Custodians of the Plan to Kill all Who Won't Evolve

i note that you are under some hefty attack, probably for posting this in new age forum instead of the religion forum. it seems appropriate for the subject -- new age religions, like theosophy and their connection to the new world order. it might actually be better served in the religion forum, since it's information heavily related to different kinds of religion.

i did research on theosophy, years ago. read blavatsky's info, like the secret doctrine. so i know what you're referring to, and i've done some reading on maitreya as well. maitreya would have to satisfy the muslim's muad'dib criteria in order to be the false world religious leader, and i don't think he would. in fact, i think people consistently miss the trees for the woods on this topic.

look at daniel chapter 1. the statue is ALL the empires in world history, till the end. that means the final one, the miry clay and iron toes of the statue, is on repeat. its the same empire, repeating over and over again. the iron is the pagan roman empire. the miry clay mixed was when they highjacked christianity and became the holy roman empire. they still rule the world. (so in revelation when it starts talking about the 7 kings, it's talking about empires, 4 of which had passed at that point, 1 that was current during the revelation, with 3 more to go. so the holy roman empire is on repeat. was, is not, yet is. how's that possible ? by pretending they are not in power and then running things from behind the scenes. they run islam, catholicism and even some branches of judaism. they influence european paganism and have their foot in buddhism, and hinduism as well.

it's obvious when you realize who the key players are, and how they aren't individual people but entire groups and empires.

Originally posted by Wyrdnews
Not all people Christians accuse of being 'New Agers' are for the current trends and changes either though. There are plenty of pagans for instance that reject the 'new age' crap and would sooner support Christian ideals rather than the liberal loony new-age brigade.

Trouble is, the Christians are xenophobic about anything which goes against their book, and they've made a rod for their own back by being so arrogant about being the 'one true path to salvation'.

No, Jesus Christ who said it is the one whom you feel is arrogant. That is truth. And in fact, you merely transfer that feeling onto those who preach the same message.

Originally posted by Garkiniss

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

If Bonobos are more evolved then why are there still chimps? There must be millions of years between the large chimp brain and the small bonobo brain. If there are big brained chimps, there must be big brained humans still alive as compared to todays brain size, since according to evolution, humans came from the monkeys, and both of the monkey brain size examples are still here today. So where are the big brained dumb human examples?

This is f'n comical.

Humans didn't come from apes (I don't think you meant to say "monkey"), however, we do share a common ancestor.

To your question; who is to say that larger brained humans don't still exist? I never said they didn't. I merely pointed out the trend that the human brain is shrinking as we evolve. It's the same as not everyone having wisdom teeth these days. Thirty-six percent of the population still grow wisdom teeth, while the rest of the population does not. Does this mean that those who don't grow wisdom teeth are more evolved? Yes, actually it does. Does it mean they're better? No.
It still doesn't negate the fact that evolution is happening within homo sapiens.

Again that is not evolution, losing a tooth is just a trait turning off in the dna. Nothing is evolving.

i think this guy is on the right track, although i have a few qualms about his view that it is luciferianism. i don't think it means what he think it means. in fact, i don't think it means what most luciferians think it means. that's a different topic. but observe that he believes that luciferian religions offer a religion for the goyim (talmudic word for non-jews), the gentiles (torah word for non-jews, book of mormon word for non-mormons), kaffir (muslim word for non-muslims). in other words, we aren't being made privy to the original teachings. they have been covered up or modified in such a way that we only get the pablum instead of the meat. they hide the meat from the non-believer, who is considered a non-believer because he's not allowed to know. lol it's a vicious circle. how you get past that outer barrier is the real trick.

anyway, here's a video series on the topic of how the goyim / kaffirs / gentiles are deliberately kept in the dark.
note that i think he's partially wrong but he brings up some interesting information



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i don't think this guy knows what "satanic" is. i did a huge study on the topic, and boy oh boy, let me tell ya, people would be shocked.

Originally posted by Druscilla

Why wouldn't anyone want to evolve?

The definition of 'evolve' is very simply the same as the definition for 'adapt'.

Those who are incapable of adapting, historically die, without any help or need for anyone to go stomping about with an evil plan to eliminate them.
Those who don't adapt pretty much basically kill their own selves off. It's suicide by natural selection.

If the water gets too high, and you don't adapt to swim, well, it's not the water's fault. The water has no evil sinister plan. If you don't swim, you die. You fail to adapt. It's essentially suicide.

Those who don't 'evolve' kill their own selves off without any help from anyone else.

Barbara Marx Hubbard is not talking about adaptational failure in the natural world. She is talking about murdering all who would oppose Marxist State control.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity

Originally posted by tadaman
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity

 

there is no room for growth beyond the primordial us if to do so we must plunge ourselves deep into the animal within us while never accepting him.

forward progress is only relatively so compared to where you stand. In truth progress along a linear concept of ascension "from" our current state to a "higher" plain or level of existence as preached by new agers is essentially flawed.

How are we to go beyond ourselves if we don't even understand ourselves now? How are we to be born anew if we must succumb to all that has held us back in the past and never surrender to anything in the process?

So, what am I to infer from your comments regarding the typical New Age Religion beliefs which I referenced about killing off all of us who won't evolve? Your ideas are worth discussing, but that is not what this thread is about. I feel like 99% of the comments have nothing to do with this OP.

How do these who support world socialism and an idea of unity in evolving spirituality under their tutelage who openly worship Lucifer in their writings and are embraced by the NWO system (United Nations) which has embraced Theosophy and has an office / department with the Lucifer Trust which was created by Blavatsky's group get away with this idea of killing off all unbending Christians, Muslims, and Jews? They damn the Christian history of abuse rightly so, and yet think they can get away with the idea of killing off those who don't follow their path?

The hypocrisy is astounding.

edit on 30-7-2013 by UnifiedSerenity because: spelling issue and flow

Your hate for what you do not understand is easy to see and you are threatened by the change that is coming and are very dualistic in your views that everything that is not Christian is anti Christian and therefor want to paint the new age as against you. The core of new age teaches non duality that both Buddha, Krishna and Jesus taught so it is not new. Where every soul is seen as a part of yourself.

The best way to deal with the people who call themselves "Christians" is to totally ignore them if they are looked in one view state since there is no reasoning with them since the mind is to set in it's ways to see it from other perspective. Be a soul brother and soul sister to the ones you can and ignore the ones who are not ready.

reply to post by AthiestJesus

I always wondered why christians join the army/military ..... killing anyone is unforgivable in their lord's eyes - a one way ticket to hell .

No it isn't unforgiveable. In defense of your family, friends and lives of others it is permitted. There's only one unforgiveable sin, and enlisting in the military to defend others, isn't it. Neither is it a one way ticket to hell. The only unforgiveable sin is to scoff and make fun of, insult or belittle the Holy Spirit...shorted to the word blasphemy which comes from the greek blasphemo which means to "scoff" or "make fun of". Cowards do not go to heaven (Rev 21:8).

Originally posted by LittleByLittle

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity

Originally posted by tadaman
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity

 

there is no room for growth beyond the primordial us if to do so we must plunge ourselves deep into the animal within us while never accepting him.

forward progress is only relatively so compared to where you stand. In truth progress along a linear concept of ascension "from" our current state to a "higher" plain or level of existence as preached by new agers is essentially flawed.

How are we to go beyond ourselves if we don't even understand ourselves now? How are we to be born anew if we must succumb to all that has held us back in the past and never surrender to anything in the process?

So, what am I to infer from your comments regarding the typical New Age Religion beliefs which I referenced about killing off all of us who won't evolve? Your ideas are worth discussing, but that is not what this thread is about. I feel like 99% of the comments have nothing to do with this OP.

How do these who support world socialism and an idea of unity in evolving spirituality under their tutelage who openly worship Lucifer in their writings and are embraced by the NWO system (United Nations) which has embraced Theosophy and has an office / department with the Lucifer Trust which was created by Blavatsky's group get away with this idea of killing off all unbending Christians, Muslims, and Jews? They damn the Christian history of abuse rightly so, and yet think they can get away with the idea of killing off those who don't follow their path?

The hypocrisy is astounding.

edit on 30-7-2013 by UnifiedSerenity because: spelling issue and flow

Your hate for what you do not understand is easy to see and you are threatened by the change that is coming and are very dualistic in your views that everything that is not Christian is anti Christian and therefor want to paint the new age as against you. The core of new age teaches non duality that both Buddha, Krishna and Jesus taught so it is not new. Where every soul is seen as a part of yourself.

The best way to deal with the people who call themselves "Christians" is to totally ignore them if they are looked in one view state since there is no reasoning with them since the mind is to set in it's ways to see it from other perspective. Be a soul brother and soul sister to the ones you can and ignore the ones who are not ready.

And this relates to my OP how? Again, more Christian bashing and assumptions which you are entitled to, but have no relevance to my thread about the history of those leading world leaders, and seeking to destroy societal foundations. Whether other religions teach similar things to Christianity is not part of this topic. Again, more distractions.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Again that is not evolution, losing a tooth is just a trait turning off in the dna. Nothing is evolving.

Again, yes it is. You get an "E" for effort, but you're just not grasping the concept. You have in your mind this image of a dinosaur giving birth to a chicken, but evolution just doesn't work like that.

Originally posted by Garkiniss

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Again that is not evolution, losing a tooth is just a trait turning off in the dna. Nothing is evolving.

Again, yes it is. You get an "E" for effort, but you're just not grasping the concept. You have in your mind this image of a dinosaur giving birth to a chicken, but evolution just doesn't work like that.

If a trait turns off, it's evolution? The trait is still there (and the potential tooth) just not activated, nothing new has happened. I fail to see evolution. Your saying yes it is does not qualify.

Anyhow we have established that you firmly believe in the magic fairy dust of evolution, so do you also believe the title of this thread, that those that don't evolve need to be introduced to genocide?

Originally posted by AthiestJesus
Seriously ....... why are christians worldwide playing the victim all of a sudden ?

All the wars / massacres / murders in the name of their god , but no one can talk about it incase it offends them ?

I always wondered why christians join the army/military ..... killing anyone is unforgivable in their lord's eyes - a one way ticket to hell .

EDIT - you say you have a logical mind ? ........... but ..... you're a christian

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I am christian i didn't join the military.. there are athiests in the military... Murdering anyone is unforgivable and it talks about war as well but you can do that leg work. I am willing to be you have no clue why murder is unforgivable in christianity.

You really believe those wars were over god?? really?? how naive are you... war only occurs when there is a buck to be made and someone to be exploited....

the crusades were not about god they were about having too many bored soldiers and plunder to be taken in foreign lands... and there is much to be said about the roman catholic church at that time.. huge farce.

you just like to grind your axe against religion because that is what you do.

and didn't the soviet union.. an athiest state kill about just as many people in quite a brutal manner??

doesn't that just prove that belief or disbelief in religion/god is not exclusive to waging war and killing.

you slam people for not being logical but you are not very logical yourself.


as for the OP..

It's funny how what was written in the Bible for some reason will happen. Man continues to pursue the lie thta they can be as gods. Christians do not believe that so they are not very compatible with that view so they either need to change or be snuffed out..

I wouldn't worry to much about it, if we die we die.. everyone dies... but unlike the people you quoted.... I am not going to go kill other people because they don't think as I think.

I can't recall the last time I was told to go kill unbelievers at church.. nor have i read that in the new testament. so go figure..

these people on the other hand lay it out in writing that christians need to die.

very telling.

We have come to a time, again, when the "chosen" rulers and their 'co-creator" puppets like Hubbard, and Obama, and Hillary can again proclaim that those who refuse to accept their 'benevolent dictatorship" are failures to evolve and need to be eliminated. It's happened before, in the French Terror, the Armenian genocide, Mao's China, and in the aftermath of the Bolshevik Revolution. Millions of Christians were murdered. Hillary and Obama's friend Ayers has said the exact same thing.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


[color=6699FF]absolutely indeed.

Well put.

LONG OVERDUE.

The GREAT DECEPTION spoken of in the New Testament is descending in greater and greater comprehensiveness and greater and greater rigidity, narrowness, ruthlessness and tyranny.

Those who have spent soooooo much energy, choices and actions rebelling against CREATOR GOD will for a brief time feel exhilarated and thrilled to be "on the winning side" and "free from the 'confining' constraints of those 'archaic, silly Christians.'

However, their thrill will be short lived. Their new master will quickly rise more overtly in blacker and blacker shades to the position he has long sought--!DEMANDING! TO BE WORSHIPED as God--and he will demand UTTER ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE of a tyrannically !DEMANDED! sort.

THEN they will begin to realize that they 'bet on the wrong god.'

Too late.

Now is the day of Salvation through the one who died for all out of Love.

In addition to that arrogant rebellious millennia long goal of his--to be worshiped as God,

his other main goal is to trash, abuse, torture, maim, kill as many of God's favorite creatures--humans--and take them with him to his eternal humorless, black abode--as he can get away with. It's his only vain pathetic effort to throw sand in God's eyes for getting kicked out of Heaven for trying to usurp God's place at that point in ancient history.

Those dancing around his phallic maypole will far too soon discover that the rather short-lived cheap thrills carry a very heavy penalty that's not remotely orgasmic.

However, I'm sure many will become orgasmic at the mere thought of trashing, destroying and genocidally murdering masses of Christians. Regardless of whether pseudo, pathetic examples of "Christians" abused them as parents or other care givers . . . or whether they merely woke up on a Monday morning and decided they wanted to do their own thing and any other handy thing they could get away with doing and hang the consequences . . . they made their choice. And, they've grown in their hatred, hostility, disgust and general aversion to Christians real and imagined; authentic and pretend.

They have latched onto whatever New Age or ancient Babylonian distortion of reality that could in the least way flatter their pride; excuse their excesses and give vent to their rages and hormones. They construed such as freedom.

They failed to realize the shrinking straight-jacket of the slavery of addictions of every sort . . . still claiming that their compulsive behaviors were chosen recreational sinning.

Welllll, The Bible acknowledges that sin does entail pleasure . . . . for a moment.

But the fiddler must always be paid. And he will be.
The cows come home.
The chickens come home to roost.

One doesn't plant cacti and harvest chocolate bonbons.

Yes, God will honor many authentic Christians with martyrdom resulting in their far greater exaltation and supernatural empowering and rulership over the endless ages of eternity. The Word teaches us that some faithful servants will get cities; some several cities . . . presumably some will get worlds or perhaps even galaxies or galactic clusters to rule over with and under the Lordship of Jesus The Christ and Father Almighty God.

And those who thought they could celebrate over the genocidal destruction of Christians such that they will exchange gifts in celebration of such deaths . . . will discover . . . that they celebrated far too soon. It may well be the last celebrating they ever do for all eternity.

Hopefully, by your OP, Dear Heart, some may give pause and consider the road they are racing down toward hell. While there's life, there's hope.

Some can still turn around if they ask God for help and His Spirit's power to do so. They can ask God to make Himself real to them in terms they can wrap their understanding and motivation around. He tends to be rather faithful to respond to earnest prayers like that.

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reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


If you truly believe in god, his glory and greatness. His mysterious way of teaching you lessons in life, his constant presence and mercy. His divine plan for all, then you must simply let this play out. God teaches you it is not your place to get involved, or prevent the inevitable. If Christianity is coming to a close, then you have to hug your children tell them sweet stories and ride it out. There is a funny thing with cancer, cancer inevitably destroys itself along with the host. If Christianity is cancerous, it will prove itself as such by destroying that which supports it.

I personally have seen more harm than good from the christian communities world wide, but then again I try to avoid it and only ever hear of the negative things. Wars, crusades etc, but everyone wants to talk about the negatives.

I have no problem who practices what as long as no one comes preaching to me about their religious beliefs. You're entitled to your own.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Anyhow we have established that you firmly believe in the magic fairy dust of evolution, so do you also believe the title of this thread, that those that don't evolve need to be introduced to genocide?

It's funny that you equate evolution to "fairy dust", while arguing the validity of a omnipotent being ejaculating the universe into existence. And which omnipotent being is responsible for all of this, since the god of Abraham (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) admits that he is not the only god?

That aside, and more in line to the question this thread proposed;

No. I don't believe people should be murdered to make way for evolution. The beautiful thing about evolution is that nature will eventually rid itself of the "unadaptable" all on its own. Fortunately for mankind, and one of our greatest traits as a species is our ability to evolve our way of thinking. It happens all the time. Christianity itself is an evolved version of older Abrahamism and pagan mythologies, turning off certain ideologies while adding knew ones to the fold.
The problem with Christianity, as with most religions, is that it's stopped adapting. The new pope is making strides to keep the church from growing completely stagnant, but it's likely too little/too late.

Christianity will not survive much longer, and this demise has nothing to do with New Age philosophies; it's doing a fair job of condemning its own faith.

I do find it interesting that Christians would fear genocide after spending countless centuries butchering non-believers.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity

Originally posted by Druscilla

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity

Excuse me, but can you please provide my quote where I threatened anyone with hell? I do not believe you can. Please stop putting other people's words or ideas into my mouth. I don't believe in the Rapture, babbling tongues, judging others to hell, or treating people unkindly. I believe in Yeshua words that by the love we show one to another people will know we are his followers.

Oh, well, it's nice to know what you don't believe in.

You want to know what a LOT of us DON'T believe in? YOUR MYTHOLOGY.

Quit trying to shove it in everyone's face. Keep in in your pants and mess around with it all you want when you get home.
Pretty much everyone on the planet has already heard "The Good News" already a dozen times over. We're sick of hearing it.
We're not changing our minds.

You don't hear the Hindus or the Buddhists running around trying to turn people into Hindus or Buddhists.
Take a hint.

edit on 30-7-2013 by Druscilla because: (no reason given)

I replied to your statements. This is a forum the last time I looked where we can discuss many topics. Why do the Christian haters have to come onto threads made by obvious Christians about issues affecting us and then accuse us of shoving stuff down your throats? You came onto this thread to share you views. I started the thread and responded to what I felt were obvious fallacies in your viewpoint. If you don't want to hear it, then I suggest you stop tuning into it.

This is ATS, not a religious circle. We are allowed to disagree with your beliefs, and state them as such with in these forums. Even if your thread was intended to support those thoughts, you are met with both like minds, and those who disagree. Unfortunately for you, there are more who disagree here these days then will support you.

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I do find it interesting that Christians would fear genocide after spending countless centuries butchering non-believers.

What is that ? It's like some lil kids toy you won't let go of..
A whole different conglamoration of people from a different time,
different place, different everything !
And you insist on driving the point home. And everytime it's like
you're making a brand new announcement. Unbelievably weak
and pathetic. I'm Christian right now, how many people have I
slaughtered as non believers ? It's hate like yours that rings loud
and clear. I'm not afraid of genocide in the first place. Death is
the last thing that I'm worried about. It's how I get there that may
suck really bad. But guess what stud ? Someday we all solve
the great mystery. One way or another.

Christianity will not survive much longer,

Do you have any idea how long and how many people have said that ?

When exactly was it that Protestant Christians as a group went on the war-path?? I'm thinking that other than the rare witch-hunt craziness of a few isolated communities in New England 400 years ago--there are essentially none.

Now if you want to talk about people being killed because they were Christians---that would be millions.

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And didn't the days of metal call for everyone to be brutal in the first place ?

Talk about hang'in a jacket on someone. MY GAWD !