Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake - PART 2

a reply to: RickinVa

they have been since the beginning

a reply to: Silverlok

...dumping into the ocean I mean ( obviously for the knowledgeable)

let's face it this disaster ( which was totally preventable ) was instigated by the 'government' ( what a joke: if people governed this NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED, because we would NEVER have allowed this level of incompetence to be married to such a level of indifference to the environment, it's balance...society; how we have shaped it and; TO THE AVERAGE MAN >TO WHOM THE RICH DEPEND ON for EVERYTHING...EVERYTHING) incompetence , or even worse indifference to the consequences.

The experts whom told us everything is and was safe SOMEHOW failed to account for the surface boiling problem . The industry ( Run by the military industrial complex) said ...repeatedly...nothing is that bad ...situation normal ...

so now that enough time has passed ...in their estimation...multiple meltdowns are 'normal', and lying about it at the government and industrial ( collusion between the two as being seen as separate?) level is...normal

the surface boiling melt mass problem , missed somehow for decades by every "expert" EVER is not something discussed , even though it is causing massive and UNSOLVABLE problems in waste coolant disposal that is exponantially out of control

leading to illegal dumping

wow

go tepco

and the nuker industry

thank you for showing us what dinosaurs actually look like

originally posted by: Silverlok

let's face it this disaster ( which was totally preventable )

Earthquakes are preventable? Please show us how. You stand to make substantial amounts of money with your earthquake prevention scientific know-how.

a reply to: Alekto


It was preventable in the fact that the plant should have never been built on seismically unstable ground in the first place.

originally posted by: Alekto

originally posted by: Silverlok

let's face it this disaster ( which was totally preventable )

Earthquakes are preventable? Please show us how. You stand to make substantial amounts of money with your earthquake prevention scientific know-how.

It was preventable if they had installed submersible cooling pumps. TEPCO themselves stated they knew the risk of a large earthquake and tsunami. If they would have spent the money on the right equipment to safely run a nuclear reactor in a earthquake/ tsunami prone area or to not have built the reactors in the first place this disaster could have been prevented.

a reply to: Alekto
It was preventable if they had built a proper retaining wall high enough to stop the tsunami flooding.
It was preventable if they had the proper power in the first place to keep it running.
It was preventable if they had sent the proper batteries in the second place (since they didn't have them on site in the first place) instead of the wrong ones.
It was preventable if they had built them away from the ocean's edge, away from fresh water and on higher ground.
"IT WAS PREVENTABLE!" is the point.
If you actually read the post Silverlok didn't say the earthquake was preventable - he said the 'disaster' was preventable.

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Alekto


It was preventable in the fact that the plant should have never been built on seismically unstable ground in the first place.

Actually. The whole of Japan is seismically active.

a reply to: Alekto


Which is exactly why Japan shouldn't have any nuclear plants period. Mankind has been trying to beat Mother Nature for centuries... she will win everytime.

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Alekto


Which is exactly why Japan shouldn't have any nuclear plants period. Mankind has been trying to beat Mother Nature for centuries... she will win everytime.

Yes, and then the circular argument (pages back) will again be but we need nuclear reactors to even power the computers we are complaining about nuclear reactors on - forgetting that MOST of the world does not use nuclear power and is doing just fine without them. Nuclear plants are so not necessary, it is a complete brainwash trying to convince the masses we can't live without them - the truth is we will not live with them.

Building them in the first place is stupid.
Building them ANYWHERE on or near a fault line is insane.
Building them ANYWHERE on or near a fault line next to the ocean is psychopathic.
If Japan is full of fault lines they shouldn't have any reactors, period. They have sun. They have wind. They have water. All provide clean energy. If anyone did an ounce of research they'd soon find out what a sham the nuclear industry really is. Yes, let's all believe in our governments, lololol... they will care for us.... yeah, right.

This thread is about the ongoing disaster at Fukushima.

Arguments about coal power vs nuclear power and such should be started in a separate thread not in this forum.

As noted above, these same discussions have been around the block and back numerous times during the last 3+ years.

3 radiation monitors down for 3 days in the pool to accept fuel assemblies from reactor4 SFP

3 radiation monitors were down for 3 days in common usage pool.

This pool is to stock the fuel assemblies removed from reactor4 spent fuel pool.

The monitors are to measure the atmospheric dose one a day. They didn’t measure from 4/19 to 4/21.

Tepco didn’t notice it until 13:45 of 4/22/2014.

They measured the radiation level manually, and stated the atmospheric dose didn’t significantly change from 4/18/2014.

There are two power systems in the pool. One of systems was under maintenance on 4/18 according to Tepco. However, it is not known why the other system was suspended together.

fukushima-diary.com...

F. Daiichi’s site manager Akira Ono says they have kept leaks from reaching the sea. He said, “The ultimate purpose is to prevent contaminated water from going out to the ocean, and in this regard, I believe it is under control.” However, he admitted that they have yet to gain full control of the wastewater storage and treatment situation, “It’s embarrassing to admit, but there are certain parts of the site where we don’t have full control.” Ono says the publicized leaks are probably due to the haste with which many of the storage tanks and pumping systems were built, “We were pressed to build tanks in a rush and may have not paid enough attention to quality. We need to improve quality from here. We need to improve the quality of the tanks and other facilities so that they can survive for the next 30 to 40 years of our decommission period.” Ono also said that the ALPS isotopic removal system might not be able to purify all wastewaters by the March 2015 goal. www.japantimes.co.jp...

www.hiroshimasyndrome.com...

A new robot for Fukushima accident recovery has been built. The robot, named "Sakuraichigo", was developed by a group including Nichinan (an appliance prototype company) and Chiba Institute. Sakuraichigo is an upgraded version of the “Quince” machine used since 2011. It is more compact to maneuver in tight areas, but can be unfolded into a larger unit as needed. It has four cameras as well as temperature and radiation monitoring equipment. Sakuraichigo is waterproof so it can function in radioactive liquid. It can be run wirelessly for up to eight hours and can easily climb stairs at a 45o angle. The robot was demonstrated in Tokyo on April 18 and will soon be used at F. Daiichi. mainichi.jp...

www.hiroshimasyndrome.com...

www.zerohedge.com...

They've Found the Missing Fukushima Nuclear Cores ... Scattered All Over Japan
We reported in May 2011 that authorities knew – within days or weeks – that all 3 active Fukushima nuclear reactors had melted down, but covered up that fact for months.
The next month, we reported that Fukushima’s reactors had actually suffered something much worse: nuclear melt-throughs, where the nuclear fuel melted through the containment vessels and into the ground. At the time, this was described as:
The worst possibility in a nuclear accident.
But now, it turns out that some of the Fukushima reactors have suffered even a more extreme type of damage: melt-OUTS.
By way of background, we’ve noted periodically that scientists have no idea where the cores of the nuclear reactors are.
And that highly radioactive black “dirt” has been found all over Japan.

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woo hoo only 37 more years until Fukushima is decommissioned.


Think about the facts.... here we are 3 plus years later.... no one knows where the melted cores are... radioactive water is leaking into the Pacific ocean every day.

Hot particles have been found 100's of kilometers away, including Tokyo.

I still find it strange that they use numbers from air monitoring stations that are 5 feet off the ground when the ground is magnitudes of levels higher.

a reply to: RickinVa

Yes, and my guess is that '37' years left is an understatement. Whenever real information comes from some well educated and experienced in the nuke industry, it always comes out that 'decommissioning' these things is not even possible in the first place, is deceiving. Months back I came across a long story by a nuclear plant designer/engineer who laid it all out - that they are never built properly and they can never be stopped (decommissioned). I tried to find the article a few times without success, it may have been pulled.

Unit 3 Spent Fuel Pool Temp Rises 6 Degrees

A jump in temp of 6.1 degrees Celsius (11 degrees Fahrenheit).

15.4 Degrees:
www.tepco.co.jp...

21.5 Degrees:
www.tepco.co.jp...

A few weeks ago it slowly rose to a high temp of 22 degrees Celsius.

On Edit...I finally noticed the fine print and #5 -- they had stopped the cooling system for the SFP. No reason given.

- Purple Chive

a reply to: Purplechive

It's interesting...the last time they probed Unit 3 they shut down the SFP cooling system. They didn't announce it, but that's what they did.

Uhummm...wonder why they have to shut down the SFP cooling to investigate other parts of the building?????

Curious...

Anyhow...

- Purple Chive

Unit 3 SFP Investigation Pics and Video

photo.tepco.co.jp...

They wanted to keep the nuke algae from swirling around too much and increase visibility.

- Purple Chive