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Originally posted by introV
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
Neither is locking them in a cage waiting to be euthanized.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I just read a few pages of this thread and realised we are doomed.
For so many reasons and dynamics that most won't understand for failing to see the bigger picture, we are, as a species, doomed to be divided for a long, long time.
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
So what are we going to do about it? Should we make a few threads discussing how pet ownership isn't "natural"?Should we discuss the merits, benefits, and risks associated with that behavior and the judge another person on whether or not these actions are harmful?
Nah. Like I said, none of us are entitled to call another's actions unnatural when we cannot even define the term.
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX
So, yes, for a lot of people, I believe its a choice.
Al you have proven with your rant is that taking a label is a choice, and even when someone takes that label, they can't force the sexual orientation on themselves without a strong effort. It can happen though, because I have known quite a few people that have been in marriages that have left their partners for people of the same sex.
Originally posted by introV
Um.
You can make threads or do what you want. I'm not discussing the meritis, benefits, or risks associated with anything. I am not judging anything. I am not telling people what they should or shouldn't do. Please tell me where I did that. Again..
All I ever said in this thread, or implied, before you derailed my point; was that you cannot use animals as evidence that homosexuality is natural in humans, as they do many things humans don't consider natural.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I just read a few pages of this thread and realised we are doomed.
For so many reasons and dynamics that most won't understand for failing to see the bigger picture, we are, as a species, doomed to be divided for a long, long time.
Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX
So, yes, for a lot of people, I believe its a choice.
Al you have proven with your rant is that taking a label is a choice, and even when someone takes that label, they can't force the sexual orientation on themselves without a strong effort. It can happen though, because I have known quite a few people that have been in marriages that have left their partners for people of the same sex.
"Al"-righty then. You're not really disproving me there.
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I just read a few pages of this thread and realised we are doomed.
For so many reasons and dynamics that most won't understand for failing to see the bigger picture, we are, as a species, doomed to be divided for a long, long time.
Not me, I see hope.
Regardless of the opinions shared in this thread, no one has threatened anyone. This shows an underlying respect, either a respect for law, for humans in general, or a respect for the fear of being banned from the site. From this respect comes dialogue, and that dialogue is what will continue to push us past this moment in history when ignorance, on both sides, makes way for understanding.
We -will- understand the reason for sexual orientation one day just like we figured out the reason for different skin colors. When that happens, opinion behind such differences will vanish, though as we see with racism still, the differences may continue to cause friction for some time.
Be patient.
Originally posted by introV
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
I'm not here to give my opinion of the matter. I've hinted that I am tolerate of homosexuals.
You are very hostile, calm down.
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by introV
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
I'm not here to give my opinion of the matter. I've hinted that I am tolerate of homosexuals.
You are very hostile, calm down.
Big deal. You've hinted that you are tolerant of homosexuals. I don't know what that even means.
If you aren't here to give your opinion on the nature of Homosexuality being Natural, which is the topic of this thread, then why exactly are you posting in it?
Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I just read a few pages of this thread and realised we are doomed.
For so many reasons and dynamics that most won't understand for failing to see the bigger picture, we are, as a species, doomed to be divided for a long, long time.
that is because many are divided by the misconceptions and propaganda that people are being told, instead of looking at as Humans
Natural, or Unnatural, what does it matter to you or anyone? if they came out tomorrow with inconclusive proof that we as homosexuals are more natural than straight people, what would happen? how would people react? would they began to denounce straight people as unnatural, and 'mental defects'
so you don't want to deal in hypothetical scenarios, that is fine girl we don't have too,
so we are 'Unnatural' so what does that mean? we should be treated as such? then as what? what would be the best way to treat us 'unnatural humans'?
it makes no sense why it's such a big deal,
we are Human you are human the longer we divide ourselves the faster we will all fall
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I just read a few pages of this thread and realised we are doomed.
For so many reasons and dynamics that most won't understand for failing to see the bigger picture, we are, as a species, doomed to be divided for a long, long time.
Not me, I see hope.
Regardless of the opinions shared in this thread, no one has threatened anyone. This shows an underlying respect, either a respect for law, for humans in general, or a respect for the fear of being banned from the site. From this respect comes dialogue, and that dialogue is what will continue to push us past this moment in history when ignorance, on both sides, makes way for understanding.
We -will- understand the reason for sexual orientation one day just like we figured out the reason for different skin colors. When that happens, opinion behind such differences will vanish, though as we see with racism still, the differences may continue to cause friction for some time.
Be patient.
It's not the issue in question, it is the division. We have been divided on so many things it is almost unbelievable.
Whilst we invest our energy in things that don't actually matter TPTB continue their drive for total control.
Originally posted by Djayed
reply to post by nerbot
Like it or not we are both US citizens...and we are equals. You beliefs have no bearing on my rights, since we are equals. Therefor when all right are equal you will stop feeling like it is "being shoved down your throat".
Originally posted by introV
This thread is not giving our opinions. This thread was evidence in support. I was refuting a piece of evidence. DENYING IGNORANCE. Do you comprehend? Do you even understand what the purpose of this thread is?edit on 29-6-2013 by introV because: (no reason given)