Obama: "The World Is More Stable Now than Five Years Ago"

More Stable. But it depends who's side you're on !

yes - the Marxist/Progressive worldwide central bank system
[ only for the super muney munger administrators ]

yes - jobs
[ chicken feed part time and low wages ]
[ increase in government jobs to solidify the "industrial armies" ]
[ Equal liability of all to labor ]
[ equalizing by job exporting - to foreign nations (Plank #7 - Manifest der Kommunistischen Partei) ]

yes - Furthering the Cloward-Piven plan
[ massive unprecedented increases in 'assistance' programs ]

yes - Student loan meltdown.

yes - Fukushima radiation

+Hundreds more.....

Well this is a big duh. 5 years ago we had things like the civil wars in Chad, Sri Lanka, full scale civil wars Sudan and Somalia, the second Chechen conflict with the Russians, the invasion of Georgia, full scale fighting in Iraq and Afganistan, Fatah and Hamas fighting in Palestine, heavy internal fighting in Pakistan, the Israelis attack into Gaza, conflcit in Niger, Turkey invading Northern Iraq, Thialand in a state of emergency, Coup in Gueina, the Tureg rebellion in Mali (now done thanks to France), Thi-Cambodian border clashes, internal fighting in Ethiopia, the Christmas massacres in the Congo, Djibouti vs Eritrea border conflict, the Maoist insurgency in Nepal etc. Those are all either over or much calmer than they were then. Egypy was already starting its uprising 8 years ago. Several other places like Lebanon, the Phillipines and Mexico had internal figthing then and now so nothing has changed in those places. The Syrian civll war would be the only new real source of instabliity but, even 5 years ago the US was conducting raids into Syria and Israel was hitting them with an air strike.

So to some up. 8 years ago not only was the world less stable but, we had the West and Russia in a chance for a real conflict over Georgia. So yes the world is much more stable now then it was 8 years ago. That is a fact. However, outside of leaving Iraq and Afganistan the US can not really claim to have done much to improve it.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Are you still trying to push that "we were almost in WWIII" line?

LOL.

Dramatics and doom porn are on the menu today I see.


And yes, the world is more stable...most notably...financially it is way more stable than 5 years ago. If you deny that, you are just denying reality.

Also, we are no longer in a war in Iraq and we are getting out of Afganistan. We are at our lowest point in war than we have been in a long time.

It just burns your butt so much that the World has stabilized while Obama has been in office that you are going to actively deny facts and reality in order to continue your hate of Obama.

That's fine, but don't get mad when people look at you as uninformed.

reply to post by MrSpad


And that is only talking about wars and military conflicts.

The world economy is by far more stable right now then it was 5 years ago.

Some people will never admit it though. As long as Obama is President, the world will be ending to them.

Maybe the world outside of the United States have gotten better but not here.

Presidents have no power, they never did. They're just an illusion. Everyone should know this by now. It's all a masquerade.

The elite would never hand that kind of power over to a civilian let alone a person picked by the sheep. It doesn't matter who you have sitting in the White House, it's just an illusion. A very elaborately orchestrated one.

AlienScience
Are you still trying to push that "we were almost in WWIII" line?

It's a fact. Open your eyes. The players involved in Syria - Russia, China, USA, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, France, Turkey, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood ... If that isn't the foundation for a World War ... nothing is.

Syrian gov't vs the Jihadi's.
Syrian gov't vs the Syrian Liberated Army.
Jihadi's vs Syiran Gov't
Jihadi's vs Syrian Liberated Army (because they are secular).
Syrian Liberated Army vs Syrian Gov't.
Syrian Liberated Army vs Jihadis (because they are whackadoo Sharia extremists)
Saudi Arabia vs Syrian gov't. (covert)
Saudi Arabia vs. Jihadis (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Syrian Gov't vs Saudi Arabia. (covert)
Qatar vs Syrian Gov't. (covert)
Syrian Gov't vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Jihadis (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Egypt vs Syrian Gov't. (semi covert)
Egypt vs Syrian Liberated Army (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Iran vs Syrian Liberated Army
Syrian Liberated Army vs Iran
Iran vs Egypt (covert in Syria because Iran supports Syrian Govt)
Egypt vs Iran (covert in Syria because Iran supports Syrian Govt)
Iran vs Saudi Arabia (covert)
Saudi Arabia vs Iran (covert)
Iran vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Iran (covert)
Russia vs Jihadis
Jihadis vs Russia
Russia vs Syrian Liberated Army
Syrian Liberated Army vs Russia
Russia vs Saudi Arabia (covert)
Saud Arabia vs Russia (covert)
Russia vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Russia (covert)
Russia vs Egypt (covert)
Egypt vs Russia (covert)
USA vs Russia
USA vs Iran
USA vs Syria Gov't
Russia vs USA
Iran vs USA
Syria Gov't vs USA
France vs Russia
France vs Iran.
France vs Syria Gov't
Russia vs France
Iran vs France
Syria Gov't vs France

The players are major. Others would instantly be sucked in.
This absolutely could have easily been the outbreak of WWIII

don't get mad when people look at you as uninformed.

Right back atchya.

AlienScience
It just burns your butt so much that the World has stabilized while Obama has been in office that you are going to actively deny facts and reality in order to continue your hate of Obama.

You are deluded. Stop smoking hope-ium.

reply to post by FlyersFan


It's not a fact, it is a fantastical hypothetical.

You do know the difference between fact and hypothetical, right?

No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it fact.

We were as close to WWIII as we were when we invaded Iraq. It didn't happen that time, most likely wouldn't happen this time.

Except in the minds of conspiracy theorists, where almost anything is worthy of doom porn and saying it is "fact" that a crazy hypothetical theory will happen.

FlyersFan

AlienScience
Are you still trying to push that "we were almost in WWIII" line?

It's a fact. Open your eyes. The players involved in Syria - Russia, China, USA, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, France, Turkey, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood ... If that isn't the foundation for a World War ... nothing is.

Syrian gov't vs the Jihadi's.
Syrian gov't vs the Syrian Liberated Army.
Jihadi's vs Syiran Gov't
Jihadi's vs Syrian Liberated Army (because they are secular).
Syrian Liberated Army vs Syrian Gov't.
Syrian Liberated Army vs Jihadis (because they are whackadoo Sharia extremists)
Saudi Arabia vs Syrian gov't. (covert)
Saudi Arabia vs. Jihadis (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Syrian Gov't vs Saudi Arabia. (covert)
Qatar vs Syrian Gov't. (covert)
Syrian Gov't vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Jihadis (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Egypt vs Syrian Gov't. (semi covert)
Egypt vs Syrian Liberated Army (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Iran vs Syrian Liberated Army
Syrian Liberated Army vs Iran
Iran vs Egypt (covert in Syria because Iran supports Syrian Govt)
Egypt vs Iran (covert in Syria because Iran supports Syrian Govt)
Iran vs Saudi Arabia (covert)
Saudi Arabia vs Iran (covert)
Iran vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Iran (covert)
Russia vs Jihadis
Jihadis vs Russia
Russia vs Syrian Liberated Army
Syrian Liberated Army vs Russia
Russia vs Saudi Arabia (covert)
Saud Arabia vs Russia (covert)
Russia vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Russia (covert)
Russia vs Egypt (covert)
Egypt vs Russia (covert)
USA vs Russia
USA vs Iran
USA vs Syria Gov't
Russia vs USA
Iran vs USA
Syria Gov't vs USA
France vs Russia
France vs Iran.
France vs Syria Gov't
Russia vs France
Iran vs France
Syria Gov't vs France

The players are major. Others would instantly be sucked in.
This absolutely could have easily been the outbreak of WWIII

don't get mad when people look at you as uninformed.

Right back atchya.

AlienScience
It just burns your butt so much that the World has stabilized while Obama has been in office that you are going to actively deny facts and reality in order to continue your hate of Obama.

You are deluded. Stop smoking hope-ium.

edit on 9/25/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)

Then nothing is. When is the last time we had a conflict did not have all those plus some with interests. Having interests in a conflict is a far cry from going to war over it. Lets just put the WW3 fantasy away it has zero basis in reality.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Obama is living in a dream world and this statement is proof of it.

FlyersFan

AlienScience
Are you still trying to push that "we were almost in WWIII" line?

It's a fact. Open your eyes. The players involved in Syria - Russia, China, USA, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, France, Turkey, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood ... If that isn't the foundation for a World War ... nothing is.

Syrian gov't vs the Jihadi's.
Syrian gov't vs the Syrian Liberated Army.
Jihadi's vs Syiran Gov't
Jihadi's vs Syrian Liberated Army (because they are secular).
Syrian Liberated Army vs Syrian Gov't.
Syrian Liberated Army vs Jihadis (because they are whackadoo Sharia extremists)
Saudi Arabia vs Syrian gov't. (covert)
Saudi Arabia vs. Jihadis (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Syrian Gov't vs Saudi Arabia. (covert)
Qatar vs Syrian Gov't. (covert)
Syrian Gov't vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Jihadis (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Egypt vs Syrian Gov't. (semi covert)
Egypt vs Syrian Liberated Army (but not until the Syrian Gov't is overthrown).
Iran vs Syrian Liberated Army
Syrian Liberated Army vs Iran
Iran vs Egypt (covert in Syria because Iran supports Syrian Govt)
Egypt vs Iran (covert in Syria because Iran supports Syrian Govt)
Iran vs Saudi Arabia (covert)
Saudi Arabia vs Iran (covert)
Iran vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Iran (covert)
Russia vs Jihadis
Jihadis vs Russia
Russia vs Syrian Liberated Army
Syrian Liberated Army vs Russia
Russia vs Saudi Arabia (covert)
Saud Arabia vs Russia (covert)
Russia vs Qatar (covert)
Qatar vs Russia (covert)
Russia vs Egypt (covert)
Egypt vs Russia (covert)
USA vs Russia
USA vs Iran
USA vs Syria Gov't
Russia vs USA
Iran vs USA
Syria Gov't vs USA
France vs Russia
France vs Iran.
France vs Syria Gov't
Russia vs France
Iran vs France
Syria Gov't vs France

The players are major. Others would instantly be sucked in.
This absolutely could have easily been the outbreak of WWIII

don't get mad when people look at you as uninformed.

Right back atchya.

AlienScience
It just burns your butt so much that the World has stabilized while Obama has been in office that you are going to actively deny facts and reality in order to continue your hate of Obama.

You are deluded. Stop smoking hope-ium.

edit on 9/25/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)

That had to just be the most redundant post i've ever seen.

Usa vs iran
usa vs Russia

Then

Russia vs usa
Iran vs usa

Could have been alot shorter post to read.

In global terms he is saying things are stable in the suppression of rights to create a more docile population. More rules to scare the public into submission.

But very soon that stability is about to change as desperation of the world will create the change we need.

AlienScience
It's not a fact, it is a fantastical hypothetical.
You do know the difference between fact and hypothetical, right?

I do. Apparently you don't.
No matter how many times you claim Obama is Mr. Peace Maker, it just isn't true.
You are ignoring the facts of which players are involved in Syria.
And no ... we were MUCH closer to WWIII last month then when we were in Iraq.
To suggest otherwise is darkly comical.

TheLotLizard
That had to just be the most redundant post i've ever seen.

Your response is weak. Open your eyes. The players involved in Syria - Russia, China, USA, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, France, Turkey, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood ... all at odds with each other in a major way and all dragging others in.

Mr. Nobel Peace Prize stepped in doo-doo of his own making last month.
When he didn't get his way and he couldn't bomb Syria, he immediately
threatened Iran with bombing.

If the world survives Obama it'll be a miracle.
He is self messianic and deluded.

reply to post by TheLotLizard

That had to just be the most redundant post i've ever seen.

Usa vs iran
usa vs Russia

Then

Russia vs usa
Iran vs usa

Could have been alot shorter post to read.

But then it wouldn't have been a ridiculously long list that someone can act dramatic over.

Because everyone knows, the longer the list, the more factual it is /sarcasm.

This is simply a tactic used by someone who doesn't have facts to back up their opinions...they use dramatics in place of facts.

AlienScience
This is simply a tactic used by someone who doesn't have facts to back up their opinions...they use dramatics in place of facts.

WEAK. I posted facts. Your response is a total lack of facts. Address the issues.
The world isn't a safer place now then 5 years ago.
Mr. Messiah thinks he has saved the world. And his loyal minions buy it ....
Freak'n sad.

FlyersFan

TheLotLizard
That had to just be the most redundant post i've ever seen.

Your response is weak. Open your eyes. The players involved in Syria - Russia, China, USA, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, France, Turkey, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood ... all at odds with each other in a major way and all dragging others in.

Mr. Nobel Peace Prize stepped in doo-doo of his own making last month.
When he didn't get his way and he couldn't bomb Syria, he immediately
threatened Iran with bombing.

If the world survives Obama it'll be a miracle.
He is self messianic and deluded.

You forgot:

Cats vs Dogs
Aliens vs Robots
Pikachu vs Meowth
Empire vs Rebels
The Borg vs Humanity
Male vs Female
Fantasy vs Reality
and of course
Drama vs Facts


I'll wager just about anything that the world will "survive" Obama.

I'm sorry, but you aren't going to get your WWIII...no matter how much you wish for it.

AlienScience
I'm sorry, but you aren't going to get your WWIII...no matter how much you wish for it.

Straw man absurdium. Grow up.

The fact is that Obama dragged the world perilously close to a conflagration involving the major powers of the world at odds with each other. The fact is that Bush43 did not (no matter how much the O-bots want to say otherwise). The fact is that PUTIN saved the world from being dragged into another useless war.

Obama isn't Mr. Peacemaker. The world is not 'more safe' with him in the White House.
That's something the entire planet ... minus the O-bots ... see clearly.

FlyersFan

AlienScience
This is simply a tactic used by someone who doesn't have facts to back up their opinions...they use dramatics in place of facts.

WEAK. I posted facts. Your response is a total lack of facts. Address the issues.
The world isn't a safer place now then 5 years ago.
Mr. Messiah thinks he has saved the world. And his loyal minions buy it ....
Freak'n sad.

No you misunderstood my intent. You didn't read did you.

Posting statements repeatedly in different orders does not make a brand new one.

Saying the us is against iran, then saying iran is against usa. If that is not redundancy then I guess I evolved from a crawdad. Not meant to walk this land.

I never said I disagree with you, I said you don't need to make an unreasonably long post with the same information to make it seem more worthy.

A post in a forum is not a bottle of wine.

FlyersFan

AlienScience
This is simply a tactic used by someone who doesn't have facts to back up their opinions...they use dramatics in place of facts.

WEAK. I posted facts. Your response is a total lack of facts. Address the issues.
The world isn't a safer place now then 5 years ago.
Mr. Messiah thinks he has saved the world. And his loyal minions buy it ....
Freak'n sad.

What facts?

We aren't in WWIII...that is a fact.

Even if we did attack Syria, it didn't automatically mean WWIII. Russia even said they wouldn't intervene militarily, only offer aid to Syria. That kind of shoots your doom porn theory right out of the water.

Your fantasy about WWIII is not facts...please learn what a fact is.

The fact is that the world is in less wars right now then it was 5 years ago, Mr. Spad laid that out pretty clearly. And the world economy along with the American economy is MUCH more stable than it was 5 years ago. No one is saying things are perfect...but they are better, no matter how much you deny it.

AlienScience

FlyersFan

TheLotLizard
That had to just be the most redundant post i've ever seen.

Your response is weak. Open your eyes. The players involved in Syria - Russia, China, USA, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, France, Turkey, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood ... all at odds with each other in a major way and all dragging others in.

Mr. Nobel Peace Prize stepped in doo-doo of his own making last month.
When he didn't get his way and he couldn't bomb Syria, he immediately
threatened Iran with bombing.

If the world survives Obama it'll be a miracle.
He is self messianic and deluded.

You forgot:

Cats vs Dogs
Aliens vs Robots
Pikachu vs Meowth
Empire vs Rebels
The Borg vs Humanity
Male vs Female
Fantasy vs Reality
and of course
Drama vs Facts


I'll wager just about anything that the world will "survive" Obama.

I'm sorry, but you aren't going to get your WWIII...no matter how much you wish for it.

You forgot Dogs vs. Cats
And Meowth Vs. Pikachu.

As they are in reality two totally different factions.