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Originally posted by anonentity
But on the plus side Someone mapped an ice free Antarctica and Greenland.
Originally posted by darkbake
Any idea where I can find these maps? One likely location of Atlantis is on Antarctica itself...
Originally posted by Shiloh7
Fantastic thread and such a good read. I have the O"Brien book and his follow up book both of which are well researche.
O'Brien always took Atlantis to be in the Atlantic Ocean and the Azores the remaining part above water.
Why people seem to hate this idea amazes me when they fish around elsewhere grabbing at straws. Atlantis was sitting on a 'T' junction of jtectonic plates and the grinding of the plates alone would have made it an interesting place to live.
It was also the mid stop off between Europe, Africa and the Americas.
The northern hemisphere was under a lot of ice so man would have been considerably busier and living in the southerm hemisphere. We know that the Polynesians were terrific sea-faring people, Nan Madol is an island that needs explanation for its construction which we probably also cound not manage even today. The actual height of its rise is mind bogglingj. In the UK our most expensive real estate is on Sand Banks and that is supposedly currently threatened by global warming and higher sea levels, yet houses go for millions and if the sea rises the investment
The point about people chosing to live near the sea is something that I had taken for granted but not considered in the light of the disappearance of so many different cultures when the sea level rose. The actual height of its rise is mind boggling, especially if you add the natural sinking of land into the equation as possibly with Atlantis, where also vulcanoes played their part. There is no sense to where people chose to live. In the UK Sandbanks is built on sand and is one of the most expensive real estate areas in the world. So with global rising is it wise to invest there
well the wealthy are - reminds me of King Canute 'Up came the tide and away went he'
I have never accepted the idea that ancient man was stupid in any way he had to be clever to survive and we know lived in groups which shows social order.
I do hope that our real history gets written and think that dna which is so fascinating also is our best hope to discovering who we are and our past ancestors.
Originally posted by darkbake
Any idea where I can find these maps? One likely location of Atlantis is on Antarctica itself...edit on 2-8-2013 by darkbake because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by anonentity
The last time we had a major extinction event was about twelve thousand years ago, when it seems a significant genetic bottleneck occurred. The Human Genome shrunk significantly, about ten thousand years ago The City in the Gulf of Cathay, off of India went under the waves. The Antarctic ice melted and sea levels rose about 2 meters higher than they are today. But on the plus side Someone mapped an ice free Antarctica and Greenland. It struck me that the average Urban human in this so called developed age, wouldn't stand a chance. So if the same scenario develops again what might we be in for?
www.users.on.net...edit on 2-8-2013 by anonentity because: missed dot
Originally posted by Shiloh7
I agree with you and would open it a bit further in that the Indian records which go back thousands of years and are not that widely read show details of planes they reputedly built and flew. They also mention a terrible war, which, if I am right in thinking they were not involved in but either saw the flashes or watched from a distance. (Often the glass in the Sahara is mentioned as a part or place this war occurred.
The fact we have been wiped out to near extinction is something our planet goes through periodically surely because I think we have had three diffferent times when scientists thought life had started. We also have lived in a time of very calm weather, up to a few years ago, but if you look at the past ice record, this planet likes to freeze over and defrost periodically.
I think religious conditioning colours our thinking but until recently scientists of different specialities did not really mix with others so we did not benefit from the geologist mixing with the archaelogist etc but today due to the net and better cooperation we are beginning to get a better picture of the past.
I also wonder if due to a number of things, such as the methane buildup of population and its needs etc coupled with deforestation, etc etc etc a number of things accumulating together, we don't actually when the earth is fully populated simply reach a tipping point when 'no more', means No More. I remember reading that 'the earth shook' that is the description I dread to hear again.
Originally posted by anonentity
reply to post by Harte
I think its accepted that the layer of Tritium, came from meteorite activity. The Great Pyramid has been underwater at some time . Lake Titicaca was a seaport which isn't underwater, but got elevated to 12000 feet. Which only goes to prove that an ancient seaport existed for Trade. All of humankind have tales of flooding which seem to be at the end of the ice age. Seems to me that ancient people had it well organised, then it all went pear shaped.
Plato stated quite clearly what it was like, Science backs him up, But the denial is expected. History wise change is the only sure thing www.theoi.com...
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by Harte
Just stopped by - I'll be able to respond Monday or Tuesday in detail
One addition to Harte fine post
The 'seaport' is actually a river port that leads to the lake. You can look at it on goggle earth if you want.
Congrats on the aluminium find few ever mention it. Two points there are two known places on earth where natural occuring aluminum may be found both are in ......wait for it.................................................................................................................................................... .....................................................China
Link to naturally occuring Aluminium
Please note that this is an initial study and has not - as far as I know been confirmed by another source.
You can also read more about it here
Read the second post
Man there is awhole lot of old debunked fringe in this threadedit on 3/8/13 by Hanslune because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by Harte
Just stopped by - I'll be able to respond Monday or Tuesday in detail
One addition to Harte fine post
The 'seaport' is actually a river port that leads to the lake. You can look at it on goggle earth if you want.
Congrats on the aluminium find few ever mention it. Two points there are two known places on earth where natural occuring aluminum may be found both are in ......wait for it.................................................................................................................................................... .....................................................China
Link to naturally occuring Aluminium
Please note that this is an initial study and has not - as far as I know been confirmed by another source.
You can also read more about it here
Read the second post
Man there is awhole lot of old debunked fringe in this threadedit on 3/8/13 by Hanslune because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by Harte
Just stopped by - I'll be able to respond Monday or Tuesday in detail
One addition to Harte fine post
The 'seaport' is actually a river port that leads to the lake. You can look at it on goggle earth if you want.
Congrats on the aluminium find few ever mention it. Two points there are two known places on earth where natural occuring aluminum may be found both are in ......wait for it.................................................................................................................................................... .....................................................China
Link to naturally occuring Aluminium
Please note that this is an initial study and has not - as far as I know been confirmed by another source.
You can also read more about it here
Read the second post
Man there is awhole lot of old debunked fringe in this threadedit on 3/8/13 by Hanslune because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Harte
Originally posted by anonentity
reply to post by Harte
I think its accepted that the layer of Tritium, came from meteorite activity. The Great Pyramid has been underwater at some time . Lake Titicaca was a seaport which isn't underwater, but got elevated to 12000 feet. Which only goes to prove that an ancient seaport existed for Trade. All of humankind have tales of flooding which seem to be at the end of the ice age. Seems to me that ancient people had it well organised, then it all went pear shaped.
Plato stated quite clearly what it was like, Science backs him up, But the denial is expected. History wise change is the only sure thing www.theoi.com...
None of the above is factual.
Tritium means what? Not a worldwide catastrophe.
No bottleneck 12kya.
The great pyramid was never underwater.
There is no seaport at Titicaca.
"All" of humankind does not have a flood myth, though it's true that floods happen everywhere.
There is no such thing as the Gulf of Cathay. Cathay is an old name for China. You mean the "Gulf of Cambay," actually the Gulf of Khambat, and there's no city there and the only thing dated was a dredged up piece of driftwood.
Antarctic ice hasn't melted in a at least half a million years.
There exist no ancient maps of an "ice free" Antarctica. Greenland was basically ice free when the Vikings got there (during the Medieval Warm Period.) The little ice age, which only ended during the American Civil War, put an end to the ice free status.
Perhaps you could come up with something that actually happened?
Harteedit on 8/3/2013 by Harte because: (no reason given)