Goddess Worship And The Babel Religions

Luke 6:37 ESV

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Matthew 7:1-5 ESV

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Romans 14:1-23 ESV

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...

Matthew 7:1-2 ESV

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

1 Corinthians 4:1-21 ESV

This is how one should regard us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God. Moreover, it is required of stewards that they be found trustworthy. But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by any human court. In fact, I do not even judge myself. For I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God. ...

John 8:7 ESV

And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

See, the point is the Bible is a true paradox….. For everything you can throw at me in scripture, I can throw back at you. Where does that get us? You choose which you want to believe? Or what?

I couldn't care less, really. But I'm through participating with so called "christians" who do nothing to uphold the Word, or faith, and instead, simply alienate more than they include with what they pick and choose......

reply to post by Klassified


I appreciate what you're saying, but since we do have scripture, I believe God has the power to preserve it. Just like the Old Testament texts that were used when Jesus walked the earth. We know that Jesus quoted from 24 books of the Old Testament and even said...

Luke 24:44

44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Matthew 22:29

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

By the way, the scriptures that you quoted from Jeremiah and Ezekiel both were pertaining to the Millennial period to come and how he will change them before it starts. The time when we won't even need to prophesy or consult anyone else, because Jesus will be right here during that 1,000 year reign.

reply to post by tetra50

And it's amusing, as well, if not downright so saddening I could cry about it, that all you can come up with in response to a very deep subject that I implored you to recognize the superficiality and negation of it, is all you can reply to me with are verses about prostitution......

You said you doubted the part about prostitution, so I provided the scripture.

Just so you know, this thread is moving so fast, I'm having trouble keeping up with every single comment and question.

As for your comment about women on their periods, there were several laws that had to do with "blood" in general, whether it was blood from animals or humans. Besides the importance of cleanliness, there is a mystery about blood that runs throughout the Bible, but that's for a Google search and independent study, since I don't want to go into that on this thread.

reply to post by tetra50

saving all those who would be saved, by faith, not by acts.

From the way you were writing, I couldn't understand exactly the point you were trying to make, but the Bible teaches us basically that acts are dead without faith and faith is dead without works. Does that help?

reply to post by Deetermined


Actually, the Bible itself, speaks of the chapter of Jeremiah, in particular, having been burned, and rewritten later.
Just another point, that we really don't know for sure, today in particular…… If you don't realize that, you aren't much of an historian. God didn't burn it. People did. And people rewrote it as they saw fit, just as people choce since the Council of Nicea what should be included and what should not.

I understand, completely, that you would likely believe God works through people to preserve his Word, as He worked through people to write that Word.......but surely, you must see, that there is more than God working today....and sometimes, it is a test for us. Just as He may be testing us with the discernment to believe literally and fully in a text, today, that may have suffered many corruptions.....and we are asked to still keep true faith, knowing this and despite it. This, to me, is what it means to have faith......to believe in what does not appear to be.....

I mean no offense to you or your beliefs, We just do not see it quite the same way.
Sincerely,
Tetra50

ETA: The Word, is NOT God. Faith is not exemplified by the Word. The Word is an oral history that has been passed down to us in order to give us strength and faith, when the Word does not seem to apply in times we live in......that He is still there, still loves, accepts and protects us.
IMHO

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by tetra50

 

saving all those who would be saved, by faith, not by acts.

From the way you were writing, I couldn't understand exactly the point you were trying to make, but the Bible teaches us basically that acts are dead without faith and faith is dead without works. Does that help?

Yes, but I don't necessarily agree. I think God knew we would come to times such as this, where the judgement of people and their acts are ambiguous, at best, by virture of technology, which can easily make the guilty seem innocent, and vice verse. I think this was foreseen, because time, after all, is a circular thing, which means we have been here before, and HE KNEW, already. This is why we were cautioned about judgement and discernment, to me. Is it for you to judge my works, or acts? How could you even know them? How could you then know my faith?

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I guess a few gay guys having sex in Sodom and Gomorrah back in the day was worse than countries dropping atom bombs on each other that has affected everyone in the area for generations, or the atrocities happening in the Middle East today?

You do or don't realize that throughout ALL of the people in Sodom and Gomorrah, only Lot was ultimately saved? When the Bible says that it will be like the days of Noah before it all comes to an end, we may have to wait until there's only 8 righteous people left living in the world? Not literally, but I'm not seeing every person outside of my immediate family as being evil and unrighteous.

reply to post by tetra50


Like anyone or anything else, I guess you can just take from John, Chapter 10 what you want and leave the rest.

reply to post by tetra50

What about being Christian makes people become arrogant with their knowlegde and/or belief system? I wonder.

All anyone has to do is post a scripture to be called arrogant on this website. People don't like what they read in the Bible and then they want to blast the Christians for repeating it.

You said you doubted the part about prostitution, so I provided the scripture.

Just so you know, this thread is moving so fast, I'm having trouble keeping up with every single comment and question.

As for your comment about women on their periods, there were several laws that had to do with "blood" in general, whether it was blood from animals or humans. Besides the importance of cleanliness, there is a mystery about blood that runs throughout the Bible, but that's for a Google search and independent study, since I don't want to go into that on this thread.

reply to post by Deetermined


Okay, thanks for all your explanations. I understand. It is moving fast, and there is a running mystery there, I agree, and this is not the thread for it. However, there is nothing unclean about a woman's menses, that provides life....... I've researched plenty what you refer to about the mystery of blood, and it's way beyond what google or your computer will tell you. Just saying....... It's much deeper, and what you read here, on a computer, should be no more taken for granted as truth, to me, than the current translation of the Word is....

When the Bible says that it will be like the days of Noah before it all comes to an end, we may have to wait until there's only 8 righteous people left living in the world? Not literally, but I'm not seeing every person outside of my immediate family as being evil and unrighteous.

Thank you for realizing that, for there are still many well intended, faithful here. At least, I survive and get up every morning invested in that belief and faith....

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by tetra50

 

What about being Christian makes people become arrogant with their knowlegde and/or belief system? I wonder.

All anyone has to do is post a scripture to be called arrogant on this website. People don't like what they read in the Bible and then they want to blast the Christians for repeating it.

edit on 29-8-2013 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)

I am sorry you see it that way. I don't agree with you, there. Perhaps with time, you will read all my responses and think about them, let them sit with you for a minute or so, as the thread is moving fast.......

I posted scripture, myself. I believe in scripture. Don't mistake me. But as I said earlier, the Word, itself, is a paradox, from which we are asked to accept the test, and survive with our character, and faith, not just in God, but in each other. And I have faith in you, for you are committed. But, my belief is we must all open our minds in these days, for we are being tested.....
Sincerely,
Tetra50

reply to post by tetra50

And you think what you are doing here is taking up the cross? Oh my God. Help us all, please.
who care what line it is....if this is how the faithful define what being faithful is.....

It means following Jesus, having faith, and spreading his message through thick and thin, hard times as well as good times and to endure to the end. The day will come when spreading Jesus' message will probably become as dangerous as it was to the apostles.

reply to post by tetra50


What's up? Did you witness someone judging someone in this thread? Or did you just perceive it that way? You know, the same way you perceive the attack on ALL women?

reply to post by Deetermined

Genesis 6
11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence. 12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. 13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.

How is this passage any different from what we see today? Did god literally mean ALL people were corrupt down to every woman and child? Or did he mean it figuratively like Jesus?

Sorry to break it to you, but the world has been violent and corrupt for thousands and thousands of years.

Only with today's technology do we see it at such a wide and international scale. Unless the people of Noah's time were as advanced or more advanced than we are today, there is absolutely no way it was more violent back then than it is today, and I haven't read anything in the OT about nuclear warheads and chemical weapons being dropped on cities or people running around with machine guns killing crowds of people.

Honestly, the only reason you assume it was worse back then is because you can't cope with the fact that god allows the things that happen today to happen without intervening to stop it.

"If he hasn't stopped it yet today, it MUST have been worse back then." Bollocks.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by tetra50

 

And you think what you are doing here is taking up the cross? Oh my God. Help us all, please.
who care what line it is....if this is how the faithful define what being faithful is.....

It means following Jesus, having faith, and spreading his message through thick and thin, hard times as well as good times and to endure to the end. The day will come when spreading Jesus' message will probably become as dangerous as it was to the apostles.

You do me an injustice, as does your following post. I know what it means, very well. That day is now, if you hadn't noticed. What is it to be a Christian in the Middle East, not just now, but for some time? You think I need to be schooled on this?

See, this is where the judgement factor comes in. You don't really know me, nor my life, nor do I know you or yours. We are just commenting sort of blindly on this website. And so it is very easy for you to make assumptions and me, as well.

Yeah, sorry, I do see a pattern in organized Christian religion to blame all women for the choice Eve supposedly made. Are you kidding, you don't see that? It is why there are no women priests, very few female clergy, and the female, in general, has been left out of a generally patriarchal religion, and this isn't the only one that does it.
You really want to argue that standpoint? How many Muslim, Buddhist, etc. women heads of clergy do you see?
And do you not think that has something to do with the whole creation story? Come on.

reply to post by Deetermined

As for your comment about women on their periods, there were several laws that had to do with "blood" in general, whether it was blood from animals or humans. Besides the importance of cleanliness, there is a mystery about blood that runs throughout the Bible, but that's for a Google search and independent study, since I don't want to go into that on this thread.

I find it ironic that you don't want to talk about blood, and it's significance, in a thread that bashes the Goddess. The Goddess, who bleeds life giving sacred blood freely, does so without sacrifice or the killing of innocent animals, but "GOD" thought that blood to be unclean, preferring animal blood. The Goddess who brings forth all flora and fauna, perpetually pregnant, while the "GOD" of the OT was happily killing her men, women and children.

reply to post by tetra50

ETA: The Word, is NOT God. Faith is not exemplified by the Word. The Word is an oral history that has been passed down to us in order to give us strength and faith, when the Word does not seem to apply in times we live in......that He is still there, still loves, accepts and protects us. IMHO

This is where we differ because I ABSOLUTELY see the Bible applying to the times we live in based on what it says is/will be coming.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by tetra50

 

What's up? Did you witness someone judging someone in this thread? Or did you just perceive it that way? You know, the same way you perceive the attack on ALL women?

This is unnecessary, in my estimation. Windword gave you a very good example of what's up, and so did I, right before that post. A foundation, if you will, about how women are viewed and their "place" in religion, all of them being particularly fraternal in nature.

Now, did you read my post about the Tower of Babel perhaps also being representative of our division, not just by race, religion, language, but by gender, as well, for this is an excellent example of that. There is more to life than one Word, and even faith.....my friend....

Even God told us so.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Sorry to break it to you, but the world has been violent and corrupt for thousands and thousands of years.

Yes, I know. The Bible is explicit about the fact that corruption started over again in the new world as early as the curse on Noah's grandson. It just goes to show that no matter if God sets the reset button, it only takes a generation to screw it up. That's why we need a Savior.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Honestly, the only reason you assume it was worse back then is because you can't cope with the fact that god allows the things that happen today to happen without intervening to stop it.

I don't know about you, but I don't see people in my town killing each other or fearing the people in the next town over from killing us and taking our homes and belongings. Also, I'm not aware of any prostitution rings taking place in any of the churches or temples either.