Congressional officials: terrorist threat a good way to divert attention from the uproar over NSA

Qaeda Messages Prompt U.S. Terror Warning

But intercepting electronic communications is one the National Security Agency’s main jobs, as the documents leaked by Edward J. Snowden, a former N.S.A. contractor, have only underscored. At the request of intelligence officials, The New York Times withheld some details about the intercepted communications.

Some analysts and Congressional officials suggested Friday that emphasizing a terrorist threat now was a good way to divert attention from the uproar over the N.S.A.'s data-collection programs, and that if it showed the intercepts had uncovered a possible plot, even better.

Not much to add, is there?

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So I guess we should prepare for another false flag to justify the surveillance.

What this ex CIA man and analyst says in the article,


“A decision to close this many embassies and issue a global travel warning for a month suggests the threat is real, advanced and imminent but the intelligence is incomplete on where,” said Bruce Riedel, a former C.I.A. case officer and a Brookings Institution scholar.
So they know everything except where? Given that the CIA/NCTC can pratically plug into your backside, I find that hard to swallow.

This is like the dog that bit the mail carrier
thinking they can make up for it
by barking and snarling at strangers even more.
Scaring everyone out of the house.

If the NSA wants to make itself useful
tell me who kidnapped that tourist in Mexico,
show the text messages of the ones who grabbed those hikers in Kurdistan,
and give me the GPS locations of the criminal gangs that have flooded Paris.

In a word
do something for ME,
instead of doing things to me.


Mike

I would imagine, or I should say hope, that most people are now aware of the connection between "terrorism" and "political scandal." We all know what you're doing, and we all know surveillance isn't the end game.

We're getting to a point that I wish TPTB would just make their big move. Stop beating around the bush and do it. You're not fooling anyone, at least not like you used to. Man up, grow a pair, and push your agenda.

Turtle or Hare's pace, this thing is still going to end the same way. In a revolution.
Might as well rip off the band-aid and get it over with.

Ever see a a movie called Wag the Dog? The Trayvon/Zimmerman distraction has already worn off. Time for a new distraction. Anything to keep us from focusing on the illegal activities of our CROOKED AS # CORRUPT GOVERNMENT.

I love my Country, I hate apathetic Americans. I am counting the days till I leave this # hole for an honest Country, like Mexico. At least they wear their corruption on their sleeve instead of hiding it behind all the bull# our Government feeds us.

I forgot to mention the recent gaolbreaks in Iraq, Libya and Pakistan. Libya's break was massive, so was this an unconnected attack just to free Al Qaeda members up for something, or was it something that prompted this lastest round of terror attack warnings or, as a means of embellishing such a warning. The paper's report deals mostly with online 'chatter' I don't believe for a minute, that these breakouts will not be included in addition to the online chatter.

That ordinary people will get hurt from some source or another now, is probably on the cards though. The thing to do is listen very carefully what analysts are saying in news reports, like the guy from Brookings, I would say you will get the same spin from equivalent institutes around the world, and the spin word will be something like, "intelligence is so good now, that this threat needs to be taken seriously"

Originally posted by smurfy
What this ex CIA man and analyst says in the article,


“A decision to close this many embassies and issue a global travel warning for a month suggests the threat is real, advanced and imminent but the intelligence is incomplete on where,” said Bruce Riedel, a former C.I.A. case officer and a Brookings Institution scholar.
So they know everything except where? Given that the CIA/NCTC can pratically plug into your backside, I find that hard to swallow.

the cia just hasn't come to an agreement as to the where, but they will make a false flag as soon as possible, that's what that means.

Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle

Originally posted by smurfy
What this ex CIA man and analyst says in the article,


“A decision to close this many embassies and issue a global travel warning for a month suggests the threat is real, advanced and imminent but the intelligence is incomplete on where,” said Bruce Riedel, a former C.I.A. case officer and a Brookings Institution scholar.
So they know everything except where? Given that the CIA/NCTC can pratically plug into your backside, I find that hard to swallow.

the cia just hasn't come to an agreement as to the where, but they will make a false flag as soon as possible, that's what that means.

That, is what I am saying I my other post.

This reminds of all the terrorist alerts during the Bush years.

Although, Al Qaeda has been busting out their brethren from prisons all across the Middle East recently so I'm sure the threat is increasing but if the White House is so concerned with them then they should just Skype them and tell them to stand down via the NSA.

Originally posted by Swills
This reminds of all the terrorist alerts during the Bush years.

Although, Al Qaeda has been busting out their brethren from prisons all across the Middle East recently so I'm sure the threat is increasing but if the White House is so concerned with them then they should just Skype them and tell them to stand down via the NSA.

Or better yet, END THEIR PAY. Even terrorists dont work for free. Except when they have goals, like the IRA or PLO . But when you are dealing with genuine terrorists you see ministers running for cover, like when the IRA mortared British parliament.

When you are dealing with terrorists whom are directed by the country that needs a terrorist attack on its own territorries to justify this and that, then the higest ranking target is a Burger King restaurant manager or something. The royals and the leaders of politics and finance dont use public transport.

I find it really strange that this is all happening on Aug. 4th (Obama's Birthday) Maybe all the prison breaks were planned. (by whom, I have no idea) But, something is really amiss with all this. There is something really off about all this.

The "war on terror" is a politician's wet dream -- give us money, money, money.

As long as the CIA, Mossad, and Al-Qaeda sustain their psychopathic circle jerk -- millions, and millions, and millions of people will continue suffering.

"I suppose leadership at one time meant muscles; but today it means getting along with people." --Mahatma Gandhi

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Closing the embassies makes us "safer".
Higher taxes makes us "safer".
Fewer freedoms makes us "safer".
The NSA makes us "safer".
Terrorist threats makes us "safer".

Doesn't everyone feel safer?

An interesting question.

Are we safer than we were? Did Obama make us safer? Did Bush make us safer with the Patriot Act?

Were we safer with more freedoms, or are we safer with less?

Fron what I was reading yesterday, this all seems to have been instigated by the State Department, however the DHS had no elevated threat warnings or advisories on it's site nor had it issued any!

You'd think they might at least like to all issue the BS in a unified manner!

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Are we safer than we were? Did Obama make us safer? Did Bush make us safer with the Patriot Act?

LF: On another a topic, security, we meet as the Obama administration is defending having secured FISA Court requests from internet corporations essentially to seize not only telephone records, but email records of possibly millions of Americans. They say it was important for fighting terrorism.

NC: If we had anything like a free press, there would be headlines saying this is a bad joke. The Obama administration is dedicated to increasing terrorism. In fact, he is doing it all over the world. Obama is running the biggest terrorist operation that exists, maybe in history. The drone assassination campaigns - which are just part of the special forces operations and so on - all of these operations are terror operations.

LF: How so?

NC: Well suppose you're walking down the street, you don't know whether two minutes from now the guy across the street and everything around him is going to be blown away by a sudden explosion run by somebody a couple of thousand miles away: You're terrorized. And in fact, in villages, regions, countries, [people] are terrorized by these operations and have a reaction. People just don't say "Fine, I don't mind if my cousin is murdered." They do mind. And they become what we call terrorists. This is completely understood from the highest level, that as you carry out these operations, you're generating terrorism. First of all, they are terrorist operations, and they are generating more terrorist operations.

Noam Chomsky: "Bradley Manning Should Be Regarded as a Hero"

That quote in the OP should mean treason, and is pretty the most important quote every seen and NY Times published it, media published that they were discussing using false flags.

Was actually thinking this yesterday.... false flag!

reply to post by MindBodySpiritComplex

You mean the government employs scare tactics via Al-CIAeda in order to control the sheeple?

I dont believe it.

Ridge admits Bush administration pushed to raise security alert for political reasons on eve of re-election.

Former Bush Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge is releasing a book on September 1 titled, “The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege…and How We Can Be Safe Again.” U.S. News’ Paul Bedard reports that, in the book, Ridge reveals that he considered resigning because he was urged to issue a politically-motivated security alert on the eve of Bush’s re-election:...

So obvious how the government (or really just people with power) manipulates events. SO OBVIOUS! If you told me 10 years ago this is how it is, no way I would believe you. Nothing is by chance, everything permitted. The thing is every day more and more people are seeing it for what it is.

The bogus "terrorist" attacks will only serve to expose them more. Them being those in power and really responsible.

Call it blind optimism but one could indeed see those in power as desperate right now. People worldwide are watching. People worldwide know somethings up. They are sacrificing their rook to go into a losing endgame, or just going all out grabbing pawns until checkmate.