The Next Two Years. Predictions of What might come.

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ServantOfTheLamb

Lazarus Short
reply to post by sk0rpi0n

 

Well said! I'll add that Zionist-Occupied Palestine is a hub for pornography and the human body-parts trade.

I would say everywhere on earth is a hub for pornography, please give me references guys not just speculation.

Easy: www.realjewnews.com... Just to start. Kapner is Jewish by birth, and his site is a great resource for getting away from the Zionist idol.

Ok, a bit of a fishy source IMO..but lets say they are doing that it changes nothing...Jews are men...Men sin..

You all are basically saying, "Jews traffic human organs." When you should be saying,"People traffic human organs." Would it make a difference if the article read there was about someone local to your country?

Then you would probably state the person's name rather than their ethnicity...especially if you were in America, and not a racist lol

@servantofthelamb.........''why do you enter a debate if you aren't even going to be open to new information....''

- Its not new-information for me, its a point of view. I am quite familiar with pro-Israel theology and it doesn't line up with scripture in places where it should. _________________________________________ ''America has gay prarades, and some strip clubs are basically brothels? What is your point.'' - Pointing at others 'sin' does not excuse Israel. If this Israel was foretold to return as a holy nation, it WILL be held to a higher moral standard than others. But the bible doesn't teach that Israel would return as a decadent, anti-christian nation, so any pro-Israel theology is refuted by the Bible itself.

@op, Most of the sources peddling pro-israel theology often never address the issues of Israel gay parades, prostituion and anti-christianity. When questioned about it, they either - a)special plead for Israel making excuses like ''they will repent when Jesus returns'', ''they have this special deal with God'' etc. b)Point at others sins, like you have done or ....c) Call you an anti-semite or a follower of the anti-Christ

sk0rpi0n
@op, Most of the sources peddling pro-israel theology often never address the issues of Israel gay parades, prostituion and anti-christianity. When questioned about it, they either - a)special plead for Israel making excuses like ''they will repent when Jesus returns'', ''they have this special deal with God'' etc. b)Point at others sins, like you have done or ....c) Call you an anti-semite or a follower of the anti-Christ

There is no arguing with someone who won't even take time to see if they are wrong about that. So you think if Muslims had the holy land their would be no gays? Oh, and it looks like a muslim country just held its first gay pride parade, friend you are missing a major commandment which is that we all fall short of the glory of God, even you friend.

Gay pride parade in Azerbaijani.

I can already say with 100% confidence that you are a sinner just like me, and just like homosexuals. You have a lot of spiritual pride not only for yourself, but also for Muslims. I am trying to get you to understand you cannot work your way into heaven...you have done things just as bad as what homosexuals have done.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of al

You continue to blame an entire country for the sins of a portion of the population.

reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb

There is no arguing with someone who won't even take time to see if they are wrong about that.

There is no arguing with someone who says he "loves" Jesus but is also infatuated with Israel, a state that mocks Jesus Christ on TV. You can only look for ways to make excuses for Israel.

So you think if Muslims had the holy land their would be no gays? Oh, and it looks like a muslim country just held its first gay pride parade

This isn't exactly a comparison between Muslim and Jewish states.
YOU claimed in the OP that Israel is some special "sign". So hold Israel to a higher standard... after all, according to you, they are a "sign".

So Azerbaijan held its first gay parade?
According to wiki, Azerbaijan may have a Muslim majority, but Azerbaijan also happens to be a secular state. Religion in Azerbaijan

@ OP,

Do you think these clips from Israeli TV, are also some kind of a "sign".





WARNING : EXPLICIT CONTENT!!!

Was this anti-Christian behavior prophesied by the Bible to manifest in "Israel"? Do you think God is okay with Israel doing this sort of thing?

sk0rpi0n
@ OP,

Do you think these clips from Israeli TV, are also some kind of a "sign".

WARNING : EXPLICIT CONTENT!!!

Was this anti-Christian behavior prophesied by the Bible to manifest in "Israel"? Do you think God is okay with Israel doing this sort of thing?

Read the whole bible. Israel missed their chance the kingdom of God fell to the Gentiles(anyone who is not Jewish). Part of the Tribulations purpose is the restoration of Israel.

Lets skip all this, and let me ask you two Questions Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God? Do you believe God can error?

And Once again America has anti-Christian shows that come on, however they are a bit more subtle.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


My point was not to compare, but to get you to see that sin is not just prevalent in Israel. Sin is everywhere, so get off your spiritual high horse. The Parable of the Pharisee and the Publican...you completely misinterpreted that. You quoted almost all of the passage, but you left out the first verse that tells us who the message is to. Lets look at that verse.

9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others

Friend,
This is exactly what you are doing to everyone in Israel. It is obvious that you believe you are far more righteous than other people(when the truth is we all fall short of the glory of God) this parable was intended for people who have fallen pray to spiritual pride, and friend I believe you have.

10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

Do you believe the Pharisee never lusted? Do you believe that he never slipped a lie? I would say he is just like the extortioners and adulterers, because he has sinned before. But instead of coming before God humbled the Pharisee looks at him, and instead of being honest by telling God that he is a sinner, he thanks God that he is more righteous than all of the sinners. What does the Publican do?

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner

The Publican understood that he could not possibly earn his way into heaven, why? Because he was a sinner as are we all(even the Pharisee), and only by God's mercy and grace could he ever see heaven.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

The Pharisee exalted himself over other men as if he were as perfect as God. The Publican realized his ways were wrong(that is repentance). Repentance is not an action friend, but rather is a change of heart and a change of mind(Actions will follow these). Repentance is the realization of our sin, and being saved is understanding that it is only by Gods mercy and sacrifice for us that we are able to enter the kingdom of heaven.

reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb

And Once again America has anti-Christian shows that come on, however they are a bit more subtle.

America is not exactly a good example of a religious society, besides peoples sins are not my primary focus.
This thread was supposed to be about prophecy and signs, right?

Do you believe that Jesus is going to be righteous when he comes?
But a few years from now, if a man comes claiming to be "Jesus" but turns out to be corrupt and evil, will you accept him as the real Jesus?

Similarly, according to the Bible, Israel is supposed to be restored as a Holy God fearing nation. But we see that this Israel is decadent anti-Christian. Why should you consider this as the real Biblical Israel?

reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb

Read the whole bible.Israel missed their chance the kingdom of God fell to the Gentiles(anyone who is not Jewish).

The Bible says that the Israelites are merely "tenants" and "foriegners" in the land. Their stay in the land was purely conditional as outlined in Leviticus. Their attempt to kill Jesus was the last straw, and after that they lost their privelege of staying on that land.

Jesus said this to the Pharisees,
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. - Matthew 21:43

Part of the Tribulations purpose is the restoration of Israel.

Israel is to be restored as a Holy state in submission to God. This modern Israel that is decadent and insults Jesus cannot be the restored Israel.

Lets skip all this, and let me ask you two Questions Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God? Do you believe God can error?

I believe the Bible contains the revelations of God to the Israelite prophets and those who came later, but it has also been proven to contain the writings and opinions of men, along with distortions and edits over the ages. Thinking "if its in the Bible, it must be true" is a faulty method of reading the Bible.

And no, God cannot make an error.

sk0rpi0n
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb

 

And Once again America has anti-Christian shows that come on, however they are a bit more subtle.

America is not exactly a good example of a religious society, besides peoples sins are not my primary focus.
This thread was supposed to be about prophecy and signs, right?

Do you believe that Jesus is going to be righteous when he comes?
But a few years from now, if a man comes claiming to be "Jesus" but turns out to be corrupt and evil, will you accept him as the real Jesus?

Similarly, according to the Bible, Israel is supposed to be restored as a Holy God fearing nation. But we see that this Israel is decadent anti-Christian. Why should you consider this as the real Biblical Israel?

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Do you believe that Jesus is going to be righteous when he comes?
But a few years from now, if a man comes claiming to be "Jesus" but turns out to be corrupt and evil, will you accept him as the real Jesus?

I believe Jesus was and always has been righteous. I believe Jesus is God. Unfortunately, you and I do not believe in the same Jesus. Jesus was righteous during his first time on Earth. Israel will be restored as a Holy nation, but this occurs during the 70th week of Daniel. Also, I believe in the rapture, so I will never see the Abomination of Desolation. Jesus will catch the Church up into the clouds with Him. 70th week of Daniel will occur, and at then end Jesus will return to set up his reign on Earth.

@Servantofthelamb...

Israel will be restored as a Holy nation,

The problem is that 'Israel' has already been restored, not as a holy nation, but as a nation that opposes Jesus. Nowhere in the bible does it say that Israel would return as a decadent state. hence the logical conclusion is that the current Israel is an imposter, that has been mistaken for the Biblical Israel.

sk0rpi0n
@Servantofthelamb...

Israel will be restored as a Holy nation,

The problem is that 'Israel' has already been restored, not as a holy nation, but as a nation that opposes Jesus. Nowhere in the bible does it say that Israel would return as a decadent state. hence the logical conclusion is that the current Israel is an imposter, that has been mistaken for the Biblical Israel.

The rebirth of Israel is described in Ezekiel 37 in the vision of the valley of dry bones.

So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound, and the bones came together, bone to bone. I looked, and tendons and flesh appeared on them and skin covered them, but there was no breath in them. (Ezekiel 37:7-8)

Notice, how the description implies a slow process. Bones connect to bones then tendons and muscles appear followed by skin.

Then he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe into these slain, that they may live.’ ” So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet—a vast army. (Ezekiel 37:9-10)


(BTW if you would have read my link earlier, I wouldn't have to explain this, but to save you time I'll quote the important parts, because he is a much better teacher than I.)

The breath that gives them life comes from the four winds, used symbolically to represent a sovereign act of God. This tells us that though they are now living beings, they are not yet possessed of the Spirit of God. That will come later, as we’ll see. The people would first be gathered together in unbelief, a secular nation. This is seen in their status today, brought back after a 2000 year absence by a sovereign act of God, but not yet a covenant people again. This is what God meant when He said it wouldn’t be because they deserved it, but because He promised it.

Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’ Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.’ “ (Ezekiel 37:11-14)

Notice the Lord has Ezekiel speaking to the whole house of Israel. There are no lost tribes. The complete fulfillment of the Dry Bones prophecy requires two more things only God can do. He must put His Spirit in them and He must bring the faithful of their past out of the grave to join them. His Spirit will come when they’re ready to recognize Him as the Messiah they put to death so long ago. Zechariah said this would happen during their final time of trial at the end of the age.

“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. (Zechariah 12:10)

(In the Hebrew language, this verse reveals an astonishing secret. After the phrase They will look on me … it contains two untranslated letters, an aleph and a tau. They are the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. So the verse literally reads, “They will look on me, the Aleph and the Tau …” In Genesis 1:1 the same two Hebrew letters show up after the phrase In the beginning, God … So it reads In the beginning God, the Aleph and the Tau … In Genesis 1 the Father is in view, but in Zechariah 12 it’s the Son. Was God planting little clues that He and the Messiah are one? Well, look at Revelation 1:8; “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” The original language of the Revelation is Greek where the first and last letters of the alphabet are Alpha and Omega. Now let’s read the words of Jesus in Revelation 22:13; I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Aleph and Tau, first and last in Hebrew. Alpha and Omega, first and last in Greek. Both languages referring to both the Father and the Son. Someone’s trying to tell us something.)

I don't really care to argue about the state of Israel anymore. You do not have to agree with something I call predictions. However, I am sure you will see the Rapture. Hopefully, you will find enough of the Truth to be caught up with the rest of us. Good luck friend.

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No we may not know the exact day and time of the Rapture, however Jesus does tell us when it will occur if we read to make ourselves approved. Read in Matthew 24:29-31 He tells that he will return after those days of tribulation, so He does give us a general idea of the things which will direct precede His return.