Nostradamus Mabus, US Navy & ObaMABUSh Connection to Syria?

Century 2, Quatrain 62
Mabus will soon die, then will come,
A horrible undoing of people and animals,
Suddenly one will see vengeance,
100 hands , thirst , hunger , when the comet will run.

Century 6 quatrain 33

His hand finally through the bloody alus,
He will be unable to protect himself by sea,
Between two rivers he will fear the military hand,
The black and angry one will make him repent of it.

Obama
Bush

Oba "maBus" h

Ray Mabus-
Secretary of the Navy

On March 27, 2009, Mabus was nominated by President Obama as Secretary of the Department of the Navy. He was sworn in on May 19, 2009, and held a ceremonial swearing in at Washington Navy Yard on June 18, 2009 where he was re-sworn in by the Secretary of Defense Robert Gates

Wikilink:Ray Mabus


I have a theory if Nostradamus was correct in his visions, that Mabus, is the US Navy,Bush and Obama, the bloody Alus, is Syria and the use of chemical weapons, and a somehow drastic action taken in the Mediterranean that destroys the fleet there followed by massive attacks.
Or it could be that The US fleet does massive attacks followed by an unleashing of chemical weapons on the Middle East on a much larger scale......
Either way, I am thinking the crisis in Syria is about MABUS,the Bloody Alus, (Alus means ship) and the angry black one.

I really think people need to take a serious look at these verses, and possibly others having to do with world war 3 and Nostradamus. It could be happening RIGHT NOW.

If there is a mass wiping out of The US fleet outside of Syria, then this prediction will of come true and we will know who Mabus is.

Now, Mabus, is an anagram, that fits the combination of ObaMA/BUSh, and then Ray Mabus, Secretary of the Navy.

Then there is comet ISON, which will light up the sky in October.
The black and angry one, could very well be Obama, and maybe someone else, or Just Obama, it depends on how you read it.

It does fit to the current situation if there is a wiping out of the US fleet or some sort of massive release of chemical or nuclear weapons in the Middle East.

Or if there is a massive attack on Israel as retaliation for US attacks on Syria.

I am sure there is a lot more Nostradamus 3rd world war quatrains, but these I want to point out, because current events really do suggest at least the Century 2, Quatrain 62 prediction.

I am almost certain this crisis in Syria is connected to this prediction, IF there is anything to Nostradamus.


If anyone else has any other noted Nostradamus Quatrains they think are connected, now would be the time to share those. To those who don't believe Nostradamus and say his predictions could fit almost anything, yeah, they could, however, let's see what happens here over the next month, because if something REALLY BAD happens in the Middle East, Nostradamus nailed it with Mabus,
IMO.


Yes, I know it is Doom Porn, but I think maybe we are starting to see these predictions coming to light.

Only time will tell,
but it is very fitting because of the anagram, and comet passing next month.

If ISON is blue in the sky,
then it will fit the Hopi prophecy as well with the blue star Kachina.
Timing is everything.
And a lot of things seem to be falling into place.

Or maybe it is nothing

Did you get inspired from John Hogue? Who was on Coast Last night.

People have been attempting to tie Ray Mabus to this Mabus character since he became Ambassador to Saudi Arabia. I lived in MS when he was governor and I say that I think this particular theory does not wash out.

reply to post by Darkblade71


Nostradamus is a false prophet. His "prophesies" are too vague and could be applied to anything. Not to mention the different and mostly inaccurate translations and interpretations.

reply to post by American-philosopher


No actually, I didn't. This is something I have been thinking about for a few days after reading another thread on Nostradamus, Mabus and Ison.

I think that thread is here:
Nostradamus,Mabus,and Comet ISON

Nostradamus's naming of "Hister" (Hitler) in his most famous quatrain is
the one thing about Nostradamus that defies my mind's ability to debunk.

As vague and enigmatic as most of his prophesies were I still cannot get
past the fact that at least a few were very close and came to pass...

If Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus decides to sail to the Mid-East and
somehow thru war meets his demise there....I WILL sit up and take notice.

Though I doubt he would ever board another fighting ship in a theater of war...

reply to post by cry93


Well, I can see a connection, because Mabus is an anagram as well as a name IMO.
It is not JUST Ray Mabus, it is the situation created by Bush, and followed through with Obama.

There is more than one Mabus involved. It has a two fold meaning which makes me wonder.
Mabus=Navy and creation of the situation by OsaMABUSh.....

If there is anything to this that is.

reply to post by Darkblade71


That's a crazy coincidence because Hogue was on last night saying that same exact thing. But he was saying that is a wrong theory. But okay if you say it is all you I believe you I guess.

reply to post by American-philosopher


Well, it could very well be wrong, but after watching things kind of progress, it sure does make me wonder, and the potential is certainly there.

rival
Nostradamus's naming of "Hister" (Hitler) in his most famous quatrain is
the one thing about Nostradamus that defies my mind's ability to debunk.

Allow me then.

"In the place very near not far from Venus,
The two greatest ones of Asia and of Africa,
From the Rhine and Hister they will be said to have come,
Cries, tears at Malta and the Ligurian side."

This is one of the more popular quatrains; it is said to describe Hitler (Hister) at a meeting with Mussolini in which they made plans for Italy for formally enter the Second World War. The problem here is that Hister is a term used in the time of Nostradamus to describe the Danube river. It does seem to describe a war that has some relation to Germany, but there is no way of connecting this to Hitler or the Second World War.

Top 10 Prophesies of Nostradamus Debunked


You can read more about Nostradamus' famous prophesies and their debunkings at the link above.

reply to post by American-philosopher


I'll have to catch the archive of the show. I have not listened to coast to coast pretty much since art left. (Got siruis radio so I can listen to Art when he comes back though)

reply to post by _BoneZ_


Well, Nostradamus has been around for a long long time,and people like to say it is debunked, but just like psychic abilities in general, a lot of people don't believe, while a lot of people do...

*shrug*


Time will tell on this one.

Personally I hope it's wrong, but things just seem to be lining up in the right order.

Darkblade71
people like to say it is debunked

It almost seems like you didn't even read or comprehend my entire post, let alone visit and read the link I posted. It has nothing to do with people saying he's debunked just for poops and giggles, or because someone doesn't believe. If you had visited the link I posted, you would've seen that many of the translations are wrong. Therefore, what people have interpreted from the mistranslations is also wrong, no matter how much you want to believe.

"Hister" did not mean "Hitler". It was a word used to describe the Danube river. Which means someone misunderstood or mistranslated, and then made up a story because of it. The prophesies are not real.

Having said that, everyone is free to believe whatever they like. But, believing Nostradamus' prophesies are real is also believing in the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, Santa Claus.

reply to post by _BoneZ_


It was an Anagram Hister....Hitler AND his place of origin.



Where does the Danube start?
Same with the Rhine or at least it cuts through.
IN GERMANY.

Coincidence?
Or Dual meaning?


I know where you are coming from, and you don't have to believe, no one does, but being a person who has spent quite a few years reading Nostradamus stuff, I kind of think there IS something to it, but hey, that is just me, and I also believe in ghosts and lots of other things a lot of people don't.

lol

oops, quotes my own post instead of editing...my bad!

The new ATS setup makes it easy to do.

lol

reply to post by Darkblade71


Alright, let me try this then:

Hister (genitive Histri) is the Latin name for the Danube (especially its lower course), or for the people living along its banks.

And:

in English:

Beasts wild with hunger shall cross the rivers:
Most of the fighting shall be close by the Hister [Danube],
It shall result in the great one being dragged in an iron cage,
While the German shall be watching over the infant Rhine.

This is often interpreted to be a prediction of the war against Adolf Hitler's Nazi state in the twentieth century. However, none of the reputable sources listed support this view. In fact all of them point out that the name 'Hister' (as Nostradamus himself explains in his Almanac for 1554[2]) in fact refers in his writings to the Danube, being mentioned (as elsewhere[3]) alongside 'R[h]in' (Rhine) -- two rivers that formed the north-eastern frontier of the ancient Roman Empire.

Wiki

Every reputable source says Nostradamus was talking about Hister (Danube) and Rhine, which are two rivers. Apparently Nostradamus himself explains this in his almanac.

After knowing this and claiming that Nostradamus was referring to Hitler when Nostradamus himself says otherwise, that would be considered being deliberately deceptive and dishonest.

reply to post by _BoneZ_


Interesting.

I'm not claiming anything though, just throwing out what I think.

Thanks for the extra info on Hister.
I still think it was an anagram, one he didn't even understand that the time when he wrote it.
BUT,

This thread is about Mabus.

I hear what you are saying.

Perhaps it is all wrong, only time will tell.
(star for alternate view and sticking up for skeptical people everywhere lol)

reply to post by Darkblade71


absolute drivel, no distespect to you, but Nostradamus and all his predictions have never been shown to actually predict anything, he wrote in 16th century french, very different from modern day french, and most of what he wrote has been corrupted in translation, known fact. He was known as a handy doctor with issues relating to the plague.

"The most creative of Nostradamus interpreters was also his most ardent believer and prolific biographer, Erika Cheetham, author of some of the most popular books on Nostradamus predictions. She's best known for reinterpreting Nostradamus' reference to Hister, a part of the lower Danube river region, as a misspelled reference to Adolf Hitler. Cheetham's books were full of historical events into which she shoehorned Nostradamus' quatrains, with word, name and number substitutions whenever convenient, and she called them "amazingly accurate predictions".

This link will tell you much about this man
skeptoid.com...

reply to post by flipflop


So what if something like what I stated in my original post happens, is it still drivel?

Just curious on your thoughts on that.

Interesting article by the way, yes I did read it

How accurate are his predictions? You could fill a library with books claiming to match quatrains with major events in world history — all, of course, deciphered and published after those events occurred. The straight fact is that nobody has ever used Nostradamus' writings to predict a future event in specific terms which later came true. Nobody has ever used Nostradamus' writings to predict a future event in specific terms which later came true. Nobody has ever used Nostradamus' writings to predict a future event in specific terms which later came true.

Just to quote a paragraph from your link

Guess I am trying here...lol

And if I succeed, according to your link, I would be the first

reply to post by _BoneZ_


I'm aware Hister was a name for the Danube and in the quatrain you cited
it is most probably referring to that river. But there are other quatrains
(of course open to bias in interpretation) in which IMO "the man" Hitler
is being described.

The first quatrain is the one most readily applied to Hitler. although
Hister is not mentioned here:

From the deepest part of Western Europe
A young child will be born to poor people
Who will by his speech seduce a great multitude,
His reputation will increase in the Kingdom of the East"
(Century 3, Quatrain 35)

In this quatrain "the river" Hister is most likely
what Nos was referring too. However, in context,
you could make a reasonable case that Hitler and his
army is represented as well:

Beasts ferocious with hunger will cross the rivers,
The greater part of the battlefield will be against Hister.
Into a cage of iron will the great one be drawn,
When the child of Germany observes nothing.
(Century 2, Quatrain 24)


In this quatrain it cannot be argued that "Hister" is a
river...not IMO:

Liberty will not be regained,
It will be occupied by a black, proud, villainous and unjust man:
When the matter of the Pontiff is opened,
The republic of Venice will be vexed by Hister.
(Century 5, Quatrain 29)