pay the troops that will be putting their boots on your neck.
Easy.

Food, shelter and guaranteed safety... Not only for them, but their immediate family.

If a soldier is not a prepper and is a newly found family man... What do you think this soldier would do to ensure their family is fed and kept safe?
Perhaps following orders that you believe they wouldn't follow because they aren't getting some fiat paper currency.

reply to post by Sovaka


Interesting. So, in your theory, the gov't trades food, shelter and protection for the families and in return the soldiers/agents go out and take the arms from the citizens. Right? What about all of the soldiers who have firearms? Do they get to keep them or do they also have to turn them in?

So, how well do you think soldiers fight who are being forced? Better or worse than those who volunteer? It's worse. Morale would plummet, desertions would increase and all of these disillusioned soldiers/agents would join with the resistance. Yes, there would be a powerful and highly motivated resistance as they are fighting for their lives.

So, our all-knowing and all-powerful gov't that wanted to take over the country would eventually be overthrown. Of course, you could say that the UN could be brought in to quell the resistance but, looking at history, the UN just isn't that effective. How many countries can even afford to send troops?

Sorry, but when I look at the scenarios, none of it seems plausible. The only way it could be plausible would be if the gov't was truly all-powerful and all-knowing and, take it from an insider, it ain't. There are simply too many moving parts and assumptions.

reply to post by Feltrick


Still not seeing it are you.

If they can go to such depths of what they have portrayed... What makes you think they wouldn't BE the resistance?

Seems like the perfect plan to me.

Raise the system up, systematically destroy it with corruption.
Bring everyone to their knees literally and then come in like the savior.

Once everyone has been broken and only a shell remain, come in, restore peace and impart a total control system.
Where they are the only ones left with power and no one left to stand against them.

Seems to me like they would be solving all their issues quite easily without doing any of the heavy lifting.
Sounds to me like it fits them like a glove.

Then of course, it would also require the total cooperation of all other countries to succeed.
If the other countries don't fall to a similar fate.
Perhaps during all this a rogue commander (like the so many recently relieved of their command) launches a few nuclear missiles towards other countries.

So many scenarios, so many plausible situations.

My friend... You need to play chess and understand your enemy.

Not the enemy here "sport' (sarcastic much?) And there is your problem: perception of what you THINK and how you IMAGINE things.

Remember this: all of us volunteer and train to help you all survive...but youre not getting that at all.

Lump us citizens with our own families, firearms, disaster preps and understand this ok?

After we help you all, and treat you in a SHTF scenario...the PTB are gonna come after us last...try to take OUR guns and throw us on the camp trains you imagine to exist.

We KNOW this...but we are gonna help you all FIRST..."sport".

I would be more worried about stuff like a meteor hit, earthquake, volcano, or something weather related. That's real talk!

reply to post by alienreality


I appreciate the appreciation but you guys just STOP! We don't do this because of some need to stroke our egos. We do it because we like it.

I myself am a Medical Triage Specialist or "bag em and tag em" if you will. I can assess an injured man, woman or child, tag em with a ribbon and get them moving to treatment. Its the most basic, but the point is to get them pre-assessed and the hell out of there. And I can do that in 90 secs or less because Im good at what I do.

And I LOVE doing this, I LOVE it and helping people. And I too carry Defender PDX+1/124 gr hollow points in my own home firearm. Means ditty.

mysterioustranger
reply to post by wills120

 

Tough one. You ask a very good question here I'd like everyone understand.

All us First Responders, FEMA and HOMELAND SECURITY and ERT members everyone is afraid of dragging you off to "camps"? We all have families... And in that time...I wouldn't be afraid of us coming to help you.

We too are firearm owners, and most have families at home with weapons. I have 450 team members on our Emergency Response Team. 3/4 of us have permits and carry ourselves.

1 owns a gun shop, and another is an NRA training instructor, and several are police officers and in other areas of law enforcement. But, Im thinking I don't know of even ONE of us...who would turn in or give up our own weapons.

We TOO are afraid that in a Marshall Law scenario...the military will come and take ours as well.

Thanks!

edit on 09-22-2013 by mysterioustranger because: (no reason given)

Well said. I appreciate your service to us.

You confirmed what I've thought for a while....wearing the badge isn't going to help TPTB gain control of this country (well, they have already). But unless it's Martial Law, it's going to be the same cloak & dagger stuff we've experienced for some time - too many people will refuse to throw away The Constitution in times of trial. You can stand with us in those times.

....and btw, that's if you're to be believed. Don't take it the wrong way - a lot of disinformation out there but I do believe you're telling the truth.

I think it's interesting that xeunchen was the first to comment on this particular thread, considering he shared the same information just a couple of weeks ago. Amazingly, he made the exact same statement as well.
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reply to post by stopbeingnaive


There are 2 types of people in this world - givers and takers.

If you are a giver and you listen to a taker talk - it is almost mind numbing.

For example - 2 co-workers I was working with this evening were discussing having their child born at a particular hospital in the area - The one who had had his child a year ago "That hospitals great - they babysit your kid for 3 days - the nurse will feed it, change it - and they feed you, and the mother as well. (He is the father)"

The giver was like "Do they really not let you leave the hospital if your carseat isn't inspected first?"

"I don't know - I wasn't there when they (mom and child) left the hospital - but the food was really good".

reply to post by Happy1


Cool story, bro.

reply to post by mysterioustranger


And if you're told you and your family. along with your team members families will be well looked after and safe..if you just follow orders, those orders being a hypothetical disarm citizens, round them up and...worse (!)..what then?

Would you save your own skins and sacrifice the public, or urge your team to arrest and detain those whispering sweet nothings in your ears?

This IS hypothetical, so you can be honest.

reply to post by mysterioustranger

And I too carry Defender PDX+1/124 gr hollow points in my own home firearm. Means ditty.

Being in the medical game, you are obviously acutely aware of the terrible damage a hollow point round Vs ordinary round will do...for those who don't, the difference is a HP round will take huge chunks, limbs and so on off a victim...an ordinary round will make a small hole. Both have the capacity to wound and kill of course, the difference is, death is FAR more likely to occur when a victim is hit with hollow points.

The question i have i suppose is why you feel the need for the overkill?

Just a really quick and dirty Google search of this website brought a full page of stories that would be in the skunk works or hoax forums here on ATS. Take what you will from that. It's a member based website similar to this one without the filters.

havok
Doesn't matter at this point. If you haven't learned to live without...it's too late.

So an engineered crisis takes place...big deal. We all collectively had years to prepare for any type of scenario, be it economic, social or natural. The past teaches us how to live and learn the skill sets to avoid future mistakes. If we haven't learned by now to be self-sufficient, then we have no one else to blame but ourselves. We all had the time to learn. But did we use it wisely?

Being prepared doesn't qualify someone as being a "conspiracy theorist loony". It means that instead of wasting the last few years watching TV, spending money on frivolous things, being consumed with social media, or just outright spending time being a brain-washed consumer zombie...but instead planning how to grow food, maintain a community, staying healthy and active, keeping stock of non-perishables and water, basically learning how to survive without the "grid".

So that if the inevitable takes place, we are ready not worried. The coming "collapse" means nothing because we have learned to live without their system.

oh wait....not everyone has paid attention...too bad...such a shame.

So basically folks if you've lived the last few years enjoying life, having any fun you've frittered away any chance of being safe. But if you've lived the past few years in paranoid fear squirreling away food ,ammo, and supplies you're ok.
The second option of course is not living.

reply to post by Feltrick


Yours is possibly the best post I've ever read on this website. Way to go. Well said and so very very true. Thanks for being a member here.

reply to post by PurpleDog UK


Funny I don't remember those two days when the sun didn't rise and you'd think that would be something all of us would remember. When was that again? Maybe I was sick and slept through it.
The eatths axis did change a few times. Last was with the earthquake in Japan on March 11, 2011. I didn't even need to look up that date so that shows there's nothing wrong with my memory.

reply to post by MysterX


You've obviously missed the point of this member's post which was "damned if you do and damed if you don't"

reply to post by MysterX


Some folks don't know that when it's winter here it's summer south of the equator. I wonder if they know that when it's day time in the east it's night time in the west? That's like that guy who thought the moon would align with a particular country and not with the whole planet. Some school systems are seriously underfunded apparently.

reply to post by mikegrouchy


What does the Boston bombing have to do with the price of gold ? Let's pretend that I am completely ignorant and build that case from the ground up. (Of course that requires a hugh suspension of disbelief regarding my intelligence but humor me)

HEGELIAN DIALECT:
Problem. Crisis. Solution.

____________________________
1a) PROBLEM
Americans have too many guns.

2a) CRISIS
Manufactured Economic Crash → Manufactured Food Shortage → Forced starvation in America.

3a) SOLUTION
Make guns a vital currency → Trade food, medical, fuel etc for guns.
=Large percentages of guns are removed from urban population centers.

___________________________
1b) PROBLEM
Rural Americans still hold guns and stored/produced food.

2b) CRISIS
Build fear of Domestic Terrorism → False flag attacks + propoganda

2b) SOLUTION
Enhance fear through media→ Earn support for use of force → Use force to disarm rural states
= Rural states disarmed, strong dissenters eliminated or imprisoned.


The smartest (and most diabolical) minds have been working these problems out for decades. They know they couldn't bum rush Americans for our guns. We are seeing the 'frog in the pot' strategy unfolding, building public sentiment against gun ownership.
I'm not predicting my specific theory will happen, but the heat will get turned up on us frogs, I can promise that.