is walmart bending to custumers demands over m4 clones

for the first time since the sandy hook massecre my local walmart has a gun case with an colt ar 15 and 3 more m4 clones all with collapsible stocks and chambered for 223 remington. has walmart listened to customers

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The manager here just said she could not keep them in stock, people were buying them the second they were off the truck not that the stores were not ordering them.

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What state do you live in? I bet it isn't Connecticut. Are you sure they are .223, or are they .22?

Walmart never pulled them from the shelves according to their PR people. They just sold out quickly and for a long time.

Each Walmart can decide for itself what to stock hence the various firearms that may or may not be stocked at your local store.

Well, it's about time these started reappearing. Walmart would be stone cold crazy to sell firearms and NOT sell those ones on some misgotten notion of political correctness. They're the hottest selling items in American firearms, bar none and have been for months upon months. I'd call this good business sense for a business to follow.

As a bonus, the fact even Walmart level stores are seeing them again for any length of time means the market must be easing a bit.

Now where is the guy with proof of a new purchase order for a million AR- Rifles to the USDA or BLM or some other crazy agency that doesn't need firepower but will order truck loads of it anyway. I'm just waiting.... TPTB didn't see this headline yet.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, it's about time these started reappearing. Walmart would be stone cold crazy to sell firearms and NOT sell those ones on some misgotten notion of political correctness. They're the hottest selling items in American firearms, bar none and have been for months upon months. I'd call this good business sense for a business to follow.

As a bonus, the fact even Walmart level stores are seeing them again for any length of time means the market must be easing a bit.

Now where is the guy with proof of a new purchase order for a million AR- Rifles to the USDA or BLM or some other crazy agency that doesn't need firepower but will order truck loads of it anyway. I'm just waiting.... TPTB didn't see this headline yet.

I can see it now.

Dept. of Education orders 1000s of ARs and millions of rounds of ammo.

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It just amazes me Americans can buy machine guns at the super-market.

Originally posted by EA006
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It just amazes me Americans can buy machine guns at the super-market.

walmart ARs =/= machineguns

they are not even sub machine

I feel as though I should not even have to say that...

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Well, I hate to break your amazement....but it's not a Machine Gun. It's a semi-auto with absolutely no difference in function to an 10/22 Ruger .22 Caliber Rifle. In fact, the bullet is even the same size. The .223 is just a hair longer and on super-steroids for the powder charge (literally....they measure on a micrometer as a trivia note).

Machine Guns are Class III weapons which Americans can also buy but require the mother of all permit processes to get permission on and then the ATF can bum rush your door to inspect your home and storage any time they feel like it (Like they do anyway...but legally for Class III people)

The one at Walmart is also affordable to plink beer cans with....while the real Machine Gun on a Class III permit will run $3,000 for junk to as much as $25,000 for a genuine 1960's issue M-16 Service Rifle.

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I really don't care TBH. Call it what you like.....

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Why bring it up then? I mean if you have no idea what the terms mean and how radically different a civilian rifle is from a machine gun, despite the cosmetic effort at making them look the same.....where is the basis for complaint or outrage? It seems that knowing the basics of a subject is pretty important to taking serious issue with it.

I normally don't register on terms just tossed around without concern for meaning ...but the critical difference in the use of THAT specific term has let to actual laws and regulation out of PURE misunderstanding and lack of personal knowledge of firearms ...so it's actually a very important one. Critically important.

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So yeah.....It was a general point and i wasn't expecting it to be taken apart.

Man.. what's really been happening is they have been bought the second they hit the shelves. The walmarts here looked empty too but we asked and the guy at the gun desk said people would find out when the trucks came and wait. Now that prices are falling down and the scare has died down the guns are actually making it all the way to the cabinets.

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Well, as a final note, I'll just say my first note was helpful as much as critical by explaining the fact Machine guns CAN actually be bought by average people...which you'd be shocked by how many Americans do not know and/or don't believe can be done. If we were in England where the very thought of someone buying a full automatic M-60 Heavy Machine Gun with ammo boxes is about as likely as Harry Potter flying in for lunch ......the terms have distinction without difference.

Here? Where both can be bought....It's a world of it..which I thought it helpful to explain.

On the second note? Well... Okay, if you'd missed the fact the OP's whole story stems from the radical market shortages from the gun control debate raging at all levels of American Society and with all levels of vicious ugliness...I guess that's a big oops on current events. You happened..of ALL the arguments to use...choose the one MOST likely to grab the attention of one of our 100 million gun owners for a HUGE mistake in practical and literal terms.

Sorry to hop....but it's a very hostile world at the moment for a firearms collector, such as myself. Defining terms DOES define debate at times..and this one is purely defined by it. (Hops off to find other topics)

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Walmart would sell aborted zebra fetuses if it were in demand.

Originally posted by EA006
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So yeah.....It was a general point and i wasn't expecting it to be taken apart.

Unfortunately that's what happens here.

There are certain things about American culture that just don't make sense to the rest of the world.

Any questioning of it leaves you open to attack, and when that happens it's usually a gang of people who then go into the whole "constitutional right" thing (ignoring all the other constitutional rights now destroyed) and how they'd never be able to "overthrow" their massively armed government with their pea shooters, as if that would even be possible. They'll also bring up how the violent gun crime rates have risen in Australia since they banned guns, despite their own national statistics proving this to be wrong and showing that gun crime HAS FALLEN. Then they'll go on about how the UK is worse off because we can't buy automatic assault rifles at the local Sainsbury's.

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by EA006
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So yeah.....It was a general point and i wasn't expecting it to be taken apart.

Unfortunately that's what happens here.

There are certain things about American culture that just don't make sense to the rest of the world.

Any questioning of it leaves you open to attack, and when that happens it's usually a gang of people who then go into the whole "constitutional right" thing (ignoring all the other constitutional rights now destroyed) and how they'd never be able to "overthrow" their massively armed government with their pea shooters, as if that would even be possible. They'll also bring up how the violent gun crime rates have risen in Australia since they banned guns, despite their own national statistics proving this to be wrong and showing that gun crime HAS FALLEN. Then they'll go on about how the UK is worse off because we can't buy automatic assault rifles at the local Sainsbury's.

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Some of us are in the middle, though. Just remember, the stereo type you talk about are naturally more belligerent therefore you hear them the loudest.

Most Americans I know are for protecting the rights to own guns but are also supportive of increased gun registration laws and to change the process of purchase.

I will defend gun ownership all day but I would also vote to make a person go through much more extensive tests and screenings in order to own them. My sentiments are not exactly rare for Americans. It's just not extreme so we don't get heard as much.

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Yeah...it's just the damndest thing how some of us silly Americans get about sick and tired of people who don't know our country, culture, laws, Government or traditions figure they know enough to slam, poke and otherwise run down that very same nation as if it's become a world sporting event and someone out there is assigning points.

I have no clue why some Americans have just about had their fill of tolerating it as if to say we love being figurative punching bags. I know it's my favorite thing to look forward to. :shk:

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It just looks from the outside, like trying to take smack off an addict.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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Yeah...it's just the damndest thing how some of us silly Americans get about sick and tired of people who don't know our country, culture, laws, Government or traditions figure they know enough to slam, poke and otherwise run down that very same nation as if it's become a world sporting event and someone out there is assigning points.

I have no clue why some Americans have just about had their fill of tolerating it as if to say we love being figurative punching bags. I know it's my favorite thing to look forward to. :shk:

Wrabbit;

You know exactly how the conversation you are taking part in is going to go. Both of us do.

You have provided some excellent information though, on a topic where most people with no knowledge of the subject matter talk as if they are experts. Well, I suppose that is most topics, but the point still stands, lol.

So, you can use your time to have a conversation which you have likely had hundreds of times before, or go to the range and plink some targets. I know what Im doin!