Israelis strike shipment of Russian missiles at Syrian port

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


And Syria, who has grounded half their air force, to keep what they have flying (which is still in bad shape), is going to somehow be able to pull of an attack, and hit Israel hard?

Im smelling a rat here. Yesterday it was only Israelly sites that were bringing up the attacks. No news out of Syria, or even Press news. Then today its on msm, it even made headlines here in nz. Still no news in the country they bombed. hmmmm

Zaphod58
reply to post by deadcalm

 

A number of sources have reported that Syrian and Iranian missiles have been transferred to Hezbollah through Syria.

So what? Syria and Hezbollah are allies. If Syria wants to give Hezbollah weapons they have that right.

reply to post by buster2010


I never said anything either way about it. I simply answered the question as to what Israel saw itself as defending against.

reply to post by Zaphod58

so why would Russia risk losing all that money and send them, when they're useless in a civil war, and there is no longer any sign of the West trying to impose a no fly zone, or take any other action. There's no reason for them to risk that kind of money.

Yes there is. The Israeli airstrikes on their country, for one. That these were becoming operational would mean they were an imminent threat to any further Israeli enforcement of their "only we fly zone" over the entire region.

Their OPs are kind of a circumvention to the UN votes against no fly zones over Syria. Somebody forgot to tell them that is illegal.

reply to post by intrptr


Except that if they DO ship them in, they lose hundreds of millions of dollars that they really could use right now. And they're going to be useless for awhile, because Syrian crews have to set them up, learn the best ways to use them, etc. All that takes time, even if they train in Russia on them, they're going to have to do some training in Syria on them still.

reply to post by Zaphod58

Not anymore, apparently.

reply to post by intrptr


Except, again, all the sources say these are SA-3s that were hit, NOT S-300s. So unless you have a much better source than the Russians, or the other sources I've found, and can prove these are S-300s, you're speculating about it.

It has now been confirmed that this was done in coordination with Turkey. I feel Turkey is helping for a number of reasons. Obviously one is because they do not want a neighboring country completely controlled by terrorist entities. It would only be a matter of time before it washed over their boarders. Another reason being that the uptick in strikes by Israel is meant to take out as many missile stashes and striking facilities as possible before they take on Iran. They know that repercussions will come from many fronts, and though they may not mind a weakened Israel, they definitely want Israel to succeed. Turkey sees itself as the rightful heir for the home of the caliphate which will rule the world, and having Iran beAten to a pulp bodes well for them. If Iran can not supply and protect the many factions found in the region these factions will have to find new lords. Turkey estimates that they will be chosen and they will immediately go after Saudi Arabia. If they take them out, Turkey rules the world.

reply to post by goou111


Yeah right! They are trying to keep weapons from going to Lebanon? I doubt Syria would hand over their air defence systems and Russian rockets to Lebanon. More likely Israel is about to hit Iran and they are clearing out any systems that might hit them when they are in the air bombing Iran. Clearing the air space so they can safely retreat and so they have another possibly route to enter.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Was this even an Air strike to begin with or just more war ranting to drive off the NSA allegations?

reply to post by Zaphod58

And the Soviets supplied Egypt and Syria aid during the war as well. Why leave that out?

Maybe because we were talking about Israel.

Everyone has their hand in the cookie jar over there, and as the US found out the hard way, blowback is frickin horrible. It's too bad we let them win though. Losing all our freedom because of an attack sure was a win for them.

buster2010

Zaphod58
reply to post by deadcalm

 

A number of sources have reported that Syrian and Iranian missiles have been transferred to Hezbollah through Syria.

So what? Syria and Hezbollah are allies. If Syria wants to give Hezbollah weapons they have that right.

The same right as much as Saudi Arabia giving the " Moderate rebels" arms to Right?

Zaphod58
reply to post by intrptr

 

Except Russia has said they weren't going to send any S-300s until at least next year, due to lack of payment, and because of fears of further destabilizing the region.

Thats the propaganda talk on the MSM i highly suspect that the S-300s are already in Syria. Still doubting this air strike.

reply to post by superman2012


And we were also talking about the Yom Kippur war, in which Egypt and Syria played a large role supported by Russia. I didn't realize you could talk about a war and only talk about one side.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


This has to be the most obvious explanation. An airstrike on Iran launched from Israel would require a safe air corridor, possible refuelling over Syrian / Lebanese airspace. An established air defence in Syria / Lebanon would eliminate that possibility. Those tankers would make easy targets.



As for the Russians, as long as they have control the missile defence systems, they maintain their influence over both Iran and Israel.

To be clear, there is no serious possibility of an air attack against Syria itself so given their current problems, why would they want to spend their money on Russian air defence missiles?

Israel don't actually have to attack Iran as long as the capability for an airstrike against Iran to be launched from Israel exists. Its a chess move.

reply to post by Zaphod58


No you definitely can, just don't mention one side and expect no one to comment on it.

reply to post by MysterX


Dont you know they are God's chosen People, they can do what they want..........-_-(insert sarcasm).

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


Don't think of them as Syrian missiles. They are provided by Russia, and maintained and paid for by Iran. If Tehran wants the Hezzies to have a couple for safe keeping, they will get them. But again, even the possibility that Hezbollah would have the ability to target Israel jets or tankers is enough to prevent an airstrike. They don't actually have to have the weapons, they just need create the possibility that they do.

reply to post by superman2012


Never said I did. And fully expected all sides to be brought up, including the Russians and their assistance.