Pig brain cells injected into brain to treat Parkinson's...

Following on from my thread about head transplants for which i would like to thank a certain number of members for having activly participated I thought i would bring your attention to this little gem :

Pig brain cells to treat Parkinson's

The world first trial on four New Zealanders with Parkinson's disease will take brain cells from the Auckland Island species of pig and inject them into the human brains.

Neurologist Dr Barry Snow says animal studies have shown the "remarkable regrowth" of damaged cells.

Full article here : www.dailytelegraph.com.au...

I guess that there are is going to be a fairly conflictual debate again here taking into consideration ethics and religious beliefs!

And just to add extra food for thought :

A University of Illinois side-by-side comparison of the human and pig genomes has revealed remarkable similarities.

“We took the human genome, cut it into 173 puzzle pieces and rearranged it to make a pig,” explains animal geneticist Lawrence Schook. “Everything matches up perfectly. The pig is genetically very close to humans.”

When looking at a pig or a human, the difference is seen instantly. “But, in the biological sense, animals aren’t that much different from one another – at least not as different as they appear,” he says.

Link here : nationalhogfarmer.com...

What fo you fine folk think?

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Rodinus

Incredible stuff this. I truly hope our fine little friends the pigs are going to help those who so badly need the help.

I’m not sure why this should spark an outrage - it’s not like we don’t use animal products in nearly every other part of our lives - but that’s just my opinion. Let the outrage begin.

Really great looking well put together thread. Grats on that!

peace

Don't we have enough pig headed people in this world already

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Thanks Silo,

People would be amazed if they only knew how much pigs have contributed in-vivo to major scientific breakthrough in the past and present.

The very first artificial hearts, the first implantation studies for heart, lung, kindeys etc not to mention the thousands of other medical applications...

This dates back to last year but is quite interesting :

Pig geneticists go the whole hog...

Link here : www.nature.com...

And sadly military scientific work too such as ballistics testing and battlefield wound dressing applications... and i won't go into details of biological and chemical warfare...

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Rodinus

Originally posted by rickymouse
Don't we have enough pig headed people in this world already

Nice one Ricky

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Rodinus

"not suitable for vegetarians"

Would a vegetarian consider saving their own life if they had to break their own rule?

Great leap forward and if this works, i could see pig brain injections playing a big part in extending life for everyone by reversing general cell degeneration.

Would a vegetarian consider saving their own life if they had to break their own rule?

Or saving the life of one of their loved ones?

Would be nice to hear from vegetarian members here?

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Rodinus

The lack of massive difference in the genetic makeup shows the importance of specialization and adaptation to the environment, or what we might call Evolution.

I would suggest that's a pretty good sized nail for the creationist lobby.

Originally posted by Rob37n
The lack of massive difference in the genetic makeup shows the importance of specialization and adaptation to the environment, or what we might call Evolution.

I would suggest that's a pretty good sized nail for the creationist lobby.

Aye lad, tis indeed!

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Rodinus

We may have the brain of a pig but we have the brain wiring of a bird. www.sciencedaily.com... This sounds interesting because the way humans like colors in clothing and makeup, I would hypothesize that we would be more related to birds. Maybe both Humans and pigs evolved from a dinosaur originally Well, the article I posted shows that when someone calls you a bird brain or chicken it is not really an insult

Originally posted by rickymouse
We may have the brain of a pig but we have the brain wiring of a bird. www.sciencedaily.com... This sounds interesting because the way humans like colors in clothing and makeup, I would hypothesize that we would be more related to birds. Maybe both Humans and pigs evolved from a dinosaur originally Well, the article I posted shows that when someone calls you a bird brain or chicken it is not really an insult

A little scary in a way as in the long run both species may also become the death of us!

Potential Flu Pandemic Lurks: Influenza Viruses Circulating in Pigs, Birds Could Pose Risk to Humans

May 10, 2013 — In the summer of 1968, a new strain of influenza appeared in Hong Kong. This strain, known as H3N2, spread around the globe and eventually killed an estimated 1 million people.

Link here : www.sciencedaily.com...

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Rodinus

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A million people sounds like a lot of people but it is not. There are a thousand millions to a billion. Seven billion people on the earth. That means that one in seven thousand people died from that flu. This number is small, immaterial in reality. All these seven billion people will eventually die. The percentage of people who die from Cancer is higher than one in seven thousand. The people who die from medicines or medical mistakes is'nt even close to one in seven thousand. You have a better chance of choking on food and dying than dying from the flu.

Originally posted by rickymouse
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A million people sounds like a lot of people but it is not. There are a thousand millions to a billion. Seven billion people on the earth. That means that one in seven thousand people died from that flu. This number is small, immaterial in reality. All these seven billion people will eventually die. The percentage of people who die from Cancer is higher than one in seven thousand. The people who die from medicines or medical mistakes is'nt even close to one in seven thousand. You have a better chance of choking on food and dying than dying from the flu.

That was back in 1968 by the way

However, when you look at countries like China where there have been a few spates of outbreaks of H7N9?

H7N9 bird flu found to spread through the air..
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Virus can also infect pigs, say HKU researchers, who warn officials to maintain tight scrutiny even though threat seems under control.

Link : www.scmp.com...

One bit of good news is that H7N9 does not appear to spread between pigs. In the study, pigs did not catch H7N9 from each other, either through the air or direct contact.

Transmission between pigs would be concerning because it would provide more opportunities for the H7N9 virus to evolve and transmit to people that way too

Full article here : www.livescience.com...

I believe that this kind of ailment is actually hanging off the ends of our noses and that a mutation is not that far away!

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Rodinus

I don't understand why the medical community doesn't pick up on the fact that simple Gutathione injections cure Parkinson's. Why aren't the studies focused on this simple procedure?

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Probably because Glutathione does not actually cure Parkinsons but alleviates or improves some of the symptoms :

Dr. David Perlmutter, a board certified neurologist from Naples, Florida, started using intravenous glutathione in 1998 for his Parkinson's patients after he did extensive research on Parkinson’s disease and effects of supplemental glutathione on improving the symptoms of Parkinson’s disease. He is the pioneer in using intravenous glutathione in the treatment of Parkinson’s disease. His research opened new doors in the treatment of Parkinson’s disease and other neurodegenerative diseases. Dr. Perlmutter has successfully used intravenous glutathione in patients with significant improvement in the symptoms.

Although glutathione treatment cannot prevent the occurrence of symptoms, it significantly slows down the occurrence of symptoms with improvement in the existing symptoms.

Full link here with quite a few peer reviewed articles at the end.

The reason they are using pig cells is because they think that this will cure... (it has worked in-vivo and now the next step is a human trial.)

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Rodinus

reply to post by Rodinus
Thanks for the links Rodinus! I am sending them to Mom as my step-dad suffers from Parkinson's Disease and she tries to keep up with the newest studies and trials in hopes of there being a cure found in the near future!

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Rodinus why do I sense this is yet another thread trying to get me to stop eating Bacon?

Bacon tastes good!

S&F because this is interesting however...

Originally posted by Julie Washington
I don't understand why the medical community doesn't pick up on the fact that simple Gutathione injections cure Parkinson's. Why aren't the studies focused on this simple procedure?

In todays socity, people are not happy if they can not complicate things ten fold.
I go to Occams Razor.
The simplest answer is the correct one.
This comes from a simple minded person.
Refer to the above...........

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Animal Pharming: The Industrialization of Transgenic Animals
This horrible trend has continued, these studies are being done in NZ as they use an "in house" Auckland university unethical board to approve them IE no need for consideration for the animals they harm or the humans .
Lots of corporations have chosen NZ for studies for the reason of their corruption and non compliance with ethical considerations.
So much money has been spent on this idea that even the companies manufactured poor/negative results results from the initial animal studies will not stop them. The practice harms and kills thousand of animals.
These people doing the studies cannot even tell you what the cause of which parkinsons is the effect .
Think about it even from a layman's view :If they don't know the cause of course the effect is not a shortage of pig cells in your brain.
Transmodulation is also trendy in neuroboffin land, but in this the patient gets an electrical current to the brain no animals are harmed.

I think a meatless wheatless (gluten free) diet is a better treatment for parkinsons, and a bunch of other brain and mental problems. Or at least reduce consumption. See people eat the meat, it goes into their gut, it misfires their nervous system, so what do the scientists do, put in the brain of the meat the people eat to make the nervous system respond concurrently with the rest of their body's misalignment in the diet.

It's like the antipsychotic med injections that are made of petroleum products to interfere with chromosomes that appear as the mental disorder that possibly came from overexposure to petroleum products that interfere with chromosomes. Where the antidote is likely to come from the same source as the problem.

The disease is engineered in the food, the treatment is engineered in the hospitals. Both sides don't want the consumer to know about prevention.

Here comes the problem: you don't want a cannibal. You put pig product into human, then send them home to eat bacon, that's likely to create more bad neurological side effects, as much as humans get kuru when they go cannibal.

And suddenly there might be a logic behind no pork for certain religions...