Scientists can implant false memories into mice.

False memories have been implanted into mice, scientists say.

A team was able to make the mice wrongly associate a benign environment with a previous unpleasant experience from different surroundings.

The researchers conditioned a network of neurons to respond to light, making the mice recall the unpleasant environment.

Reporting in Science, they say it could one day shed light into how false memories occur in humans.

The brains of genetically engineered mice were implanted with optic fibres in order to deliver pulses of light to their brain. Known as optogenetics, this technique is able to make individual neurons respond to light.

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Now then the real world applications for this is staggering, wonderful and equally scary. One day this may help cure post traumatic stress disorder and also schizophrenia but (tin foil hat on) can it be used for evil? could this be used to change peoples memories to say testify in court against someone? could this be used on a mass scale on day to change what really happens in history?.
It reminds me of total recall could we implant memories of good things like a holiday but never actually going in person?
Fascinating but scary stuff folks.

Lets not make it sound like they did something new and amazing.
Its called a learned responce . If you teach a monkey to turn on a light for food he will do it even if he recives no food in a totaly new place.
They had the mice in a well lite envierment and then had him being arfaid or what ever so even though they changed the cage slightly leaving it well lite was enough to cause the same fear.
Kinda like the ghost storys we told late at night.
If a friend tells a ghost story almost every time you see them even if they dont tell one that night you will antisapate it and get goosbumps .

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Combine this with the news that Google wants to make an implantable brain chip, and it equals scary. I can see some good benefits too, but with the state of the world, this is mostly gives me the creeps.

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Just wait until they monetize this.

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That was my first thought as well.

Originally posted by midnightstar
Lets not make it sound like they did something new and amazing.
Its called a learned responce . If you teach a monkey to turn on a light for food he will do it even if he recives no food in a totaly new place.

You can thank Pavlov for that groundbreaking work...

When I saw this article, I really expected someone to bring up the whole mind controlled slave thing, blah blah.... People who don't work in neuroscience don't understand how complex these things are.... There is so much about the brain that we are just now learning and so much more that we still don't understand. This article illustrates that scientists were able to implant a very simple "memory." Scientists can also "erase" memories in mice. But it is another thing altogether to think that scientists can erase a complex series of memories and replace them with a different complex series of memories in HUMANS....Let alone do this procedure, unbeknownst to the mass public, to millions of people.

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I just duplicated your thread sry snf

Is that movie Total Recall gonna be possible one day?

The people that are alive in 1000 years (assuming we don't destroy ourselves) are gonna have a lot of cool stuff to play with

Hmmm
an altered and sinister version to the movie 'Minority Report" potential.
Where in the case of people like Logner and the Arrora shooter,.
someone could have a memory implanted they killed someone, or simply
remember seeing something for evidence to frame somebody to cover
someone elses tracks,..

Of what real benefit is this kind of research.. I can only see trouble in the wrong
hands.

False memories are nothing new, just the way that they're implanted is changed. A very large number of people have used false memories already for "evil". Just look at all the people coming forward after therapy saying their father did things to them, or some authority figure did that were later proven to be false memories.

Memory researcher Elizabeth Loftus has demonstrated through her research that it is possible to induce false memories through suggestion. She has also shown that these memories can become stronger and more vivid as time goes on. Over time, memories become distorted and begin to change. In some case, the original memory may be changed in order to incorporate new information or experiences.

psychology.about.com...

This could be a great step forward though for PTSD sufferers.

This is scary. I would venture to say this is already being done to us.

Wow. Time to really asses what we think of radio frequency, HAARP, and especially television and movies.

Fawk. Time to move to the mountains.

I was going to post a thread about this because this article is going a little further than just mice, but to primates as well. They can send them to sleep at the flick of a switch effectively switching off a human like a hypnotist does.

The modification of the brain cells are done through introducing a virus which modifies the neurons in the brain to create these light sensitive chemicals on the outside of the neuron. Ok, so you still need to have a light switch inserted into your brain, but we already know some beings are doing abductions and implanting us with things, so whats new about this - except that it is not under the skin but in the brain instead. I can see uses for this in the sex industry as 'orgasmatrons'. If the mice become 'light junkies', pleasure as a result of ever more and more light, then it is a small step fo target different cells in the brain to produce sexual pleasure triggered by receiving light too.

Scientists use light to control brain with flick of a switch

Dr Boyden and his colleagues have also developed a wireless implant that uses thousands of tiny optical fibres to deliver light to the parts of the brain where it is inserted. This means they can switch brain cells on or off in any sequence they desire.
Working with scientists from around the world, Dr Boyden has have been able to send mice and primates to sleep using beams of light with this technology.
In newly published research they have also turned mice into "light addicts" by putting the algae molecules into cells found at the part of the rodents' brain that deals with reward and pleasure.
It meant that a mouse would return to a light switch over and over again to get a dose of light, which would turn on the cells in its brain to give a pleasurable sensation.
Such technology, if it is ever used in humans, would give doctors the potential to control people's behaviour. Using molecules that turn off brain cells when exposed to light, it may be possible to help people who are suffering from addiction.

This is so strange that they are coming out and admitting these findings that they have been trying to develop for some time. they are desperately trying to unlock the controls of the mind and this just confirms it... but if they had not become devoted to mind control, they would just be annihilating dissent the old fashioned way. With even more bloodshed than what you see today. This, they think, makes the job more easy... but this has actually allowed them to get lazy and like having desk jobs too much... throwing their money into the bottomless pit of having ultimate control. It's scary, but even the scary part has it's up side.

the tech itself, i firmly believe is of an otherworldly idea. i have spoke about my experiences before and have said numerous times that i was given a memory at a very early age which i do not believe came from this life time. i was "GIVEN" the memory... i did not simply recall. This was the importance of my meetings at such an early age. this tech can serve a dual purpose. It can be used to misguide... obviously, but it can also be used to restore lost memories. Within the memories themselves can be tell tale signs that it is authentic and not a false memory... and this can get very complicated, but never impossible.

If we ever get to the point where we can identify an individual from life time to life time by finding a way to identify the energy signature of the soul... which i believe ETs are capable of... then if that person so chooses, they can re-explore their past life memories as they mature... remembering loved one from times past and remembering who they were and their path as a spirit...and that they have done many things and been many places on this earth. deep down inside we long to know more about who we are for we are lost.

To create such a data base would be a divine data base... and these things will manifest among the people if the planet survives long enough. There is a God, but the missions of the divine are long and grueling and Christ is a testament to this. there is no man with a beard that is going to simply appear before us waving a magic wand and make all these things reality and overcome death all at once, because that would be too easy and if it were that easy, he already would have done it long ago. We must earn it as a race by allowing God knowledge to help us build it.

And like anything... it can be used for good or evil.
this is why it is so important to ground ones self in what is right and to have the quest for truth in their hearts to see the difference. that
s the first and most important step in anything... intent of the heart, to see the truth and teach the truth.

This is also why no christian can justify perpetrating a so called holy war.
it makes no sense as it is built on a foundation of evil. It's wrong right out of the gate.

thins we thought were only sci fi are becoming reality right before our eyes.