89-Year-old WWII Vet Beaten to Death by 2 Black Teens - Developing

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Come on guys, we're smarter than that here. Let's not post these divisive stories. Instead of highlighting black on white and white on black violence, why not just recognize the plain and simple FACT that we have people worse than animals living among us? Violence comes from all races and we KNOW that, so what exactly is the point? For every black on white crime there is a white on black crime, Hispanic on white and black, white on Asian, Asian on white.

Are some of you seriously going to deny that violence, ignorance, hate and downright insanity is inherent in ALL human beings regardless of race or culture? You are not going to accomplish anything at all (other than to promote further violence and hate) if you present these stories in such a reactionary and retaliatory way.

I agree with you but I also believe that these crimes happen because of division amongst races caused by TPTB.
This is a common divide and conquer tactic to keep us from questioning our government, the banking industry and the media among others! It's too bad that there are many in this world who have failed to see the world in the
light of truth but only see the propagandized garbage perpetuated by the media and our leaders! Though this is not the only tactic being used to divide us it may be the most useful to the MIC!

Originally posted by ButterCookie
Bill Oreilly said it best when he called this one: the single parent home is the root cause of dysfunctional upbringing in the black family.

Now please, don't anyone try to 'refute' this argument as if I am speaking about the entire black population, nor if I am asserting that this issue is not occuring in other race.

But blacks are experiencing the epidemic and need to be addressed accordingly, Truth is, you don't see this type of degenerate backwards behavior AS RAMPANT in other races/culture...so don't come with the "but a white person did such and such..." weak argument.

Why? Because this is not a big as a problem as it is with blacks.

Also, blacks cannot accept corrective critcism, and if they do, it better not come from a white person, lest they be labled a 'racist'. Hell, when it comes from blacks, they are labeled 'Uncle Toms'.

Blacks want no accountability for this dysfunctional and degnerative behavior.

And this is why the black race is indeed going BACKWARDS.

You're exactly right. Here in New Orleans there are huge segments of the black population that literally behave like animals. My husband and I own homes in a couple other states as well where there are almost no black communities; the crime difference is stunning and unavoidable. We have to stop pretending that this isn't a problem. I don't hate blacks or make blanket statements. One of my closest and dearest friends is black and believe me she will stand with me in saying, the black community needs to get its sh*t together.

As for these two teens that killed the Vet and the ones in Oklahoma that killed the Aussie? Hang them in public and let their rotting carcasses serve as warning to other animals. Period.

reply to post by RadarOReilly


Agreed!!

There is a pink elephant in the room that many are afraid to address....this animalistic behavior can no longer be excsed and from the posts I have read on other sites regarding this issue, WILL NOT be excused. People are ready to fight back, and rightfully so. Damn being called a 'racist'.

I always wondered why the left wants to disarm us....now I understand. They KNOW of their chaotic, animalistic, degenerative subculture that they have created, and do not want their party base killed off.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Come on guys, we're smarter than that here. Let's not post these divisive stories. Instead of highlighting black on white and white on black violence, why not just recognize the plain and simple FACT that we have people worse than animals living among us? Violence comes from all races and we KNOW that, so what exactly is the point? For every black on white crime there is a white on black crime, Hispanic on white and black, white on Asian, Asian on white.

Are some of you seriously going to deny that violence, ignorance, hate and downright insanity is inherent in ALL human beings regardless of race or culture? You are not going to accomplish anything at all (other than to promote further violence and hate) if you present these stories in such a reactionary and retaliatory way.

This says it all imo. Fuel to the fire. People are saying that the PTB are stoking the flames of hatred. If that is the case then why play into their hands?

The Vicarious crowd... Easily entertained and interested in violence....... especially at someone else's expense. All the answers, always able to point out those that should be made to pay.....

Where are you people from? Now if you were from real places with real problems, like Detroit or San Bernardino or Vegas or Chicago just to name the ones getting coverage. But what about small town America where we are still plugging along despite all the corruption in government that befalls us, and a morally bankrupt leadership. Even with those things against us, we are taking care of our own.. Where's these atrocities ? You have States with a propensity towards crime, but their well known. They have always had their bad sides, and always will.

Stir it up, 'who's with me', 'lets go break some skulls', gonn'a give 'em hell, and take back our........... our what? Who are we going to do this to? someone who can quickly be distinguished because of their color? Or their clothing ? And as you crush that skull and quickly get the hell out of Dodge, make your rampage escape, are you going to be able to get that picture out of your head? Are you going to be able to justify it? Are You the problem?

reply to post by intrepid


I don't think it is so much that (some) people are 'playing into it'...its just that people are actually being affected by the (liberal adminstration's) racisim.

When the liberal picks and chooses which crimes will be considered as hate crimes, race crimes, etc, especially when its lopsided such as in recent events, it creates yet another feeling of entitlement in a 'priviliged' class.

Look at the issue of Obama's Executive Order on public school's made to 'curb' the discipline given to black students..

See, this entitled 'privileged' class is seeing that they do not have to be responisble or held accountable for their behavior...thus, criminal acts on other 'classes/races' can may began to become more frequent.

reply to post by ButterCookie


Exactly my point. You see the problem being the PTB BUT then ya'll get on the train with these topics. Fuel the hatred.

This is a good example of why I believe they should bring back public executions. Hang these scum in the streets as a example to the rest. Our society is sick of this animalistic behavior and total disregard for human life. If their existence is so miserable that they need to take it out on others then let's just end their suffering and everyone else's. it's not a black or white issue it's a disease that is beginning to run rampant thru society. Tptb raise awareness for diseases such as swine flu bird flu cancer aids ect ect... And how we need to find cures. There is a simple cure for this disease, now line these scum up for their vaccinations!

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by ButterCookie

 

Exactly my point. You see the problem being the PTB BUT then ya'll get on the train with these topics. Fuel the hatred.

Not fueling, but having healthy discussion. Understanding is the best tool against fear of the unknown.

This 'issue' is affectng society, can't deny that. And unfortunately it may affect how one race looks at most members of another, but that's reality.

Would you rather that no one spoke of it? Would it go away?

Originally posted by ButterCookie
Not fueling, but having healthy discussion. Understanding is the best tool against fear of the unknown.

This 'issue' is affectng society, can't deny that. And unfortunately it may affect how one race looks at most members of another, but that's reality.

Would you rather that no one spoke of it? Would it go away?

That's not what I'm seeing though. I'm seeing pissed off people and getting more so all the time. Look at some of the posts HERE. And ATS is a much more relaxed site than most. It isn't getting better with discussion, it's getting worse.

This is absolutely sick.

There needs to be a Draft with college exemptions and steady work exemptions to force all these idle good for nothing punks into the army digging ditches.

That could have been my Grandpa!

I would nail them to a wall, set fire to there nether regions, and sit back and watch them flop around in agony!

That's what they deserve!

And there time will come!

Poor old Man, you fought the good fight, rest in peace now buddy!

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
This is absolutely sick.

There needs to be a Draft with college exemptions and steady work exemptions to force all these idle good for nothing punks into the army digging ditches.

Unfortunately most probably wouldn't qualify for the Army.

Originally posted by bg_socalif

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
This is absolutely sick.

There needs to be a Draft with college exemptions and steady work exemptions to force all these idle good for nothing punks into the army digging ditches.

Unfortunately most probably wouldn't qualify for the Army.

Hey, 17 years old and don't want to go school? Start filling sandbags punks. Standards for certain placements can be fudged any way they want.

reply to post by Strewth


Is it really necessary to say they are black (regardless of it being true)? Stop perpetuating racism. They are just teens.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by bg_socalif

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
This is absolutely sick.

There needs to be a Draft with college exemptions and steady work exemptions to force all these idle good for nothing punks into the army digging ditches.

Unfortunately most probably wouldn't qualify for the Army.

Hey, 17 years old and don't want to go school? Start filling sandbags punks. Standards for certain placements can be fudged any way they want.

YEP, back in 68-69 and 70 they (the military draft) were taking about anyone that had all their parts intact.

There's plenty of desk work too and paper pushing to be done. That is if these young teens can't scrape up enough energy to do actual work.... I'm all for a draft, not necessarily a military one, but one that also includes civil jobs and non-combat service.

Originally posted by th3onetruth
reply to post by Strewth

 

Is it really necessary to say they are black (regardless of it being true)? Stop perpetuating racism. They are just teens.

Yes! It is VERY necessary to say they are black.

Quit trying to take the spotlight off of this problem and see it for what it is: an epidemic of young black males who are completely useless to society.

That was not racial..that was real.

Report that they are black in the same manner that George Zimmerman was reported as white, and then white-hispanic.

Its always an issue to report race if it happens to a black person and the perp is non-black....but when blacks commit it, "let's not discuss race...race had nothing to do with it...can't we all just get along??"

'Race' only when its convinient, heh?

This story came to me, the same day my grandfather (a veteran) had a small heart attack. To think, given the sacrifices this man made, it's almost unbelievable he'd succumb to a brutal beating from two people whom are a part of the country he helped defend. My heart, goes out to this mans family and my thanks for his service.

As for that, lets not digress from this WWII vet, to something ignorant such as "Race Wars" and "Injecting race into descriptors." Two black people, beat this man viciously, and no matter how much we despise the villain, we're all brothers & sisters of the human race, leading very different lives and fighting very difficult battles. The tragedy is, one man is now dead, and two misguided teens who could have chosen to live good, meaningful lives, are gone as well. Undoubtedly, they will be punished for the evil they've perpetrated.

If we must point fingers, we need to start at the root and decide. Is the enemy "who", or "what"? Is it the people? Or is it the culture? Are we products of a culture? Or is the culture a product of us. I've no definite answer to the following. As human beings, stop searching for answers within the unspeakable, instead, think and question. Would this man be alive today with, or without the culture? Would he be alive today if these people were with, or without guidance? Keep in mind, evil comes in many forms, and thug culture is only an ingredient of the recipe.

Take it upon yourselves to part from your natural emotional response to blame our misguided brothers&sisters, and peer deeper into the issue. We're working with the mysterious here, and in these tragedies we often count the loss, but discount the lost. Everyone, is at a loss and death, isn't the only form of it. Balance.

With that, these recent events are indeed saddening, and again my heart goes out to the family(s). Refrain from digressing to discussions of "Race Wars", because we're all homo sapiens. Regardless.

All human beings are one big family

Originally posted by IvanAstikov
reply to post by seabag

 

"Within the home and federal enclaves"

In 1960, there were about 5,000 enclaves, with about one million people living on them. These numbers would undoubtedly be lower today because many of these areas were military bases that have been closed and transferred out of federal ownership.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Says nothing about carrying them in public places.

Did you see the part that said “such as”?

the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home and within federal enclaves

en.m.wikipedia.org...


Homes and federal enclaves were just examples. That wasn’t designed to be an all inclusive list of approved places.

The federal government doesn’t GRANT our right to bear arms. Our rights are inherent. Whether or not someone can carry a gun on their person is up to the states and the people. May I remind you of the 10th Amendment…

…..powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people.

en.wikipedia.org...

Its funny to see people condemn violence only to then turn around and demand more.