Breaking News! George Zimmerman found not guilty.

reply to post by litterbaux


I just hope the good people of Florida remember that no cities were burned down when O.J.Simpson was found innocent even though we know he committed a double homicide.

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You're right, we were better than that.

Since the advent of the technology that allowed the instantaneous conveyance of information, humans have been susceptible to emotional terrorism and group think like no time before in the history of mankind. The same technology that has liberated us has imprisoned a great portion of our society and chained them to their base emotions allowing them to be blown in whichever direction is chosen.

Thoughts become actions and far too many people are starting to allow others the power of choosing their thoughts for them.

I fear it's a downward trajectory that will be too difficult to turn around...but that's just the way I see it.

I have no opinion on the case. I live three thousand miles away and was not present the night in question. I put my faith in the jury and the legal system we have in place. Two cases were presented and the six women decided. Justice.

Originally posted by VoidRonin
I honestly can't believe some of the posts I've been reading.

How can you cheer on Zimmerman after he killed a 17 year old kid?

Trayvon had no weapon, and posed no threat to Zimmerman, so he was not defending himself. What < snip > is wrong with some of you?

You condone murder, you support it? Who cares if he was crucified by the media? Zimmerman deserves to rot in jail, but now it seems that something far worse will happen to him.

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Why do people keep saying this? People just keep conveniently forgetting the very real FACT that Trayvon was on top of George Zimmerman beating him. Trayvon caused his own death.

I'm just looking on in astonishment about how people just can't grasp that. This isn't a miscarriage of justice. This wasn't proof of an 'injustice system' as some protester just said on Fox. This is proof that the system works.

You can legally kill someone so long as they touch you first, and you feel your life is threatened.

You're misrepresenting what happened to try to make it seem worse. Zimmerman was yelling for help, getting beaten for over half a minute (which is an eternity when you're on the receiving end of a fight) with no end in sight. The fact that he didn't shoot sooner should be considered proof that he didn't want to kill Trayvon.

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I agree, that is why I had the feeling that if Zimmerman was found guilty the defense would have call it a mistrial. But I could be wrong now we will never know.

I'm trying to make sense of why there is a division of opinion on this case. Oh, I know there is, there always has been, but now the case is over.

Is it that the people who object to the verdict are saying "A kid's been killed by someone who was trying to kill him, so the shooter should pay. It's only just?"

While the people who are agreeing with the verdict are saying "We have laws which specifically describe what a person has to do to be found guilty. The prosecution didn't prove that he did those things, so it's only right he was not convicted."

Could it be that the two sets of posters are talking past each other because they have different ideas of what's "right?"

Since this was a trial governed by the laws of Florida, isn't that how the outcome should be judged?

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Hey I live real close to the court house after the verdict was read I loaded a couple rifle and have them close just in case something unruly comes down the street.


Better safe than sorry.

Originally posted by AlexG141989
Why do people keep saying this? People just keep conveniently forgetting the very real FACT that Trayvon was on top of George Zimmerman beating him.

...in a desperate last ditch efford trying to disarm the gun toting stalker that follows people in an area known for burglaries. There, fixed it

reply to post by Grimpachi


Thanks for the clarification, I wasn't sure if the wrongful death would have been an option, after all that is how they got OJ for all he had in California.

It seems the prosecution asked too much and this ultimately cost them.

If they went for third degree murder, wanting to cause harm but not necessarily kill, then they would have had a much better chance.

Almost like voluntary manslaughter. In fact what is the difference between third degree murder and voluntary manslaughter? "heat of passion" is just one example of wanting to hurt someone(but not necessarly kill them) with no premeditation.

Second degree requires wanting to kill someone with malice.

Piers Morgan is a douche bag "I respect the ruling,BUT"

I doubt there will be too much going on after this,now when some freak kills Zimmerman I think your going to see the !@#$ hit the fan and then some.

How does that old saying go?

'The operation was a success, but the patient died...'

peace

i just had to turn it to hln, and i got to tell that i'm just ashamed that such a network exists in this country.
the whole time the trial was going on, they were all jubilent and laughing carrying on putting on their own little reenactment and their side. laughing and cutting up.

now they are all stunned, all coming on with long face saying that this is wrong. just can't believe that the verdict was not guilty. if this doesn't show their PREDIGEST, i don't know what does.

and earlier, i saw that women lawyer that work with the martins, she was about to cry talking in the interview with TM family.

but for the past two weeks she has been on CNN HLN just a smilin and all happy that the trial to hear her say was going jst right and GZ was going to jail.

This Is Just Plain Sad, A Network this bias , that doesn't even try to hide the fact of their bias is allowed to peddle such tripe.

well i guess all the msm are that way to a point, but HLN just takes the cake.

Originally posted by marg6043
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I agree, but remember how politicized this case was thanks to the media circus and our own President, so sadly every where Mr. Zimmerman goes he will have to face the fact that he will be recognized.

Is still the wrongful death law sue that the family of Treyvon can file against him, he still can be held accountable, now please if I am wrong somebody can explain better if wrongful death will apply in this case or not.

Martins parents already settled out with the Apartment complexes home owners association for a MILLION dollars.. They sure did not turn that down.. I don't see how the could be so greedy and ask for EVEN MORE money over their son being the cause of this whole incident...

reply to post by TKDRL


We are seeing first hand the evolution of the Make My Day laws.

People are getting a good idea how to legally kill people. It is an easy target for some.

There was a case a few months ago about a girl who walked into a guys house. She was gathering items. The guy comes into the room and just shoots her while she is holding all of this stuff. The guy completely got away with it. When people see things like that on the news they start to get ideas.

It is one thing to protect yourself. It is an Entirely Different Animal to exploit laws to your benefit.

Boy I sure hope the Anti-Gun people don't use this to justify their position.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
It seems the prosecution asked too much and this ultimately cost them.

If they went for third degree murder, wanting to cause harm but not necessarily kill, then they would have had a much better chance.

Almost like voluntary manslaughter. In fact what is the difference between third degree murder and voluntary manslaughter? "heat of passion" is just one example of wanting to hurt someone(but not necessarly kill them) with no premeditation.

Second degree requires wanting to kill someone with malice.

There is no proof Zimmerman wanted to hurt Martin whatsoever. In fact, the evidence seems to indicate the opposite. You don't call the police and report someone that you plan to assault (or worse, murder), and then go and commit the act. It's obvious Zimmerman had no intention of attacking Martin to everyone with a bit of objectivity.

I really wish people would stop saying, "So I guess you're allow to go follow someone and then shoot them if things get out of hand in america."

That is not what happened.

Zimmerman was a NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH man in a neighborhood with a slew of recent break-ins.

There is a difference, thank you.

AAC

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Also meant for LadyGreenEyes:
If I uphold the letter of the law and trample the spirit of justice, eventually there will be neither justice nor mercy for me from an all-powerful law.

reply to post by starfoxxx


I completely forgot about that, I remember now that it was some kind of settlement for the death, I hope Zimmerman be able to repay his family back.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Oh, brother! Now Geraldo is on, describing Martin as someone who, "just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time." Then he tries to say politics shouldn't be mixed into these cases? Wow.....

He is trying to play this off as some tragic accident, instead of a case of self defense when criminally assaulted.

Geraldo's reserve of common sense and intelligence is as empty as Al Capone's vault.

At least the man has remained consistent over the years.

To be fair, he did condemn some of the political involvement, including from the top. Mostly, he seems to be doing what he's always done; and pointing out things on both sides, to keep things stirred up. Now he's got some weepy woman acting like self defense isn't self defense.

Overall, yeah, he hasn't changed.

Now, NO surprise Judge Jeanine (and isn't it scary she was a JUDGE????) is attacking the Stand your Ground law. So, watch out, folks; they want to take away your right to self defense. The weepy woman is claiming her son was killed "for no reason", and yet gives NO details on the case. Son was in a fight, choked, and apparently died, but she doesn't say who started what, or what he did. Another, "Boo hoo; my family member was innocent." routine!