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They've used versions of this plan to get us into pretty much every war we have ever been involved in.
Wrabbit2000
The war and military planning of the Kennedy Administration is very interesting to read about and some of the attitudes have carried on. Some got stomped by Pike and Church in the 70's ..but some have endured. Unfortunately, in some cases too.
Are we comparing the personalities and policies of John F. Kennedy's administration with the men serving under Barack Obama though? I have an exceptionally hard time seeing the relation between times then and now. Even the backbone of the military leaders is completely different. They had one of iron back then. They don't have much of one at all, today.
Northwoods would have taken very strong men to see through...and I'd call it evil. Strength would have absolutely been needed though.
Strength they just don't have in them today, IMO. They would more likely piss off other nations to the point of attacking us, then insure we were weak enough to be hurt badly.
Wrabbit2000
Northwoods would have taken very strong men to see through...and I'd call it evil. Strength would have absolutely been needed though.
Strength they just don't have in them today, IMO. They would more likely piss off other nations to the point of attacking us, then insure we were weak enough to be hurt badly.
smurfy
reply to post by SadistNocturne
Just a reminder about Northwoods, by James Bamford;
"Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war."
Within and without the military, the dirt will never stop. So often they spit on 'democracy' Just because Northwoods was stopped and Lemnitzer got the boot, the militarists didn't stop.
This was further ahem, contingency planning,
'Included in the nations the Joint Chiefs suggested as targets for covert attacks were Jamaica and Trinidad-Tobago. Since both were members of the British Commonwealth, the Joint Chiefs hoped that by secretly attacking them and then falsely blaming Cuba, the United States could incite the people of the United Kingdom into supporting a war against Castro. As the U.S. Department of Defense report noted:
Any of the contrived situations described above are inherently, extremely risky in our democratic system in which security can be maintained, after the fact, with very great difficulty. If the decision should be made to set up a contrived situation it should be one in which participation by U.S. personnel is limited only to the most highly trusted covert personnel. This suggests the infeasibility of the use of military units for any aspect of the contrived situation.
The U.S. Department of Defense report even suggested covertly paying a person in the Castro government to attack the United States: "The only area remaining for consideration then would be to bribe one of Castro's subordinate commanders to initiate an attack on [the U.S. Navy base at] Guantanamo." '
Source Wiki, (you can call it up under Operation Northwoods)
But you can even see in the above the indelicacy of an attack on Jamaica and Trinidad, no qualification, just a murderous attack on people they didn't give a fig about, by CIA paramilitaries.
At least with Northwoods, there was some Hemming and hawing as to real or simulated, but with the emphasis on real.
It's no wonder that President Kennedy did not survive against the bad men with the pips, the department of dense..sorry defense and the CIA, and their corporate masters.
Had ordinary people known that at the time, the American military would have been pulled down big time, the intelligence propagated 'cold war' would have ended. It didn't happen that way, and the man that came after Kennedy made sure of that.
nimbinned
The next false flag is likely to be so huge that it will literally rip people's minds to shreds. It will be the last gasp effort by the controllers to maintain the status quo, although they already know that their game is finally up. Love will prevail and light will shine from every human heart.
Blessings *
seandean
What if the threat were Fukushima? The earthquake obviously happened and the tsunami, but what if the plant was already offline? It's odd that the fuel rod removal (possible end of world) date perfectly coincides with the FEMA readiness timeline, National Guard martial-law training deadline and numerous other mid-Nov 2013 events.
Just a thought.
zatara
reply to post by SadistNocturne
Man..., seriously..the US is doomed. The PTB apply the same formula as they use with the banks when it comes to skimming the top...the middle....... and the bottom.
They think..To Big To Fail...we can use and abuse that institution to our satisfaction. And there they go wrong and steer the US and all of its citizens down the drain.
And nobody has the authority, or has been given the authority to stop that skimming train...
And to be honest, from where I am sitting it looks as if the US citizen doesn't give a s#!t and isn't aware until ......But unfortunately then it is too late for reversal...for the rescue.
And the funny thing is that the persons who did the robbing and looting have created laws which will protect them in case trouble will come their way.Isn't it a wonderful world and life if you belong to the absolute top?
Wrabbit2000
The war and military planning of the Kennedy Administration is very interesting to read about and some of the attitudes have carried on. Some got stomped by Pike and Church in the 70's ..but some have endured. Unfortunately, in some cases too.
Are we comparing the personalities and policies of John F. Kennedy's administration with the men serving under Barack Obama though? I have an exceptionally hard time seeing the relation between times then and now. Even the backbone of the military leaders is completely different. They had one of iron back then. They don't have much of one at all, today.
Northwoods would have taken very strong men to see through...and I'd call it evil. Strength would have absolutely been needed though.
Strength they just don't have in them today, IMO. They would more likely piss off other nations to the point of attacking us, then insure we were weak enough to be hurt badly.