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Originally posted by FlyersFan
I never said they aren't entitled to 'fair wages'. In fact ... what I'm arguing IS for fair wages ... and not the unfair INFLATED wages that people here are calling for. Your argument is damn near a pro-theft from those who are successful remark.
Originally posted by Tazkven
it is about us the tax payers having to pay for their food stamps and medicaid because Wal-Mart DOES NOT pay a livable wage.
Paying employees that work in your place of business is not "giving it away."
Wal-Mart's CEO, Mike Duke, received $20 million this past year as he gave himself yet another pay raise, while his distribution workers earned 10% less than the market standard.
The problem is that the definition of “FAIR” is constantly changed; it’s used by a certain group in this country (I won’t name names) to buy votes. We’ve got to understand that they have no intention of helping anyone but themselves!
The "you're uneducated, thus not entitled to fair wages" argument is damn near a pro-slavery remark.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by Tazkven
Oh .. union dude ... that explains it. If the company you work for can afford it and is willing to pay it ... fine. But no one should demand that walmart overpay entry level employees simply because the company is successful.
Originally posted by Garkiniss
Working 37 hours per week, because the company has refused to allow a 40hr week, and having to bring in a roommate to help pay for living expenses is not a fair wage,
Originally posted by FlyersFan
THOSE PEOPLE didn't stay in school or didn't make an effort to learn a trade or because they pumped out 5 babies and didn't know who the daddies were .... etc etc etc.
By you're logic, all entry level unskilled workers should require government assistance to survive, putting triple the amount of people we have now on government assistance thus raising our taxes ... great plan!
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by MystikMushroom
The thing is, some people will never be able to learn/gain high value skills.
Here's the cold hard truth - that's not walmarts problem. They aren't a charity. They are a company. The purpose of a company is to earn money for it's shareholders. That's it. It's not required to overpay entry level employees simply because it's a successful company.
The minimum wage should have reached $21.72 an hour in 2012 if it kept up with increases in worker productivity, according to a March study by the Center for Economic and Policy Research.
Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by Garkiniss
I actually DO live in a community where exactly that occurred- difference being that people of the community had enough of it and fought back! We still have Walmart, but we also have many, many competing businesses that do extremely well now with at least a dozen new retailers opening within just the last year.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
You people are acting like these starting positions are a career or something.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Tazkven
By you're logic, all entry level unskilled workers should require government assistance to survive, putting triple the amount of people we have now on government assistance thus raising our taxes ... great plan!
How about they work as quickly as possible to better themselves and become SKILLED workers.
Is that to much to ask of able-bodied Americans today?
While they're at it, how about they stop demonizing the JOB CREATORS in this country!!
edit on 31-7-2013 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MuzzleBreak
reply to post by Hefficide
A SuperCenter with average of 300 "associates" working 2000 hr/each is 600,000 hr at $4.50/hr over minimum wage is $2.7 million/year. So if by moving the store location by 2-3 miles they would save that much, do I think they would do it?? Yup. I would. Might get better clientele anyway.
Originally posted by Tazkven
Wal-Mart can afford it then why are the tax payers paying to support Wal-Marts entry level employees?
By you're logic, all entry level unskilled workers should require government assistance to survive,
Originally posted by Tazkven
Originally posted by FlyersFan
You people are acting like these starting positions are a career or something.
With all the jobs lost to "outsourcing" due to "free trade" they actually are for some, wake up!!
There isn't a privately owned business on the planet that can compete.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by MuzzleBreak
This is very simple to combat. WalMart doesn't deploy to that area, which forces people to drive out of the city to purchase at Walmart. Plus, it requires those working at Walmart to drive that same distance.
Way to shoot yourself in the foot DC council.
Now, the next step is for them to force Walmart to open there, or remain there.
What a joke this Govt has become.