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Originally posted by logical7
Its interesting how you paint Pharaoh as an innocent/victimised ruler. Could it be because you are fine with any present pharaohic government?!
Obviously the israelites wrote the accounts in OT to glorify themselves and they were not the most God conscious bunch.
Some christians are ready to lick the feet of the "choosen people"!
Originally posted by logical7
God hardening Pharaoh's heart just means that God knew that he won't listen ..
Originally posted by borntowatch
Wow op, lots of assumptions and assumptions, selling something?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by borntowatch
Wow op, lots of assumptions and assumptions, selling something?
Coming from you ... that's a joke. talk about selling absurdities ... and assumptions Your wild self interpretations of scripture .. starting here You might want to check yourself out first before you throw around the accusation of 'trying to sell something' .
And no ... the opening post is direct quotes from scripture as well as links to modern day historians and archaeologists who have proof that the Israelites were not slaves in Egypt. And many of these people are actually Jewish who are saying this.
2 - No I did not paint him as an innocent/victimized ruler. You are absurd. I simply stated that the Pharaoh would have had to send the police after people who mass looted. That in no way is a comment on his rule or anything else.
3 - My premise is that the Jews were low paid/low rent workers who went on strike and left Egypt, stealing and looting as they left and that the Exodus was written by people sympathetic to the Jews. How on Earth you can have any snotty issues with that is really, really bizzare, even for you
Originally posted by logical7
Its very simple, when history is written by people who were involved in the events, they magically appear saintly in the accounts!
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
So one it could be said that the Pharaoh had hardened his own heart first.
Originally posted by logical7
How could pharaoh kill their male babies if they were just low paid workers?
I am just wondering why you are doing what egyptians may have done?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
So ... WHAT IS THE POINT? God is fighting with Himself?? One part of God is sending signs and wonders and saying 'let the Israelites go' ... and another part of God is hardening Pharaoh's heart so it won't listen to what the other part of God is saying?? All the Egyptians will suffer horribly because God sends warnings but also 'hardens Pharaoh's heart' ... so the Egyptians have no mercy and no hope of escaping the evils that are about to fall on them .. no chance to change or accept the warnings because God hardens hearts?? Really??
Originally posted by Prezbo369
Originally posted by logical7
Its very simple, when history is written by people who were involved in the events, they magically appear saintly in the accounts!
Lol right, unless said history is written in your particular holy books right?
There is no evidence that ever actually happened. There are no historical accounts ... no forensic evidences .. nothing. Only the story of it happening which was written by pro-jewish sources in Exodus.