Israel kills another 3 year old girl with her mother and wounded dozens of others - Christmas day

reply to post by DJW001

Oh , I could have a debate with you if you provide me the things you believe, that I am "ignorant", so i can point you out even more information.

Anyway, Palestine in a personal perspective, is like Cyprus. Turks invaded, murdered, robbed Cyprian's land and houses, they split families, raped, etc. And today nobody recognizes their "turk democracy of Cyprus". And if we go even more ancient, they did the same thing with Greece, today Turkey is the ancient Greece (a part of it).
In the Israel case, the nazi war helped jews to invade and do the same thing to Palestinians. So its logical that many palestinians or many group of locals, dont accept israel. I understand it.

But what makes israelis look really bad, is that they use the American money and safety omprella, so even today, they violate Palestine borders, by building new houses in areas that they shouldn't, also use military forces and resources, to kill Palestinians in a daily bases.
If there are some criminals that sniping israeli troops, by invading or making spec ops missions to kill 3 year old babies, looks very bad, also for americans who support them.

In the other hand, they dare to speak about Iran nukes, while Israel, Korea and 1 more, is the only states, in the planet that they dont allow to check them, or sign up the treatment about weapons and nukes. That alone makes them a rogue state.

And dont tell me the 3 year old baby was an bad accident.. Only on ATS, you can find up to 50 topics in different dates, about israelis killing palestian babies. Just a consideration now... If a group of soldiers come into your neighborhood and kill your baby, are you going to kill one of them, or any of them? Is that making you a criminal? I am not referring to the elders, I only speak about the babies... so g#$, so many incidents, stop being an accident or a coincidence.

reply to post by buster2010


I think if Canada or Mexico started shooting Americans dead in a significant way from across the border a buffer zone would be established and that buffer zone would only be the beginning of their issues.

reply to post by Ploutonas

Jews and moggols are similar

Who is a moggol?

DJW001

buster2010

DJW001
reply to post by buster2010

 

How is Palestine breaking that law they are not stealing land and the buffer zone is just nonsense.

Not only is "Palestine" (there are two of them now) not enforcing what agreements they have, the "government" in the Gaza strip is actively encouraging its citizens to kill Israelis. How would the US react if Canada refused to acknowledge that the United States exists, and smuggled arms and explosives across the border in an attempt to kill its neighbors?

Palestine has recognized Israel as a state in every peace agreement they have signed with Israel so that lame argument is getting old. And since when did Americans take offense to a people defending themselves like the Palestinians are doing.

Except that the Gaza Strip is now run by Hamas, which refuses to accept the right of Israel to exist. Why do you keep conveniently forgetting that there is no unified Palestine? As for Hamas "defending" itself, if Hamas spent half the effort it spends on trying to kill Israelis on building a safe and prosperous Palestinian state, Palestine, Israel, Lebanon and Jordan could create a free trade zone that would become the center of economic gravity for the region. This is why a certain non-Arab country in the region is waging such a vicious proxy war.

You seem to overlook that Gaza is nothing but a prison camp you cannot put people under those conditions and expect everyone to be passive. Israel has never tried to help build a safe and prosperous Palestinian state is purposely targeting schools, hospitals, water treatment plants and power plants is their way of helping to build a safe and prosperous Palestinian state. And how can their be a unified Palestine when another nation has cut it to pieces?

whywhynot
reply to post by buster2010

 

I think if Canada or Mexico started shooting Americans dead in a significant way from across the border a buffer zone would be established and that buffer zone would only be the beginning of their issues.

Well if American snipers were playing see how close you can get to the kid like Israeli snipers do then wouldn't you say Canada and Mexico have a right to protect their children?

reply to post by buster2010

You said:

How do you think Mexico and Canada would react if America started stealing land saying we need a buffer zone.

I said:

I think if Canada or Mexico started shooting Americans dead in a significant way from across the border a buffer zone would be established and that buffer zone would only be the beginning of their issues.

You then tried to reverse your course and said:

Well if American snipers were playing see how close you can get to the kid like Israeli snipers do then wouldn't you say Canada and Mexico have a right to protect their children?

And I reply:

You prove my point in this and in other replies to you in this thread, if belligerents are killing each other across a national border it would be rational to expect to see a buffer zone established between the belligerents.

reply to post by buster2010

You seem to overlook that Gaza is nothing but a prison camp

There are a lot of propaganda photos released from all sides of this conflict but I went to Google and pulled an unbiased actual photo of your "prison", check it out. Notice the Palestinian flag if you doubt it

Remember folks... when Israel does it.. its "self defense".





Oh and in reference to the "Gaza Beach" picture? Well hey.. they have a beach (that they can't go out more than a mile past).. so all is right with the world.

As long as those pesky Palestinian's have a beach.. then things like THIS



don't matter...

reply to post by DerekJR321


They also have fine dining and pretty cool hotels, but you knew that. You can't hide the truth.

reply to post by whywhynot


we call moggols, as a fefinition for race... Its not an insult.. Its more like, ethyopians... Moggols are all asiatic with specific characteristics and blood types. There is also a Mongolia near china.. lol


Moggols (thats how we call them), are a result of chinese and western races, they lived in caves near china, they start killing each other and expanded in western lands, killing everything and stealing everything. (I speak about ancient years). Normally, a chinese is different race from a moggol, but they all come from the same species... so Instead of typing (moggols, jews, chinese, etc etc etc).. I type " Moggol" and its just fine.

Jews are a result of Moggols and Greeks. (they mixed at the age of Abraham their prophet with Danaus race part of greece). Thats why a part of jews, call them selfs Dan, but they are not even close to Dan... Because its a mix. Most of jews took from Germanics, Scandinavians, Jews have 12-13 races, they seperate them selfs. But even DAN race, is easy to seperate them from a original Greek. Jews ahve heavier characteristics and a bit shorter body type.

Today in Greece only the 40%-46% keeps the original blood types and characteristics... All the rest is also between greek and germanic. Irish, celts and americans after took from Greeks allot. Lets not speak about races, there is allready topics about it...

reply to post by Ploutonas


It would appear that english is not your first language. I do not imply this as any type of insult simply an observation to help us communicate. Many of the words that you use are not found in the english language such as moguls and fefinition please check here to see if it is a real word: www.oxforddictionaries.com...

Did you learn your history in a school or was it handed down to you thru oral tradition? What country did you live in when you studied history?

How would the US react if
Canada refused to acknowledge that the United States exists

Good point . . . there is a DEFINED BORDER between u.s.a and
canada, thus they are recognizable.
On the other hand, israel doesn't give itself a
DEFINED BORDER. No defined border then the world does
not need to recognized something that is not defined.

There exists only two choices, multi-national or
jewish only under the Oslo agreed defined border.
Nothing more, nothing less, no if's or but's.
The world excepts this, now it's time for israel to stop farting around
and take some responsibility.


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reply to post by ToneDeaf


This "BORDER looks pretty defined to me

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Fact is, zionists have no DEFINED BORDER that they
themselves recognize nore honor. Lol

Products manufactured in illegal settlements
are labeled as made
in Palestine. , So why should
anyone recognize them ? esp if they themselves hide behind this illegal fact.
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reply to post by ToneDeaf


Well at least you learned how to spell border. Perhaps you will be open to further education.

The Isreal haters are out in force again.

Funny how most seem to be from the US, responsible for this type of atrocity almost EVERY day through the use of drones.

Criticise Isreal all you like but come on, The US of A is much worse by far. Sort out your own child killing govt's first before laying so much blame on others countries that find themselves in REAL conflicts not pretend, corporate manufactured ones.

You all claim to want the best for the kids yet your representitives are killing innocents all the time and yet you do nothing.

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED....ALL OF YOU.

Isreal needs to stop this, the Palestinians are just as bad and need to stop this. Above all, the US needs to stop with their drones as no normal person the world over trusts to the US anymore, total hypocrites. As far as you US citizens are concerned. How on earth can you critisize any other countrys behaviour while you are responsible for almost daily drone attacks in countries you have nothing at all to do with. It beggers belief. Sort out your own issues first, you are letting the rest of us down. Grow some balls and get rid of the murderers in control of your country. Until you do, stop telling the rest of us how we should behave.





One more thing, your tax money buys isreal their weapons. You guys pay for Isreal, you guys are as much to blame. Again, hypocrites, the lot of you. The source of the isreal problem is the US. You give them their weapons!!!!

whywhynot
Well at least you learned how to spell border.
Perhaps you will be open to further education.

Resorting to personal jabs/lame insults is a fail.
Too bad, you could not handle sharing facts in an adult manner
namely because you have no factual grounds. pardon the pun.
No sense in anyone wasting their time with your mud slinging.

It is the end of the line,
Either: As they wish for a jews-Only state in a DEFINED BORDER
as agreed under Oslo accord, or a
Truly democratic Multi-national state.
Nothing less, nothing more.


Just one question,
Why would anyone want to rebuild king herods temple ? why on earth ? what for ? ?

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ToneDeaf

Just one question,
Why would anyone want to rebuild king herods temple ? why on earth ? what for ? ?

it's the holiest site for the jews.

ToneDeaf

whywhynot
Well at least you learned how to spell border.
Perhaps you will be open to further education.

Resorting to personal jabs/lame insults is a fail.
Too bad, you could not handle sharing facts in an adult manner
namely because you have no factual grounds. pardon the pun.
No sense in anyone wasting their time with your mud slinging.

It is the end of the line,
Either: As they wish for a jews-Only state in a DEFINED BORDER
as agreed under Oslo accord, or a
Truly democratic Multi-national state.
Nothing less, nothing more.


Just one question,
Why would anyone want to rebuild king herods temple ? why on earth ? what for ? ?

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that's the only options?

you sound worse than you say they do.

what do you care what they rebuild?

king herods temple

greavsie1971
it's the holiest site for the jews.

One would rationally think that
Mt. Sinai where the Torah,laws and G-d 's word was revealed would
be their holiest site, not king herod's temple where all the
christian babies were killed. . . . major red flag.

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