My name is Tom Carey, and I have spent the past 22 years researching the Roswell incident. Ask me an

Originally posted by The GUT
Mr Carey, thank you for your time here at ATS.

The Roswell Incident has provided hope for many of us that have become convinced that the UFO phenomenon represents something truly anomalous that includes some form of non-human intelligence.

However, after reading many books on the subject and scouring other sources it seems to me that when put under a microscope the crashed ET craft hypothesis does not hold up.

I know that many of the earler books by Randle, Scmitt, Moore, etc. were shown to have faulty information and some items were even publicly retracted in later books.

For starters, it seems as if Jesse Marcel Sr is on numerous records showing a willingness for exaggeration at the very least. Exaggeration is a mild term. The following are some items it appears he exaggerated:

1.) Exaggeration of college degree

2.) Exaggeration of pilot experience and flight hours

3.) Exaggeration of role in President Truman announcing the first nuclear explosion by the Soviet Union

Most of the other very few so-called first-hand witnesses also seem to have been convincingly shown to have problems with their stories.

My question: Do you acknowledge and factor these instances in to your investigation and your 99.9% conclusion that Roswell was an Extraterrestrial crashed-craft event ?

edit on 4-9-2013 by The GUT because: (no reason given)

It was either secret military black ops; or ET in origin, why because the USAF intelligence's LIED three times, not once but three times , after the first LIE they exaggerated the next two explanations, now there is only one course that those who lie go down, they lie,lie again, that is were the true exaggerations lie, not in people who simply witnessed something they thought was out of this world.Why does the ET explanation hold no ground..., liars walk on no real ground at all..

Mr Carey would you not agree that there are more compelling cases of crash UFOs and recovered bodies beside Roswell i know that Roswell is the event that started the whole UFO and alien concept but wouldn't it be advisable to also look beyond Roswell for the truth

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LOL are you serious

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No I edited it to my real question

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Well that is funny to

ATS mods are ruthless...ok I will ask a sensible question...

Tom, have you been to Roswell and if so, what is the canteen like there?

Edit - I've been researching the theory of Apha Beta Nut for a number of years, what advise would you give to someone who is trying to get his research published?

This question is for an admin. Would it not be better for Mr Carey to quote the entire questions being asked by the members instead of just there names? Most members have asked a few questions, it gets very confusing trying to remember which question Mr Carey is responding to. I keep going back page after page to find out whats what. Plus if Mr Carey was to quote the entire question we could just look for his posts read the question being asked and then response.

Loving this thread by the way and thanks to Mr Carey for his time in answering everyone's Q

Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by TomCarey

 

Occams razor demands that it is military terrestrial craft.

No it doesn't, depends on the information he's gathered.

Look into the Japanese Airlines case where Occam's Razor points in one and only one direction and that is intelligently controlled extraterrestrial craft.



Question for Tom: Can you tell us about the recovered materials at Roswell ie: the tinfoil-like stuff that when crumpled would always go back to it's original condition without crinkles, and the bars with strange symbols written on them? Who was in possession of it and what happened to that stuff? Thanks. NAM

Originally posted by outerspace
it gets very confusing trying to remember which question Mr Carey is responding to. I keep going back page after page to find out whats what. Plus if Mr Carey was to quote the entire question we could just look for his posts read the question being asked and then

Just click on the highlighted name to which Carey's post is replying to, it'll take you straight there. No searching involved...

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Although quotes would be better you can click the top left corner where it says

reply to post by outerspace (as it does in my post here)

.....or whoever and this will take you to the original post. Better still right click over it and open it in a new tab. Then you can return to the place you were last at in the thread.

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Much appreciated thank you, my head was spinning

Now I have a question Mr. Carey.

If we assume the ET crash happened and this was triggered by the atomic bombs attracting attention in 1945 to this planet (as said earlier) then this points to two conclusions.

It took approx. TWO years before ET arrived here. Given the current laws of known physics this suggests that ET must have been present in our solar system to detect the explosions and get to earth. The signal would take FOUR years to reach the nearest stars.

So do you think that ET was closer than we think?

Or do you think ET possessed an exotic detection and space travel technology which defies our present understanding?

Originally posted by Springer
reply to post by wildtimes

 

Additionally, if you only want to read the answers you can click on "this thread" in the drop down menu inTom's profile to the left of his posts.

Springer...

My read on human nature is . . . that even

IF

you sent that in a U2U to all members . . . a goodly percentage would not see it; would not think to follow it; would not wrap their understanding around the simplicty of doing it etc.

I wasn't aware of that feature myself. LOL.

Standing by on whether to continue the compilation on the compilation thread, at present. It takes time & energy and has functionally meant that I've decided to forgo my own questions to give time to that.

However, I do it only to try and be helpful, not to distract from this thread.

Mr Carey you said a lawyer told you that you would easily win a court case with your evidences.

Isnt it possible to sue the United States Government or AF for deception of its own citizens or intimidating witnesses etc.

Regards.

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Dear Mr Carey, in the light of Col. Corso's book quoted by the ex-defense minister of Canada Paul Hellyer on Citizens' hearing 2013: Is it the start of Disclosure process, naming publicly 5 different ET races? What do you have to add to all that? Are these ET all good or may be there are some hostile races? Do you have any prognosis of how soon the real contact will occur for the common citizen of this planet? Thank you!

I see many questions just overlap each other, so I'd better read the 16 pages first....

Let put it straight: do you think we will enter into public contact with any ET race before 1/1/2014, as one of the above mentioned 5 races by Hellyer, the Andromedans already state in "their website" Andromeda council of that date and even before that? I'm sorry if it goes beyond your expertise, but the Andromedans were clearly mentioned by Paul Hellyer from Corso's book. They are not my best preference of ET anyway.
Thank you!

Originally posted by TomCarey
reply to post by Logarock

 

To my knowledge, I am unaware that a "laser" or something like it was found amongst the wreckage. There were "wires" found that resembled what we today might call fibre optics, but no "laser" per-se.

Sorry if I am late but I found this interesting. Aside from the apparent bodies and UFO was there any other notable objects suggested to have been found?

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The size of the "inner cabin" or "escape pod" that was recovered intact was approx. 4' high x 12'-16' in legnth, plus the large amount of wreckage recovered from the Debris Field Site suggests a larger craft. And we cannot speculate or anthopomorphize as to what "necessities of life" the occupants might have required on their journey.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD In reality there is absolutely no reason why people would panic if there was a simple disclosure of alien life / technology if there was no reports of everyone's lives being in danger.

In 1947, people were very very tired of war, and already starting to get fearful of the USSR's activities. The public really did not want to hear of any big even potential threat (as was Communism), they wanted to get back to normal after decades of depression and war. If ET wasn't doing anything persistently overt which politically demanded open response, why bother?

Without that, disclosure is a losing prospect for any politician: "why are you telling us now? Why didn't you tell us before? Why aren't you doing something about it? And worst of all, why should we believe you now?"

You say the government wanted to exploit the technology yet we have seen nothing technologically since that time that has not got a long and clear history of development.

Agreed, no need for ET to explain observed technological development. The results were a consequence of finally understanding enough about true basic physics (atomic theory of chemistry, electromagnetism & quantum mechanics) combined with a far larger government investment.

Then again, ET technology couldn't be understood unless there was a significant base of human understanding first.

Finding a flying saucer is OK, but doesn't really help. What really helps is reverse-engineering a flying saucer factory.

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I'm glad you asked, so I can set people straight who think we are "raking it in" with Roswell. Counting all that I received in book sale royalties, lecture fees and appearance stipends, my "take" has been just slightly in excess of my expenses incurred over the past 22 years pursuant the investigation of Roswell. And, no, I am receiving no remuneration whatsoever for my participation here on the ATC Forum.