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MichaelPMaccabee
SadistNocturne
MichaelPMaccabee
The graph is worthless without the information used to create the graph. I could simply say that my independent research concludes that the US only spent about $3.50 on Welfare in the last 5 years.
Doesn't make it true, and I'm not saying that this isn't true, but where can I read the report and decide for myself whether the merit of this graph is worth bothering to talk about?
Did you follow the link I provided ?
Had you done that, you'd have found supporting information for the graph. I merely posted it here as I thought it was an interesting visual aid for the class.
You linked a news story, I'm not looking for information filtered through a news source, but rather the actual report. This news agency seems to have had access to the Congressional report, and I think it's pretty telling that the news agency has decided against providing a link to the report themselves.
MichaelPMaccabee
reply to post by catfishjoe
It is your job to report fraud, if you care about your tax money. You still can report the fraud, though I doubt you will. Here is the information to get you started.
www.dol.gov...
crawley
How much was spent abroad in a failed war?
OccamsRazor04
crawley
How much was spent abroad in a failed war?
The total cost of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, including all postwar benefits and medical expenses is between $4 and $6 trillion. In the same timeframe we will spend $7.5 trillion on welfare.
MichaelPMaccabee
SadistNocturne
MichaelPMaccabee
The graph is worthless without the information used to create the graph. I could simply say that my independent research concludes that the US only spent about $3.50 on Welfare in the last 5 years.
Doesn't make it true, and I'm not saying that this isn't true, but where can I read the report and decide for myself whether the merit of this graph is worth bothering to talk about?
Did you follow the link I provided ?
Had you done that, you'd have found supporting information for the graph. I merely posted it here as I thought it was an interesting visual aid for the class.
You linked a news story, I'm not looking for information filtered through a news source, but rather the actual report. This news agency seems to have had access to the Congressional report, and I think it's pretty telling that the news agency has decided against providing a link to the report themselves.
MrSpad
MichaelPMaccabee
SadistNocturne
MichaelPMaccabee
The graph is worthless without the information used to create the graph. I could simply say that my independent research concludes that the US only spent about $3.50 on Welfare in the last 5 years.
Doesn't make it true, and I'm not saying that this isn't true, but where can I read the report and decide for myself whether the merit of this graph is worth bothering to talk about?
Did you follow the link I provided ?
Had you done that, you'd have found supporting information for the graph. I merely posted it here as I thought it was an interesting visual aid for the class.
You linked a news story, I'm not looking for information filtered through a news source, but rather the actual report. This news agency seems to have had access to the Congressional report, and I think it's pretty telling that the news agency has decided against providing a link to the report themselves.
You can look at the offical numbers here Budget but, they come out at about 2 trillion for those 5 years. The article adds in almost 2 trillion more from somewhere. I think they are playing with the numbers a bit and for Welfare adding in Federal, State and Local that would get them to the 3.7 Trillion number I think but, if they did that with Education that number alone is higher than Welfare spending. Perhaps they are using the combined federal/state/local numbers for Welfare to inflate it and using only federal spending on the others to deflate those numbers. Whatever they are doing it is not kosher.edit on 24-10-2013 by MrSpad because: (no reason given)
catfishjoe
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
Thanks for the info. Youre right, I won't read it. Its the thought that counts right? Our country needs more moral citizens such as yourself. I'm sure our once great country wouldn't be in the #ter if we had more people like you reporting fraud. You, good sir, are a true american!!!!! No sarcasm. I'm dead serious. Thank you good sir.
reeferman
reply to post by SadistNocturne
a society dependent on government to exist..
what did you expect to see happen when NAFTA GAT & all the other trade agreements took
away manufacturing jobs from US shores...
Detroit used to be the Motor Capital of the world..
now look at it..
What chance does America have when big business is in bed with big government squashing the average Americans ability to create & innovate?
Americans have been shifted from producers to service class debt based money slaves..
SadistNocturne
New research from the Republicans on the Senate Budget Committee shows that over the last 5 years, the U.S. has spent about $3.7 trillion on welfare. Here's a chart, showing that spending versus transportation, education, and NASA spending:
www.weeklystandard.com...
Maybe, we need to re-evaluate? Maybe, we need to look at putting some of our welfare recipients into some sort of work situation for welfare. Perhaps a minimum of part time? That way they could repay society, AND look for gainful employment?
Think of it...caregivers...laborers...cooks....guards....just about *anything* society needs. Why should you just be PAID to not work ? I certainly don't get paid to NOT work....
doobydoll
SadistNocturne
New research from the Republicans on the Senate Budget Committee shows that over the last 5 years, the U.S. has spent about $3.7 trillion on welfare. Here's a chart, showing that spending versus transportation, education, and NASA spending:
www.weeklystandard.com...
Maybe, we need to re-evaluate? Maybe, we need to look at putting some of our welfare recipients into some sort of work situation for welfare. Perhaps a minimum of part time? That way they could repay society, AND look for gainful employment?
Think of it...caregivers...laborers...cooks....guards....just about *anything* society needs. Why should you just be PAID to not work ? I certainly don't get paid to NOT work....
That's right, you get paid to work, so why do you want others to be forced to work for benefits instead of wages?
If there's any forcing to be done, why not force the companies who are using these 'free workers' to pay them a wage instead? If they want any work doing they should pay for it, shouldn't they? Isn't this how it's supposed to be? This way the workers will be able to get off benefits, and they'll be supporting themselves and PAYING taxes instead of claiming.
You do know that the majority of people claiming ARE working, don't you? They have to claim because they aren't paid enough. So, why not force employers to pay a living wage? Then the majority would be off benefits and the spending on welfare assistance would be drastically reduced.
Everyone will be happy. Well, everyone except the tight-arsed companies who think it's acceptable for people to do the work they need doing, and not pay them for it.
SadistNocturne
catfishjoe
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
Thanks for the info. Youre right, I won't 0read it. Its the thought that counts right? Our country needs more moral citizens such as yourself. I'm sure our once great country wouldn't be in the #ter if we had more people like you reporting fraud. You, good sir, are a true american!!!!! No sarcasm. I'm dead serious. Thank you good sir.
Oh, wow. Just plain Wow.
Really?
Wow, just plain Wow.
catfishjoe
SadistNocturne
catfishjoe
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
Thanks for the info. Youre right, I won't 0read it. Its the thought that counts right? Our country needs more moral citizens such as yourself. I'm sure our once great country wouldn't be in the #ter if we had more people like you reporting fraud. You, good sir, are a true american!!!!! No sarcasm. I'm dead serious. Thank you good sir.
Oh, wow. Just plain Wow.
Really?
Wow, just plain Wow.
Its cool bro. Be happy. Dont waste no sweat for me. I love you no matter what you think of me. I'm happy no matter what. You should be as well. Don't hate. That's negative energy. Turn that frown upside down!!!
SadistNocturne
catfishjoe
SadistNocturne
catfishjoe
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
Thanks for the info. Youre right, I won't 0read it. Its the thought that counts right? Our country needs more moral citizens such as yourself. I'm sure our once great country wouldn't be in the #ter if we had more people like you reporting fraud. You, good sir, are a true american!!!!! No sarcasm. I'm dead serious. Thank you good sir.
Oh, wow. Just plain Wow.
Really?
Wow, just plain Wow.
Its cool bro. Be happy. Dont waste no sweat for me. I love you no matter what you think of me. I'm happy no matter what. You should be as well. Don't hate. That's negative energy. Turn that frown upside down!!!
Put down the PHISH branded MP3 player, stop hitting the pipe, and come back to reality, "bro". It's cool here too.