Your Mental/Illusion/Matrix based programing is inherited through parents. The Implications?

Hear me out. This is all theoretical based on factual news article, but also highly likely, with huge implications!!!!

It has to do with this News Article:

Fear can be inherited through sperm Offspring's genes carry marks that change gene's behaviour

Lab mice trained to fear a particular smell can transfer the impulse to their unborn sons and grandsons through a mechanism in their sperm, a study reveals.

The research claims to provide evidence for the concept of animals "inheriting" a memory of their ancestors' traumas, and responding as if they had lived the events themselves.

It is the latest find in the study of epigenetics, in which environmental factors are said to cause genes to start behaving differently without any change to their underlying DNA encoding.

"Knowing how ancestral experiences influence descendant generations will allow us to understand more about the development of neuropsychiatric disorders that have a transgenerational basis," says study co-author Brian Dias of the Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta, Georgia.

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So basically, we can say that the illusions, fears, mental programming constructs are carried over from human parents to their children as well, just like in those mice. This is something I have been thinking was possible for the last 15 years and now seeing this article is like a huge redemption.


Some of the implications are:
1. Adam/Eve Original Sin carrying over
2. Racial Stereotypes being true
3. Country Stereo-types being true
4. Any inherited programming via an original creator/programmer or who knows what

Hear me out on # 4.
Since we are now entering a Scientific era of manipulating the human genome to fight/cure disease, control the color of eyes, skin, height, strength, etc We can possibly say, that however humans came into being (yes I know its controversial. Evolution vs. I.D.), speculating on intelligent design, lets say by some higher technological race, or a "God", or whatever the case may be, we can see there are clear limitations "installed?" within the human program via limited lifespan, limited health, and various other limits.
And yet, scientists are finding the switches to turn off for 800+ year lifespans, super-immune systems, naturally big muscles, bigger height, bigger brains(intelligence), etc

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ALso, this mechanism through the Sperm through which genetic imprints/memories are carried on, via the parents, almost sounds like all the woo and psuedo-science that all the skeptics used to say doesn't exist.

It sounds like thought is being imprinted onto physicality.material realm. Conscious imprints into atoms.

A whole other can of worms there!!!!!

That would give credence to all the 'past life' memories people claim to have.

Might even help explain some schizophrenia!

S&F

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Feedback from the external environment on a genetic level has always seemed likely to me. It would be an obvious survival strategy for life. That is...to pass on a strongly conditioned emotional response. I wouldn't bother with all that Adam and Eve nonsense though.

We are genetically conditioned for love as well.

Perhaps it's our destiny to discover what makes us tick and ultimately sort ourselves out.

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And yet, scientists are finding the switches to turn off for 800+ year lifespans, super-immune systems, naturally big muscles, bigger height, bigger brains(intelligence), etc

Not forgetting the possibility of shorter lives, weaker immune systems, smaller brains etc. If it can be tweaked one way, why not the other.
Just who IS in charge of the next 50 years.

TerryMcGuire
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And yet, scientists are finding the switches to turn off for 800+ year lifespans, super-immune systems, naturally big muscles, bigger height, bigger brains(intelligence), etc

Not forgetting the possibility of shorter lives, weaker immune systems, smaller brains etc. If it can be tweaked one way, why not the other.
Just who IS in charge of the next 50 years.

That is the million dollar question:

If there are genetic switches that turn off aging and can give rise to 800+ year lifespans, why the heck is the switch turned on to give us only max 120? I just don't buy into it being a random act of nature & evolution, because if it's all about survival of the fittest and for the longest amount of time, then we would already be at 800+ years. Obviously there is genetic programming in place to keep us limited to certain extents

Feedback from the external environment on a genetic level has always seemed likely to me. It would be an obvious survival strategy for life. That is...to pass on a strongly conditioned emotional response.

Hey you said it: "an obvious survival strategy for life." Life wants to live, not die, so it should have evolved to a point of 800+ year lifespans by now. Science has shown it is genetically possible, so why is the limit in place?

I wouldn't bother with all that Adam and Eve nonsense though.

Why not? Scientists are in agreement that there is a genetic/biological first male/female homo sapiens which gave rise to the rest. Perfectly applicable.

I must be adopted then. I couldn't be any different from my parents and grandparents.

I have been fascinated with this subject for a while now, and it is part of the reason that I recently wrote in a thread that though we tend to separate "spiritual" phenomena from "physical", I suspect there is actually no difference. We call certain things paranormal because we just haven't figured out the physics of it- yet.

When I first came to this area I live in now (a part of southeastern France) I suddenly felt as if I was "home"- though I was born and raised in California, and had never been here. It all felt familiar and I described it as if I could feel a connection in my bones and blood.

Ten years after moving here, my father back in Calif. Was doing geneology research and found out that I have a great, great, great grandmother that was french. She was a protestant that fled to America. She was originally from this specific area, from a long line of weavers!

So we might point to ideas like reincarnation, or ghostly anscestors, when perhaps it is simply memory inscribed in genes.

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This is amazing and true. DNA has the matrix illusion encoded within it and data from all our previous life forms. You can access this

The experiment where an amoeba consistently finds the shortest way through a maze to a food source like the double slit experiment of quantum physics poses more questions than it answers if it answers any at all (perspective). From my experiences on different levels of consciousness starting on an atomic all the way up to universal and beyond I can tell you that everything possesses MIND and WILL. From an amoeba finding its way around a peatree dish to a star and any and all matter it all has a purpose driven desire and experiences the world around using whatever senses the god force has endowed upon it while always seeking harmony and homeostasis.

Everything is relative, nothing in this universe exists in and of itself. The conscious desire of God was to have split his consciousness due to feeling lonely(notice ONE). On the highest plane of "existence" there is Christ consciousness which is observed as a sphere of pure white light and orbiting around it similarly to Saturn's rings are SHARDS (Like broken Glass) of pure energy light particles glowing and pulsing radiant energy same as the sphere. After transcending this plane there becomes nothing, one is all alone and in fact one doesn't even seem to exist as if there isn't even ONE. There is a deadness, a quiet like nothing you could imagine. Then, one's mental visions return suddenly, and reappear from nothing like a hologram in dead space and you then realize all of the universe is your projection, that everything that has ever happened to you that you willed it, asked for it, wanted it. That you create what you want to dream, that pain and sadness, joy and ecstasy keep you entertained. That you are eternal, infinite all knowing. And it feels amazing, you can move a star at will; make it zig zag blink at you whatever, change the colors of the street lights, set off every car alarm in the neighborhood with your mind, anything and its a pure state of joy and love. And it feels sad. Sad to know what you are, that you are alone, that this is just an illusion. And that you always will be.. forever and ever and there is no one to save you, no one can kill you and no one else is there to hear you. All there is, is you.

On the spirtual or mental plane( My ego is still young 23) I encountered an entity that many would call Satan. He was a sharp looking black man with a nice fade and short curly hair in a shimmering black old school gangster business suit smoking a cigar in a huge hall with a checker patterned black and white floor. He showed me my various existences in other worlds/universes. I had a feeling like I known him forever. A lot of this was filled with tragedy, close calls, and very emotionally strong experiences. He showed me all the riches I ever could dream of some of the most amazingly cool and beautiful things that far transcend all the riches of this world. We came at last to some golden gates. Everything in these scenes was more fiery, more intense and brighter than anything of this world. His eyes burned red with fire but i was not afraid of him at all. But at these gates which were to me the gates of heaven and I could see paradise within (which was empty fyi there wasn't anyone there) he said "WE HAD A DEAL." Then my visions instantly changed to scary things. Rag dolls that oozed black blood and primitive weapons like axes and dark lines crawling through my vision. I stopped wanting to see it and it went away and that is when I saw the Ginormous sphere of pulsing white light.

Interestingly enough when the devil was showing me visions I saw Chris brown as a half red REPTILIAN demon like entity (it was like i could see beneath his skin) as well as a few other actors that aren't famous enough for me to know their names. I also recall seeing a futuristic planet with huge skyscrapers like new york except they looked metallic and were different colors like blue and red and shaped kind of like space rockets. On this planet they had different alphabetical symbols on their ipad like devices but so much better, transforming flying cars that looked like the batmobile from the new movies, and tv screens that had nothing solid to them and seemed to hover in the air and unlike projection screens the picture didnt reflect off the wall. The image just stood by itself in thin air razor thin like you could walk around it or through it. The picture clarity of the movies was suuuuperb the sound was penetrating deep inside you like you were there when they filmed transformers.

And I saw the future developing through the many stages of cycles and each cycle spinning off another cycle from itself like an exponentially growing quadratic equation in patterns and revolutions however as different parallel universes. I saw evolution and technology continually advancing like this until everything reached an apex and at this point saw a golden flash appear off the apex of the cycle in my mind and then it was time for the cycle to finish its circular revolution and RETURN to where it all BEGAN. I saw where my location was in this cycle and it was near maybe about 15-20 degrees from the peak or apex of the cycle where the golden flash had occurred.


I also encountered another entity that looked kind of like a NORDIC HE MAN Super saiyan with bluish aura

Words, symbols, gender, masons, history, biology and the bible all came into clear focus.
I saw myself as a father disciplining a teenage son and giving advice (which is what im used to getting instead lol)
A troublemaker in some futuristic police state being desperately asked why I did something by a detective type who knew me personally. They had a room full of cameras video taping everything in the city and I had led police on a wild chase that ended up revealing a sick truth that they were actually leeches to society or something like that
A Paul Walker looking guy in a badass silver whip looking at myself on a sunny day along a strip with palm trees in the side view mirror smirking
and more

There was a background feeling that the older generations of people (or whatever race there's more than humans but they are similar) hold on to controlling things (like politics or businesses) for too long and in extreme fear of change instead of allowing succeeding generations to take over as if they're too scared to let that happen and it creates serious problems and unnecessary misery.

On different planes there are different forces. Duality is HUGE on this one like the serpent eating itself -vs +
I also noticed things become more complex/advanced to satisfy the desire for change, but also require more energy to sustain, and reminiscing being a simpler organism with simple desires is less intense and relaxing.
I can sometimes read people like a red blood cell recognizes a white blood cells function in the body and understand everything in their nature as it relates to their worldly functions

Most profound was my experience that I could be any creature, organism or the like at any point in time of the cyclic universe whenever i wanted like I could just leave this meat suit whenever I wanted but I felt as if I was exactly where I wanted to Be.

Pretty much thats my wild now told experience of spirituality and god

Feedback from the external environment on a genetic level has always seemed likely to me. It would be an obvious survival strategy for life. That is...to pass on a strongly conditioned emotional response.

"Hey you said it: "an obvious survival strategy for life." Life wants to live, not die, so it should have evolved to a point of 800+ year lifespans by now. Science has shown it is genetically possible, so why is the limit in place?"

Perhaps things aren't quite so simple. The lifespan that we have may be what is optimum for humans at this moment. Life indeed appears to want to live but death...at least up till now...has enabled life to progress through change. Isn't it amazing that life has now almost reached the point where it no longer reacts blindly but can modify itself?

I wouldn't bother with all that Adam and Eve nonsense though.

"Why not? Scientists are in agreement that there is a genetic/biological first male/female homo sapiens which gave rise to the rest. Perfectly applicable."

You said 'original sin'.

What sin would that be?

And please remember environmental feedback mechanisms don't just apply to humans.

Sorry to say but as soon as Adam and Eve, then original sin were introduced into this theory, it's credulity went out the window in my opinion.

pryed -eyed-one
Sorry to say but as soon as Adam and Eve, then original sin were introduced into this theory, it's credulity went out the window in my opinion.

edit on 4-1-2014 by pryed -eyed-one because: (no reason given)

You must not read science news then, and be stuck in some form of reality you think to be a certain way, based on lack of knowing all the latest news. It's already a scientific fact there was a Genetic Adam & Eve. Whether the origins of those 2 are evolutionary or under the guise of some other means, is where the controversy and debate lay.

Here you go (from Nature International Weekly Journal of Science)

The Book of Genesis puts Adam and Eve together in the Garden of Eden, but geneticists’ version of the duo — the ancestors to whom the Y chromosomes and mitochondrial DNA of today’s humans can be traced — were thought to have lived tens of thousands of years apart. Now, two major studies of modern humans’ Y chromosomes suggest that ‘Y-chromosome Adam’ and ‘mitochondrial Eve’ may have lived around the same time after all

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Not only that, considering there also also religious folks, christians, muslims, jews, etc, that visit ats, this thread also applies to many of their theories, stories, myths, what ever you want to label them as. It has far reaching implications, not just scientific, though perhaps we can say many of the implications are areas which science has yet to discover.

SO your assumption that the theory is "bunk" because I added "theoretical adam & eve" for the sake of discussion, is actually a bunk assumption

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4. Any inherited programming via an original creator/programmer or who knows what

Do you mean self training / learning from a previous lifetime or what a MK Ultra 'handler' forces into a person when they split the person's soul into multiple 'alters' ?
Its just that MK Ultra 'handlers' also go by the name 'programmers' as they program their victim to do unimaginable things to other people.

Also faith in Jesus Christ erases and destroys all sinful programs once the person repents. This agrees with point 1 where the sin part of a persons DNA is destroyed whilst the faith is maintained.

Sure I can believe this as a possibility but it doesn't seem to always translate -

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Do you mean self training / learning from a previous lifetime or what a MK Ultra 'handler' forces into a person when they split the person's soul into multiple 'alters' ? Its just that MK Ultra 'handlers' also go by the name 'programmers' as they program their victim to do unimaginable things to other people.

No not like mk ultra. More so like, where are the programs and orders coming from so that DNA, Cells, Amoeba, Mitochondria, Atoms, Quarks, do what they do? Atoms are all structured specific ways according to specific blueprints, maps, programs, etc.

Also faith in Jesus Christ erases and destroys all sinful programs once the person repents. This agrees with point 1 where the sin part of a persons DNA is destroyed whilst the faith is maintained.

I disagree. I know a ton of Christian with "Faith" who still fail by the programming to steal, lust, swear, jealousy, greed, corruption, etc.

I think only a hard core Christian Monk who is off in some monastery/cave who gets visited by Grace and goes deep within can restructure and erase the programming

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Remember its just theoretical its from a news article. As the study of epignetics itself is a new can we not start claiming that fear is not conditioned( or external to us) that fear is inherited in your dna.

Neuroscientists already have a theory on memory storage in the physical brain- much of this theory is unexplained and having a new theory of memory stored in the dna .
They( MSS) do not fully understand DNA. Some say these science sheeple media releases are 20 years behind cutting edge secret research and yet whose body is living (longer) or 800 years now days & who is switching off genes and stopping dis ease today.
I think its a bit of a msm fear monger piece, you have fear in your dna, so be fearful.

Collective (un) consciousness?
Means the information is out there to tune into at will contained in it would be informations (such as the warning of scientists hurting mice and spraying smells at them). In this collective unconscious theory the knowledge of the experiences of your ancesters would also be yours. Nothing would be separate if connected.
If I were a mouse born into a lab of big animals whose purpose in life was hurting and torturing small animals, I could smell the fear, I too would be one fearful mouse.

dominicus


And yet, scientists are finding the switches to turn off for 800+ year lifespans, super-immune systems, naturally big muscles, bigger height, bigger brains(intelligence), etc

Most people don't even have 100 good years of clear thought, just think how much one could figure out after 800 years. Our overlords would not want the natives to get restless, now would they.

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The implication of being in the grip of the tyranny of theories.
The implications of believing what you are told= of being conditioned by news?
You think that memories of fearful experiences are in your fathers sperm(or that its in your dna) because a scientist in the "matrix" told you it was so.
The matrix has you.

Ok Neo I think I'm finished.

BDBinc
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The implication of being in the grip of the tyranny of theories.

Quite paradoxical, because what you say also sounds like another theory

The implications of believing what you are told= of being conditioned by news?

You know, not all science news is conditioning. A tree having green leaves and wind blowing at 25 mph, is something I can go and test for myself. This news article simply solidifies something I've had a hunch about for well over a decade. I wonder if you inherited your super skepticism about all things via your mother or father.

You think that memories of fearful experiences are in your fathers sperm(or that its in your dna) because a scientist in the "matrix" told you it was so.

Not because they told me so, but because I've always felt it IS this way deep in the gut and intuitive senses. This article is just a redemption. But hey, if you think it's all lies, then so is everything you "think."

The matrix has you.

If it does have me, then it has you equally as much no matter how many theories and ideas you hold. In my case, there is a direct knowing and seeing that "I" am not the thinker of thoughts or any illusions that arise in Awareness

dominicus

BDBinc
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The implication of being in the grip of the tyranny of theories.

Quite paradoxical, because what you say also sounds like another theory

The implications of believing what you are told= of being conditioned by news?

You know, not all science news is conditioning. A tree having green leaves and wind blowing at 25 mph, is something I can go and test for myself. This news article simply solidifies something I've had a hunch about for well over a decade. I wonder if you inherited your super skepticism about all things via your mother or father.

You think that memories of fearful experiences are in your fathers sperm(or that its in your dna) because a scientist in the "matrix" told you it was so.

Not because they told me so, but because I've always felt it IS this way deep in the gut and intuitive senses. This article is just a redemption. But hey, if you think it's all lies, then so is everything you "think."

The matrix has you.

If it does have me, then it has you equally as much no matter how many theories and ideas you hold. In my case, there is a direct knowing and seeing that "I" am not the thinker of thoughts or any illusions that arise in Awareness

If the Matrix has you why does it equally have me?
Who was it that was promoting the latest mainstream 'scientific' THEORY on fear and memory? You not me.


If, as you say you are not the thinker, what then (do you think) is is being "redeemed" by the article? You didn't write a theory on fear being contained in sperm or inherited . So how can you feel you are being redeemed?
Am I in highlighting that its just a theory (a news story in the matrix) and not a fact interfering with your ego's "redemption". Awareness does not need or seek redemption.

I am sorry that you think that for me to propose consciousness that I was proposing just another a theory.