I Converted A Catholic To Atheism

Nvm

reply to post by Madrusa

Well the fact is the world at the present time needs lots of Atheists, the more the better, and it wouldn't do for me to be making one less to go around, or worst case scenario that converted one blabbing and tipping the rest off, they have a sacred Mission.

And that would be......
wait!

wait...Don't tell me.
Let me guess....

TO BRING ON ARMAGEDDON????

Jeezy Kreezy that thinking is INSANE. You're living in a fantasy land that has nothing, zip, naught, nada, ZERO to do with reality. Pathetic. The REALLY scary thing is that I bet lots of the 'apocalypse prayerful people' have GUNS. News flash, so do LOTS OF NON-RELIGIOUS people. So don't come a knockin' - unless you're looking for the express lane to see your Man.

Do the 'rapture freaks' really, really, REALLY imagine they will simply disappear into the ether? After the clouds open, the trumpets blare, and JC looking like in his eurocentric portraits in his clean robes? It's ridiculous.
It's like first grade thinking. Same as Santa coming down the chimblee - Mommy, let's put milk and cookies and a carrot for Rudolph on the table!!

reply to post by AfterInfinity

"one sided influence"?

Yes! YOUR influence was, indeed, "one sided". You only offered him "salvation", in return for a belief in YOUR dogma.

The Catholic church has owned him longer than I have even known he existed.

So what? Now he is "owned" by YOUR dogma. There, really, isn't much difference.

He has more reasons to condemn me than he does to listen to me.

Yeah! I reckon those "reasons" flew out of the window, when you started telling him what he WANTED to hear. Go figure...

Are you drunk or what?

That asinine question only indicates an extreme lack of character, on your part.

I'm done arguing and justifying and defending.

You have definitely argued, and you may have defended, but you, MOST CERTAINLY, have NOT justified ANYTHING.

If you have questions for either of us, the addressed user will respond if inclined to do so.

Many of us, already, know that you are NOT "inclined" to answer questions. I have asked you several pertinent questions, and all you have offered are insinuations, and insults.

I made this thread for a friend, who has already said his piece.

No you didn't! You only created this thread to brag about converting someone to atheism.

If you only have accusations and allegations, then don't expect any more replies.

If you have snide comments and allegations, shove it.

Are you talking about "accusations", "allegations", and "snide comments" such as these:

Are you here to be obstructive or instructive?

I do prefer constructive posts over hit-and-runs though.

So unoriginal. Do find a new sales pitch, this one is getting a tad bit rusty.

Take a few science classes. That will do for a fine start to your education regarding the physical laws of the universe. I suspect you may find your questions are answered along the way.

Here, now you don't have any more false excuses

Cheap shot from a cheap skeptic.

There are moments when people seem less concerned with having an instructive conversation and more concerned with trying to get someone's goat. You wouldn't be the first in this thread to make a grab for the latter.

...Right. M'kay. Whatever.

Are you drunk or what?

You have been FAR MORE hostile than I have been!

See ya,
Milt

Originally posted by wildtimes
Do the 'rapture freaks' really, really, REALLY imagine they will simply disappear into the ether? After the clouds open, the trumpets blare, and JC looking like in his eurocentric portraits in his clean robes? It's ridiculous.
It's like first grade thinking. Same as Santa coming down the chimblee - Mommy, let's put milk and cookies and a carrot for Rudolph on the table!!

Such viciousness...

Why is that necessary?

reply to post by BenReclused


I don't know where he gets his thoughts from and who AI is in fact dubbing..

Let's just wish him the best

reply to post by Serdgiam

Yes, I know I said earlier it's nobody's business what ADULTS believe, but it IS EVERYONE'S BUSINESS what kids are being told!!!!

It's necessary because asking people nicely to STOP INDOCTRINATING OTHERS with this hocus-pocus stuff and false hope and imposed shame isn't working. Heard of Jesus Camp? Unconscionable. Instilling your kids with the fear of the horror of "hell" because they are WORTHLESS SINNERS is abuse.

Here's one more video for you - watch it at your leisure.
I won't be back on this thread to make a commentary. Take it for what it's worth. Or leave it.

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Serdgiam

 

It's necessary because asking people nicely to STOP INDOCTRINATING OTHERS with this hocus-pocus stuff and false hope and imposed shame isn't working.

I never implied that "asking nicely" was the way to do much of anything. Its about as effective as verbally attacking someone on a topic that neither side has anything more than a slight glimmer of understanding or knowledge.

Of course, indoctrination is not just relegated to that which you disagree with. The same could be said for any like-minded people including those who are "anti hocus-pocus."

reply to post by Serdgiam


Maybe because the rapture freaks really want it to happen and will do anything to help it happen and drag the rest of us down with them.
Maybe it is time for non religious folk to get angry and say "enough is enough" Religion has had it's chance and look how well we have done with it.

reply to post by boymonkey74


Now you start to hate the ones who've you lived on the backs for so long. Talking about a receiving a knife in the back..

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by Serdgiam

 

Maybe because the rapture freaks really want it to happen and will do anything to help it happen and drag the rest of us down with them.
Maybe it is time for non religious folk to get angry and say "enough is enough" Religion has had it's chance and look how well we have done with it.

edit on 19-6-2013 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)

I have no doubt pretty much every atheist, or those like-minded, will agree with this.

My only question is; "Is it actually about changing the world for the better, or a shift of power that will inevitably continue down the same path but under different auspices?"

reply to post by boymonkey74
I fear people who wish to "hurry along" the supposed Rapture (which isn't called Rapture in the Bible and the allusion to such an event is only briefly mentioned) as much as I fear scientists who develop biological weapons just because they can. Anyone who is that eager for any sort of Armageddon type scenario and is willing to help it occur, whether for religious reasons or out of scientific curiosity, are dangerous people.

reply to post by Serdgiam


Please watch the video.
Welcome to this World.

reply to post by wildtimes



No your guess was wrong.

reply to post by Madrusa


Then feel free to be less vague and state your case.

reply to post by littled16


I agree but just read this thread, I have been called the devils apprentice why because I made a typo....and these people can vote!!.

Oh and Angle your hate for women and anyone who is different goes against all the good religion can teach.
Just to point out also Iam not an atheist, but I will follow no man made version of the truth, because man will only ever find out the truth when we die.

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Serdgiam

 

Please watch the video.
Welcome to this World.

I watched it.

It seems that many would rather blame the "means" instead of addressing the "goal."

The "means" of achieving that goal will continue to change until we start to consciously pursue another path.

It seems you may have already made your choice. "Welcome to this World," indeed.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by littled16

 

I agree but just read this thread, I have been called the devils apprentice why because I made a typo....and these people can vote!!.

Be true, if this typo makes people see you as the devils apprentice.. pitty typo man..

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by littled16

 

Oh and Angle your hate for women and anyone who is different goes against all the good religion can teach.
Just to point out also Iam not an atheist, but I will follow no man made version of the truth, because man will only ever find out the truth when we die.

Hm, I can't figure out what you're trying to make clear with that last alinea.

reply to post by Angle


Really? you can't understand it? I never pray but tonight I will pray that you can never vote.
Iam starting to think you have more than one account in this thread.

reply to post by boymonkey74
If it's any consolation I am a Christian and I KNOW you are not the Devil's apprentice love! I think trying to shove any religion- Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc.....even Atheism- is infringing on other's right to make up their own minds. Jesus didn't follow people around trying to force his ideals on others......he said what he had to say and left people to think about it and come to their own conclusions and gave further instruction on request.

reply to post by Serdgiam

It seems that many would rather blame the "means" instead of addressing the "goal."

The "means" of achieving that goal will continue to change until we start to consciously pursue another path.

It seems you may have already made your choice. "Welcome to this World," indeed.

I am not going to make a commentary on the video, as I said, but I will respond to assumptions and allegations.

What is it that I 'seem' to have already chosen? Truth? Evidence on the planet of the bloodshed and deprivation of billions? Finding a way to fix it NOW rather than waiting for some posthumous relief?

The path we need to pursue is PEACE.