Report: Homeschooling Growing Seven Times Faster than Public School Enrollment

reply to post by TDawgRex


I found this. From 2009 ACT score comparisons. Values are Home School, Public School, Private School

Math: 24.6, 24.7, 25.0
English: 27.8, 24.5, 25.8
Reading: 28.2, 25.6, 26.5
Science: 25.0, 24.5, 24.4
Composite: 26.5, 25.0, 25.6
www.airum.org...

I'm not sure that a difference of 1.5 constitutes a "significantly higher score". A composite of 26.5 would be in the 84th percentile and 25 is in the 79th.

The English and reading scores for home schooling do push the composite up but math and science don't seem to be particularly impressive. That would seem to make sense.

Here's an earlier study I found.

The academic performance analyses indicate that home school graduates are as ready for college as traditional high school graduates and that they perform as well on national college assessment tests as traditional high school graduates.

inpathways.net...

reply to post by TDawgRex

Here's another.

This analysis has been interpreted to mean that homeschooled students compared favorably to their traditionally educated peers, but a possible area of concern was the mathematics preparation these students received prior to matriculating in college. This finding along with the theme of social preparation should be of particular interest to homeschooled students, their parents, and colleges that will enroll home-schooled matriculates.

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Backs up that other one I showed showing math ACT scores a bit on the low end for homeschooled.

reply to post by Phage


Mathematics I can see as a failing science when it comes to home schooling, unless you have a extraordinairy parent. But that can be said about all home schooling.

If I had a kid, I would send him/her to a private school, even if it broke me. They just have better track records overall. Our children are our future, you don't coddle them...you push them. Just my opinion.

And I have raised children, even though they weren't mine.

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Well this will finish off the USA as a superpower. You're going to get more and more badly-educated kids realising that being homeschooled has left them pathetically unable to compete in the real world that lies outside their parents misconceptions.

Are you in a teachers union? or do you work for the dept of education? The FACTS do not bear out your statement. The FACTS show just the opposite. Home-schooled kids are generally much better educated than their institutionalized brethren. Keep up your talking points though. If you lie often enough and big enough, maybe the sheeple will continue to believe you.

Actually my wife is a teacher and I know exactly how much work she does to educate her kids. And I've met some homeschooled people. Their parents were religious morons who didn't have a clue when it came to science, evolution and even maths. Guess what? They hated their parents because they couldn't get decent jobs!

The public school system is a joke.If I had kids it would be private or home schooling before I sent them into that jungle.Hell even the 12 y/o's are armed now.That's not education as much as boot camp.

Originally posted by TDawg61
The public school system is a joke.If I had kids it would be private or home schooling before I sent my kids into that jungle.Hell even the 12 y/o's are armed now.That's not education as much as boot camp.

Well, from one TDawg to another, I wouldn't compare public schools to a boot camp. Discipline is at least taught there.

I would compare many public schools to a prison system instead.

So basically we have a bunch of homophobic, racist, parents wanting to home school their children, because public schools teach tolerance. What a crock of crap this is. I have dealt with "home schooled" kids, hired him for my business because I knew his dad, this teen was dumber than a box of rocks. Seriously, if you are honestly home schooling your child, they need to be able to spell, write, and add, unfortunately this is not my experience.

I find that it is fundie christians behind the HS movement, this is the most ignorant bunch of people I have ever met, they have not learned anything through their own lives, yet they are going to teach their children. Honestly, I believe their children should be taken from them.

Originally posted by TDawgRex

Originally posted by TDawg61
The public school system is a joke.If I had kids it would be private or home schooling before I sent my kids into that jungle.Hell even the 12 y/o's are armed now.That's not education as much as boot camp.

Well, from one TDawg to another, I wouldn't compare public schools to a boot camp. Discipline is at least taught there.

I would compare many public schools to a prison system instead.

Agreed bro.But aren't both regimented though?School massacres are almost turning into a trend!

Originally posted by TDawg61
Agreed bro.But aren't both regimented though?School massacres are almost turning into a trend!

edit on 8-6-2013 by TDawg61 because: (no reason given)

But in boot camp, massacres are not taught. They are both systems of schooled violence.

But one is taught (with discipline) and the other is learnt (without discipline)

There is a difference.

Been there, done that.

reply to post by BubbaJoe


That is amusing. I find that the most tolerent of kids to be the most disdainful and intolerent of others beliefs,

You might want to look into the mirror.

Homeschooling is a great thing
glad it is growing so fast.

Homeschooling Growing Seven Times Faster than Public School Enrollment

Should we think about this for a moment? If you start with a low number and increase it a bit you get a large percentage increase. If you start with a high number and increase it the same amount, you get a much lower percentage. If you increase a large enough number by a great amount, you can still get a relatively low percentage.

The "report" says that 4% of children are homeschooled. In 2012 there were 55.5 million kids enrolled in public schools. So that means something like 2.2 million kids being homeschooled. It says that number has increased by 75% since 1999. Assuming that the figures provided about homeschooling are accurate, that tells us that in 1999 there were about 1.3 million kids being homeschooled. In 1999 there were 49.3 million kids in public schools.

So what do we get? Not including private school enrollment the numbers show this:
Between 1999 and 2012 public school enrollment increased by 13%. So that "seven times" is a bit off. The actual number is 5.7.

Between 1999 and 2012 the number of homeschooled kids increased by 0.9 million while over the same period of time public school enrollment increased by 6.2 million. In that period of time the increase in the number of kids enrolled in public schools was 7 times the increase in homeschooling.

Homeschooling is increasing. But are people flocking to it instead of public school? It doesn't seem so. Maybe the hyperbole will change that. And, for the record, I don't really have anything against homeschooling.


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reply to post by signalfire


Thank you for this!

My husband and I are discussing things. It's not going to happen this year...but we are going to find out exactly what is required from the state. Then we have to see if there's enough local interest....I live in a small town and it's not wealthy. Still, there are folks who might be interested.

I absolutely will NOT be involved in religion. I doubt the majority of folks hereabouts would like my personal theology...this is the Bible Belt, after all.

reply to post by marg6043


Only for them to be influenced later in life without the experience needed to ensure they prevail.

I am assuming this only refers to primary education, not high school. I doubt that most parents are qualified enough to teach the difficult high school subjects (such as specialist mathematics).

As much as I like the idea, I can't help but thinking about the people I used to live next to. The were very ultra-Christian and had twin girls close to mine and my sister's ages. They were homeschooled and religion was pounded into them from an early age until their mom got fed up and divorced the dad.

Now I'm not saying everyone who is home-schooled will turn out to be braindead ultra-Christians. I just fear the ones who do because these are one group of people we are dealing with today and I fear their influence on our already compromised society.

reply to post by SpeachM1litant

Since they discuss ACT scores in the article it would seem to be that they are including high school.

Originally posted by Elliot
reply to post by flexy123

 

Did you know that Albert Einstein never went to school and neither did many great explorers and adventurers?

I hope you didn't teach your home-school kids that nonsense!

At the age of eight, he was transferred to the Luitpold Gymnasium (now known as the Albert Einstein Gymnasium) where he received advanced primary and secondary school education until he left Germany seven years later.

I went to school in Germany like he did, I also went to a "Gymnasium". A Gymnasium is sort of an Elite school where you eg. learn Latin, Ancient Greek etc,. amongst many other things which has an *extremely* high education standard. I don't even think there is an equivalent for it in the States. And he went there for 7 years until he was 16, which is about what I did as well. Rest assured, they probably pounded him, barely 8 or 9 years old, with Latin, Algebra, Ancient History etc. for years, even worse than today since back in those times those schools were even more strict/tough than today.

And, after that:

In 1895, at the age of sixteen, Einstein sat the entrance examinations for the Swiss Federal Polytechnic in Zurich (later the Eidgenössische Polytechnische Schule). He failed to reach the required standard in several subjects, but obtained exceptional grades in physics and mathematics. On the advice of the Principal of the Polytechnic, he attended the Aargau Cantonal School in Aarau, Switzerland, in 1895–96 to complete his secondary schooling.

reply to post by DarthMuerte


As a teacher I can tell that I often do try to forego mention of social issues but those darn kids, you know, they keep bringing them up.

I am 100% for home schooling, I home school my daughters, and I also did for the last few years with my sons, due to a piece of paper having some kind of importance, my son decided to take a trade so I homeschool him (he was considered disable from the age of 4) after homeschooling his I.Q went up drastically and he no longer qualified for disability.

I sent him to Job Corps, he took his G.E.D got it on the first try, and is currently getting his certificate in culinary arts. Most parents that I talk to are worried about a degree, so I suggest they look at all options when they feel that their children are done with schooling, for some parents it may be longer than others.

At this point my 15 yr old can easily pass a G.E.D course and be done with it. She is choosing now to do research before going to get her's, such as money managment, and basic business managment.

Peace, NRE.

reply to post by Phage


Maybe the persons doing the math went to and graduated from public schools and as a result came up with , according to you, incorrect numbers..